On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:23 PM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
gcc -o drawterm main.o cpu.o readcons.o secstore.o latin1.o
That fails on OS X 10.6,
You need to add -m32 option to gcc for OXS 10.6.
Oh, boy, I'm just a newbie to OSX world.☺
Kenji
Depends actually. If you're on a
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote:
i believe that richard miller has the intel D945GCLF2
working via some careful hacking. (i.e. a hand-coded
mp table.)
It was easier to buy something that actually worked. As for that
Intel piece
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:12 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com
wrote:
what's the replacement for pxe?
Why not 9p?
BOOTP + 9p?
ron
i wonder if there's a complicated volume pricing thing going on where these
companies take orders, accumulating volume so they increase their margins
before they ship. I can't imagine why else they'd drag their feet on it
except that they want to get a good price as a reseller, and don't want to
libdispatch is in FreeBSD now, and people are using it to write concurrent C
code. I think they even have blocks, and the clang compiler front end
working too. I believe the earliest, least-experimental branch of code is
FreeBSD-STABLE for the 8 series, but I'll double check.
Dave
On Thu, Dec
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:48 AM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/11/30 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
i used unfold (/n/sources/contrib/quanstro/runetype/unfold.c.
% 8c -I ../grepfold unfold.c
unfold.c:5 8c: 'utfunfold.h' file does not exist: utfunfold.h
% du -a
I think they might just be with their families as it's a national holiday
here in the USA. :-)
Might not hear from them again till Monday.
Dave
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Latchesar Ionkov lu...@ionkov.net wrote:
I did four days ago. No comments yet. I am sure the go team is pretty
For those of us who didn't see TVX, what's TVX? :-)
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:06 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
And, if your hardware won't work, i really strongly recommend you look at
9vx.
http://swtch.com/9vx/
Those of you who say TVX at IWP9 last month: on a recent trip to
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote:
I'll put up a youtube movie in the next while, but there is a video of
iwp9 I think on the subject.
And for those of us using
Awesome! Thanks Geoff!
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:37 PM, ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
If you run replica/pull (or have done so recently), you'll find a new
kernel subtree, /sys/src/9/kw, which contains a basic port of Plan 9
to the Sheevaplug, derived from the port of native Inferno.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote:
Hi,
I'm new to plan9 from user space. I've started using rc shell for
scripts and, for daily use, I would like to solve a problem.
I see that rc isn't built with readline or similar. So, do you use
some alternative? Or
I'd love to have this anywhere, including plan 9!
I was just reading over the ideas this morning, and quite frankly, I'm
excited!
I've been writing concurrent code in a multi-paradigm system including
approaches from Haskell, Erlang, and C at my day job, so I've got my head
down in a lot of this
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:56 PM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
have you also seen this vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKnDgT73v8s
It's amazing. I have the source right now!
issue9 would be a funny name for a programming language.
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:04 PM, andrey mirtchovski
mirtchov...@gmail.comwrote:
i was perusing the Go Nuts mailing list briefly, boy that makes 9fans
ca. 2000 look like a sensible and clever list ;)
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:54 PM,
You're a sick man! That's awesome.
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote:
I'd like to announce ninefs for win32. This is a Dokan
based 9p filesystem driver for win32 systems built with
npfs. This is an early release intended for the bolder
user. I've set up a
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:03 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
Some people find the idea of writing their own kernel code scary.
To those who don't I imagine d-trace has less appeal.
sure thing. plan 9, by being simple, makes the kernel
a much less scary place to be.
by the
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Wes Kussmaul w...@authentrus.com wrote:
ron minnich wrote:
How is it that companies that want you to buy their IT expertise
outsource their own? It makes no sense.
Equally true story. We used to run our own servers. A (name withheld)
sysadmin always felt
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:33 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
I mean, say your company has 25 satellite offices... why should they all
have to do redundant work to update all the systems across the board.
Isn't
the repetition going to cause a higher chance of someone missing
on the contrary... I have always equated the plan 9 crowd as the
most punkrock of the alternative OS crowd.
On 10/23/09, W B Hacker w...@conducive.org wrote:
erik quanstrom wrote:
On Thu Oct 22 22:54:41 EDT 2009, eri...@gmail.com wrote:
Everyone is busy drinking and debating protocol
fairly certain that a disproportionately large number of 9fans
aren't CS grads.
As with Un*x, it's the people who recognise the power and simplicity who
are the fans,
not the academic dogmatists and fashionistas.
D
On 23 Oct 2009, at 15:06, David Leimbach wrote:
on the contrary... I have
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:11 AM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
There is a vast range of applications that cannot
be managed in real time using existing single-core technology.
I'm sorry to interrupt your discussion, but what is real time?
Real time just means fast enough to work
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:52 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Thu Oct 15 09:41:29 EDT 2009, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote:
in fact, i believe i used an apple ][ around
that time that had ~744k.
Are you sure that was an apple II? When I bought mine I remember
wrestling
Did you find any ideas there particularly engaging?
I'm still digesting it. My first thoughts were that if my pc is a
distributed heterogeneous computer, what lessons it can borrow from earlier
work on distributed heterogeneous computing (ie. plan9).
I found the discussion on cache
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:44 AM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/2 Sam Watkins s...@nipl.net:
could be removed if anyone fixes hg.
from the way the mercurial guys go on about it,
it sounds like the fix might not be trivial.
it does seem like a ridiculous thing, but it
seems
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:19 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Sam Watkins s...@nipl.net wrote:
I tried to check out v9fs, but the compressed git repo without checkout
is over
300Mb.
That's git for you. When you go to git it, you git ALL of it.
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:23 AM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:19 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Sam Watkins s...@nipl.net wrote:
I tried to check out v9fs, but the compressed git repo without checkout
is over
I think it's officially a port of Plan 9's kernel to the vx32 stuff, so it's
not precisely the same as running a Plan 9 box natively, or in another
emulator, but it is indeed quite a feat, and close enough that most people
won't notice.
Personally, I'd love to be able to completely replace
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:33 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
We're getting bloated and huge. Yes, it's a problem, said Torvalds.
So may be Tanenbaum was right, after all, there's a reason we make
things modular.
rob, presotto, ken and phil did not agree with tanenbaum's
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sep 21, 2009, at 9:33 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
We're getting bloated and huge. Yes, it's a problem, said Torvalds.
So may be Tanenbaum was right, after all, there's a reason we make
things modular.
rob,
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:47 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
Are these systems more complex to reason about though? Probably :-).
But
when you've only got 7 system calls (per the original L4 specifications
I've
read over) you don't really have a lot to debug. Just gotta
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:14 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Tue Sep 22 11:06:37 EDT 2009, leim...@gmail.com wrote:
The argument is that if something is logically separable from a larger
system, and independently testable, then once you've verified it is
correct,
and
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:13 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
btw, there's even been one ukernel recently that has a formal
proof of correctness (against its specification and some containment
properties). Roughly a 10 man-year effort for about 7.5kloc.
Not something you'd
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Patrick Kelly kameo76...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sep 21, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Jack Norton wrote:
ron minnich wrote:
2.7M lines last year
10K lines added a day.
5K lines deleted per day.
I keep thinking this can't be sustained. What happens next?
At the same
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.netwrote:
we'd have been much better off if Apple had instead spent the
time and effort writing a decent iTunes, or opening their platform
interfaces enough that someone else could do it (and on Linux, not just Mac
or
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:52 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
Now, Plan 9's kernel is pretty old too, isn't it?
that's the point. age is a red herring.
What has saved other 'popular' kernels from this? For instance, no body
ever complains about FreeBSD being a complex
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Jack Norton j...@0x6a.com wrote:
erik quanstrom wrote:
Now, Plan 9's kernel is pretty old too, isn't it?
that's the point. age is a red herring.
What has saved other 'popular' kernels from this? For instance, no body
ever complains about FreeBSD
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Anant Narayanan an...@kix.in wrote:
On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Roman V Shaposhnik wrote:
I still do care very much (and in fact, I've been meaning
to provide some of the answers on this mailing list, but
apparently one can't upgrade to Snow Leopard over
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Iruata Souza iru.mu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Bakul Shah
bakul+pl...@bitblocks.combakul%2bpl...@bitblocks.com
wrote:
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:31:28 PDT David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com
wrote:
Having wrestled with this stuff
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Roman V Shaposhnik r...@sun.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 15:15 -0300, Iruata Souza wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Bakul Shah
bakul+pl...@bitblocks.combakul%2bpl...@bitblocks.com
wrote:
int x;
void trash_x() { x = -42; }
... ^{
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.netwrote:
if people would leave off moaning about moaning,
we'd clear the space for more moaning about lisp
although the former did have the advantage that the
messages were shorter and didn't quote the bulk of
all previous
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Greg Comeaucom...@panix.com wrote:
In article 25cf9336-c071-44a5-ab04-6bb042bc5...@kix.in,
Anant Narayanan an...@kix.in wrote:
I understand the argument that blocks don't feel C-like, but the
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.comwrote:
In this respect rating the expressive power of C versus LISP depends
very much on the problem domain under discussion.
Of course. I pointed out in my first post on the thread that [...] for a
person of my (low)
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote:
I would like to see Haskell fill C's niche: it's close to C's
execution speed now, and pure functions and a terse style gives real
advantages in coding speed (higher-order functions abstract common
patterns without tedious
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Jason Catena jason.cat...@gmail.com wrote:
Hailed Eris:
I was alluding to the expressive power of C versus LISP considered with
respect to the primitives available on one's computing platform and
primitives in which solutions to one's problems are best
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Bakul Shah
bakul+pl...@bitblocks.combakul%2bpl...@bitblocks.com
wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:35:35 PDT David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com
wrote:
Actually, reading on a bit more they deal with the variable capture
talking about const copies
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:14 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
But this has no more to do with parallelism than any other
feature of C. If you used __block vars in a block, you'd
still need to lock them when the block is called from
different threads.
that's a lot worse than
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Bakul Shah
bakul+pl...@bitblocks.combakul%2bpl...@bitblocks.com
wrote:
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:47:18 PDT David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Bakul Shah
bakul+pl...@bitblocks.com bakul%2bpl...@bitblocks.com
bakul%2bpl
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:46 PM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote:
I mean HTTP has a small protocol, but if you count all the things you can
do
with REST, then it looks like a lot more.
HTTP might be many things, small is
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Greg Comeau com...@panix.com wrote:
In article 3096bd910909020751o12086713m4291e2f1b77da...@mail.gmail.com,
Rodolfo kix k...@kix.es wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote:
Q: Will C continue to be important into the future?
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Devon H. O'Delldevon.od...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/9/2 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Anant Narayananan...@kix.in wrote:
Mac OS 10.6 introduced a new C compiler frontend
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:02 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
The blocks aren't interesting at all by themselves, I totally agree with
that. However what they do to let you write a function inline, that can
be
pushed to another function, to be executed on a concurrent FIFO,
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:58 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
Apple's using it all over the place in Snow Leopard, in all their native
apps to write cleaner, less manual-lock code. At least, that's the claim
:-).
could someone explain this to me? i'm just missing how
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
Apple's using it all over the place in Snow Leopard, in all their
native
apps to write cleaner, less manual-lock code. At least, that's the
claim
:-).
could someone explain this to me? i'm just
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:49 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:45 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:35 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Thu Sep 3 17:09:01 EDT 2009, r...@sun.com wrote:
Anything can
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:35 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Thu Sep 3 17:09:01 EDT 2009, r...@sun.com wrote:
Anything can be done using regular C and threads. The trick here
is to make everything *scalable* and *painless* enough so that
mere mortals can start benefiting
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:45 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:35 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Thu Sep 3 17:09:01 EDT 2009, r...@sun.com wrote:
Anything can be done using regular C and threads. The trick here
is to make everything
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:52 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
Did you even read the article or any of the examples? There are plenty
of things that you can do with blocks that you can't with just
function pointers. That's besides the fact that some of them are more
elegantly
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:44 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
that sucker is on the stack. by-by no-execute stack.
how does it get to the stack? is it just copied from
the text segment or is it compiled at run time?
I don't think I posted the whole code, so that's
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:31 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:44 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
that sucker is on the stack. by-by no-execute stack.
how does it get to the stack? is it just copied from
the text segment
Has anyone actually looked at the spec or is this just armchair philosophy?
I've actually looked at these, and used em a little bit. They're not at all
as bad as I once thought they could be, and the reason they're there is to
work with a concurrency framework onto which blocks can be scheduled
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Iruata Souza iru.mu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Eris Discordiaeris.discor...@gmail.com
wrote:
Although, you may be better off reading SICP as intended, and use MIT
Scheme on either Windows or a *NIX. The book (and the freaking
One again, have you tried Cilk for exactly this kind of thing? I'd
be curious to know your opinion on how what you see in SL compares to
it.
Nope, but it sounds interesting.
Blocks themselves are really not terribly useful, you need the
libdispatch library to make the real value in
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:38 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Wed Sep 2 10:33:07 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
Q: Will C continue to be important into the future?
(Dave Kirk, Nvidia)A: No, I think C will die like Fortran has
isn't this the same company that claims
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Robert Raschke rtrli...@googlemail.comwrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:38 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Wed Sep 2 10:33:07 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
Q: Will C continue to be important into the future?
(Dave Kirk, Nvidia)A: No, I
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.comwrote:
Clarifying context: this was at a hpc clusters conference -- their view of
fortran is not your view of fortran.
Having supported Fortran for MPI implementations before, I know what you
mean :-)
Sent from my iPhone
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote:
http://graphics.cs.williams.edu/archive/SweeneyHPG2009/TimHPG2009.pdf
on p. 43/44 i believe it is claimed that one
cannot do CSP without pure functional
programming.
(p ⇒ q) ⇏ (¬p ⇒ ¬q)
That's interesting
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:35 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com wrote:
on p. 43/44 i believe it is claimed that one
cannot do CSP without pure functional
programming.
(p ⇒ q) ⇏ (¬p ⇒ ¬q)
That's interesting because pure functional programming doesn't exist at
all
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Brian L. Stuart blstu...@bellsouth.netwrote:
Q: Will C continue to be important into the future?
(Dave Kirk, Nvidia)A: No, I think C will die like
Fortran has
let me explain the joke. In HPC circles, people have been
predicting
the death of fortran
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Jonathan Cast jonathancc...@fastmail.fmwrote:
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 11:27 -0700, David Leimbach wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com
wrote:
http://graphics.cs.williams.edu/archive/SweeneyHPG2009/TimHPG2009
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Jonathan Cast jonathancc...@fastmail.fmwrote:
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 13:02 -0700, David Leimbach wrote:
And if you prefer a plea to authority over logic, I haven't said
anything that Simon Peyton Jones hasn't himself said about Haskell.
Well, I disagree
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:16 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
i've pushed an update of my nupas contrib
package to sources. imap successful in use
with apple mail (snow leper, too), iphone,
outlook, opera, ff, upas/fs.
note on installing:
as devon pointed out, installation is
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:46 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
Also, Eric, the 9atom.iso works on my older AMD machine for
installation!
THANKS! :-)
hey! back to the original story line. that's
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
Now that I've had a chance to really examine the system, I'm noticing a
rather high interrupt count (1584), and I'm not exactly sure how to
figure
out what's triggering them.
i set HZ=1000. so that accounts for
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:54 AM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
perhaps we should try to boot plan 9 from a linux kernel? Sounds great to
me...
this probably makes me a troll...
I'm pretty sure Ron has done that too... from LinuxBIOS.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:19 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
I'm pretty sure Ron has done that too... from LinuxBIOS.
i'm pretty sure that coreboot neé linuxbios is not linux.
Could be, I've never had the luxury of trying it all out... however I
thought a minimal linux from
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:33 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:24 AM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote:
Could be, I've never had the luxury of trying it all out... however I
thought a minimal linux from coreboot/linuxbios (I think it was called
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:46 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
Also, Eric, the 9atom.iso works on my older AMD machine for installation!
THANKS! :-)
hey! back to the original story line. that's great, and
you're welcome. i'd encourage anyone to report on
your success or
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:37 AM, matt maht-9f...@maht0x0r.net wrote:
To further report the machine seems to be running after installation quite
snappily though I seem to have messed something up and get a lot of
messages about failed venti writes, due to a lack of a connection.
I'm interested in doing some stuff with the Palm Pre. I'm actually looking
at the javascript implementations of it as well. I just have practically no
time to invest these days in this stuff.
I think someone already got some of the plan 9 userspace tools on here
though.
Dave
On Thu, Aug 27,
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:16 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
2009/8/26 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
it contains all the changes from the last 10 days.
should fix all reported problems, except béla's.
Could you post the link? I am new to this list and plan9, and
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:59 AM, C H Forsyth fors...@vitanuova.com wrote:
I'm actually looking at the javascript implementations of [9p] as well.
has javascript finally got support for binary data?
I haven't been following. I find a lot of web stuff to be off-putting, so
I've not been
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:05 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:51 AM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote:
I think there's work going on to use plan 9 to load plan 9 (maybe?) to
replace 9load.
It's a gsoc project for Iruata to which I just gave a
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com wrote:
I haven't been following. I find a lot of web stuff to be off-putting,
so
I've not been keeping up. base64 encoding stuff is crap but could
suffice
in a pinch.
uh, i don't think so. 9p2000 doesn't have a
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:16 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
2009/8/26 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
it contains all the changes from the last 10 days.
should fix all reported problems, except béla's.
Could you post the link? I am new to this list and plan9, and
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:20 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
I really don't understand why, from home or work, I can't download this
thing...
cf819b70c90cedc39e305fb57d38f5df37302f84
Is the checksum I'm getting.
that's the same checksum i posted. i guess i don't
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:59 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
Yeah, I realized that after I posted I sent the wrong checksum.
e4441484b67be72ad0fd62cc828052f6 9atom.iso.bz2
is what I got.
that's the proper md5sum. i posed the sha1sum.
maybe i didn't make that clear.
-
Just fired up my plan 9 image in VMWare, and I noticed that gnot is showing
a large amount of interrupts, and then the whole tracking of the system
interrupts goes to nothing, the mouse stops working, and things are
generally frozen.
However, the odd bit is at one point time seemed to speed up and
now i am getting repeated soverflow for fx-in messages repeatedly.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:20 AM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
Just fired up my plan 9 image in VMWare, and I noticed that gnot is showing
a large amount of interrupts, and then the whole tracking of the system
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:32 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Tue Aug 18 10:28:44 EDT 2009, leim...@gmail.com wrote:
now i am getting repeated soverflow for fx-in messages repeatedly.
it sounds like the interrupt handler takes long enough that
there is no time to process
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM, David Leimbachleim...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/13/09, erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com wrote:
we don't use te*xt for 9p, do we?
the difference being, 9p is the transport not
the
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:44 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
It had to happen:
System and method for accessing SMASH-CLP commands as a web service
United States Patent Application 20080016143
Oh there's absolutely no prior art there ... in the namespace thing.
I think I'm going
On 8/13/09, erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com wrote:
we don't use te*xt for 9p, do we?
the difference being, 9p is the transport not
the representation of the data and 9p has
a fixed set of messages.
Also 9p aims at file systems pretty obviously where Thirft is a
generic RPC mechanism with
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fmwrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:13:58 +0200
Bela Valek bval...@gmail.com wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but an sshv2 server is also providing sshv1
too.
I vaguely remember reading that some ssh software would refuse
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Daniel Lyons fus...@storytotell.orgwrote:
On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I
discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of
proportional fonts for
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:57 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
i don't know where it's getting the 9pcf that it's putting in 9fat. it
doesn't appear to be the same as /386/9pcf from the cd. (there's
only one.)
as soon as i figure that out, this will probablly all work.
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:24 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
(Did you ever notice it puts it back when it's done? Error window
pops up, mouse moves there; delete the window, mouse moves back.)
worth one smile per day, after all these years.
☺
- erik
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Lyons fus...@storytotell.orgwrote:
On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
X11 isn't a desktop, it tries very hard not to define a look and feel, but
it has to include inter-app communications to support the supposedly
desirable drag
Now here's the point. I and a billion other people HAVE MORE FUN THINGS TO
DO THAN FRET ABOUT SECURITY. A weak OS needs me to put in boring work...
Hah... yes, that would be why I'm merely reading this thread instead of
adding to it... Oh crap, nevermind :-)
--
Ethan Grammatikidis
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:56 PM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
the time problem i was having before (fast clock) had seemed to be
irreproducible. however just now, i noticed the following
odd behaviour:
fiddle% date -u
Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 GMT 1970
fiddle% cat /dev/time
0
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Bakul Shah
bakul+pl...@bitblocks.combakul%2bpl...@bitblocks.com
wrote:
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:12:08 PDT David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com
wrote:
Wow Where's parallels 4. I doubt I qualify for a free one. And
VMWare
Fusion really sucks with Plan 9
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