Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9

2015-07-26 Thread Prof Brucee
i was gonna suggest as per rob's post that chan.c was a good place to check for gcc introduced code. anyone actually going to diff the code or is it all going to be speculation? brucee On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 9:01 PM, st...@quintile.net st...@quintile.net wrote: if there was a way to run

Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9

2015-07-26 Thread Prof Brucee
I've never understood the fascination with gdb. To me it's just turgid. I like saying acid has always worked for me because it's a fun thing to say but not only is it painlessly useful it is programmable. stk and leak are pretty neat. brucee On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:52 AM, erik quanstrom

Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9

2015-07-26 Thread hiro
Who claimed fast compilation was a motive? From what I understand this is all about being able to use gdb for debugging. It makes sense to me, but it might still be subjective. If you care I will explain my experience: Some longer time ago I tried gdb for disassembling some secret binary, but

Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9

2015-07-26 Thread a . regenfuss
Hm, that looks interesting. I like what that they are trying to make plan 9 a bit more accessible by using familiar programs and closing the gap between modern unix and the plan 9 ideas. However, I think I'll rather keep vanilla plan 9 or 9front (rio is still better than X11, sorry). But

Re: [9fans] arm64 port?

2015-07-26 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
Maybe I am working on a port to X-Gene, or maybe I am not. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9

2015-07-26 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 26 July 2015 at 18:33, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: if fast compilation is a feature over plan 9, I'd like to see some numbers. That wasn't the point, I think. The mention of speed was rather that on fast enough hardware the speed with gcc isn't that bad, so you can use

Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9

2015-07-26 Thread erik quanstrom
just speaking for myself, I found the fact that plan 9 was a self contained thing to be a must have. i don't consider the gcc toolchain to be a feature. if "fast compilation" is a feature over plan 9, I'd like to see some numbers. - erik On Jul 25, 2015 3:15 PM, Axel Belinfante

Re: [9fans] Stick

2015-07-26 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On July 26, 2015 1:32:35 PM CDT, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.com wrote: To expensive for me, And, imo, device is useless - no wired network - no NORMAL external storage - iNtel inside :) As a terminal it is far more expensive then Rpi, as diskless cpu it useless too. Useless :) for me P.S.:

Re: [9fans] Stick

2015-07-26 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On July 26, 2015 2:48:33 PM CDT, Prof Brucee prof.bru...@gmail.com wrote: A bit harsh and head-up-the-arse-ish. I'm willing to play with this device. Harsh? I put a smiley face to make it obvious it was a joke... Enjoy your Mac. brucee On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:32 AM, Ryan Gonzalez

[9fans] iounit and msize

2015-07-26 Thread cinap_lenrek
why is devmnt using msize-IOHDRSZ to split up reads and writes instead of the iounit of the channel? mntrdwr(): ... nr = n; if(nr m-msize-IOHDRSZ) nr = m-msize-IOHDRSZ; r-request.count = nr; -- cinap

Re: [9fans] iounit and msize

2015-07-26 Thread Prof Brucee
This would appear to be in error. Rob, please? brucee On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:24 AM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: why is devmnt using msize-IOHDRSZ to split up reads and writes instead of the iounit of the channel? mntrdwr(): ... nr = n; if(nr

Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9

2015-07-26 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
You forgot about my favorite use of gdb: $ gdb --args a b c gdb run # wait for segfault gdb bt ... gdb quit On July 26, 2015 12:54:34 PM CDT, hiro 23h...@gmail.com wrote: Who claimed fast compilation was a motive? From what I understand this is all about being able to use gdb for debugging. It

Re: [9fans] Stick

2015-07-26 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
To expensive for me, And, imo, device is useless - no wired network - no NORMAL external storage - iNtel inside :) As a terminal it is far more expensive then Rpi, as diskless cpu it useless too. Useless :) for me P.S.: Yes my home mac uses Intel CPU, but it is Apple ! :) 2015-07-26 0:37

Re: [9fans] Harvey OS: A new OS inspired heavily by Plan 9

2015-07-26 Thread erik quanstrom
wrong list? ;-) On Jul 26, 2015 1:47 PM, hiro 23h...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to argue from a Linux point of view.