Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401

2019-02-16 Thread hiro
if you don't know if it's worth it why do you want to do it? try to do something that benefits you personally, so that there can be a more clear goal

Re: [9fans] microsoft's plan 9 distribution

2019-02-16 Thread hiro
> Thankfully, it's been a long time since I had to look under Linux's > hood. It is perfectly possible that Linux is more plan 9-ish than Plan > 9 ever was. > > Lucio. hardly. whatever namespace features they have come with huge cost, because nothing in linux is ever loosely coupled like our file

Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401

2019-02-16 Thread Lucio De Re
On 2/16/19, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > for completeness, AWS is also an option. there's is an old image that > Richard Miller created some time ago. Erik mentioned he hoped (was > planning?) to create an image with up-to-date drivers. > Now, Erik's track record is pretty much faultless, so I'd

Re: [9fans] microsoft's plan 9 distribution

2019-02-16 Thread Charles Forsyth
I thought I remembered the name Brian Perkins until I realised that was a Radio 4 newsreader. On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 08:54, Steve Simon wrote: > interesting... > > the first thing, can you convince the 9p server to offer 9p over tcp? > then, can explorer mount my plan9 file server? > > the

Re: [9fans] microsoft's plan 9 distribution

2019-02-16 Thread Charles Forsyth
well spotted On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 00:48, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2019/02/15/whats-new-for-wsl-in-windows-10-version-1903/ > >

Re: [9fans] microsoft's plan 9 distribution

2019-02-16 Thread Lucio De Re
On 2/16/19, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > what is a process-level namespace? you mean pid namespaces that linux has? > Thankfully, it's been a long time since I had to look under Linux's hood. It is perfectly possible that Linux is more plan 9-ish than Plan 9 ever was. Lucio.

Re: [9fans] microsoft's plan 9 distribution

2019-02-16 Thread Lucio De Re
Hell, I wish I could figure out what I want! I need to use Thunderbird as my mailer and that keeps reminding me how liberating it was some long time back when I was able to move from Mutt to Acme/Mail: the latter is so much less of a burden across so many aspects. But today I'd have to change job

Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401

2019-02-16 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
for completeness, AWS is also an option. there's is an old image that Richard Miller created some time ago. Erik mentioned he hoped (was planning?) to create an image with up-to-date drivers. On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 2:11 AM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > GCP would be an option. 9legacy has

Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401

2019-02-16 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
GCP would be an option. 9legacy has instructions and a ready image. On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 3:59 AM Kare Nuorteva wrote: > > Hello 9fans, > > I'm a Plan 9 enthusiast from Finland. I've been playing around with Plan 9 > as > a hobby for few years now. Earlier I've played with 9front, but now I'd

Re: [9fans] microsoft's plan 9 distribution

2019-02-16 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
from the description it sounds like Windows and WSL apps can only talk over AF_UNIX socket. if I understand your intent correctly, this might be what you're looking for: a while back Tim Newsham did ninefs; it uses npfs (ericvh and lionkov) and Dokan. i don't know if there has been any recent

Re: [9fans] microsoft's plan 9 distribution

2019-02-16 Thread hiro
> I wonder what the long-term plan really is, though? Process-level > namespaces? If they can do that, they will leave Linux standing. > > Lucio. > > what is a process-level namespace? you mean pid namespaces that linux has?

Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401

2019-02-16 Thread Lucio De Re
I've never failed to get Plan 9 running under VMware ESX (v 3.51). It takes remembering what adjustments I made the last time, or rediscovering them. I will be converting the ESX images to kqemu in the near future, see how that pans out. Lucio.

Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401

2019-02-16 Thread hiro
regardless of the hardware, before deciding on a host check a traceroute to some test-ip they should provide, to make sure it doesn't actually first go to germany and back or some other sillyness! i just picked the cheapest server i could find, but limited my search parameters to those that do

Re: [9fans] microsoft's plan 9 distribution

2019-02-16 Thread Lucio De Re
Closet 9 Fans, outed! Pity, really, because these may be reluctant to reveal how to access a remote 9P site. But exciting, nevertheless. The weird thing I don't quite get is that it looks like u9fs running under WX with an extX interface. Is that going to be the trend? What are the permissible

Re: [9fans] Fujitsu D3401

2019-02-16 Thread Steve Simon
plan9 has run under xen, kqmu and vmware in the past but i dont know its current status, but that might be an option. i run the labs distro with some bits of 9front on a raspberry pi and a supermicro mini itx server. -Steve > On 16 Feb 2019, at 3:28 am, Sean Hinchee wrote: > > It's hard

Re: [9fans] microsoft's plan 9 distribution

2019-02-16 Thread Steve Simon
interesting... the first thing, can you convince the 9p server to offer 9p over tcp? then, can explorer mount my plan9 file server? the biggest surprised is that i don't recognise any of the names of the team listed as 9fans of old. -Steve >> On 16 Feb 2019, at 3:57 am, Lucio De Re wrote: