Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-06 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: it is (or was) in fgb's contrib. he ported it over back in 2006. cpue% js js help() JavaScript-C 1.5 pre-release 6a 2004-06-09 So it is even better, than I thought :-). G.

[9fans] nice terminal...

2011-05-06 Thread Gorka Guardiola
http://www.raspberrypi.org/ G.

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-05 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:54 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.comwrote: perhaps we should revisit the links port. i see they have a 2.3pre2 version released couple of weeks ago so it's not stale: http://links.twibright.com/download/ that would be minimal effort compared to everything

Re: [9fans] more Plan 9 from Bell Labs questions

2011-04-04 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:36 AM, faif faif...@gmail.com wrote: 9P has two forms: RPC messages sent on a pipe or network connection and a procedural interface within the kernel. Since kernel device drivers are directly addressable, there is no need to pass messages to communicate with them;

Re: [9fans] some questions--gsoc

2011-03-31 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Myster G iur...@gmail.com wrote: for the APE what i found is the following:: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ape+plan+9 (after all we are talking about the plan 9 gsoc) ASN-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASN nothing related

Re: [9fans] Does 9P provide multicast for files?

2011-03-23 Thread Gorka Guardiola
With 9P, what happens when 2 readers have the same file open, both are blocked on a read() call, and then a writer writes to the file; which of the readers sees the data? Both? Both readers and writers are clients of a 9p file server. It decides who to answer. It is not specified by the

Re: [9fans] realemu

2011-03-01 Thread Gorka Guardiola
i'm sorry i've forgotten. what's the problem with unemulated vesa? Going back and forth to 16 bits does not make thing faster exactly. It will be even more fun in 64bits. 16-32-64... G.

Re: [9fans] usb/disk nvram and pxeload

2011-02-27 Thread Gorka Guardiola
G. On 27/02/2011, at 05:15, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: That was the approach i was taking when ... ( i only need 512 bytes after MBR, what could possibly go wrong?!) I destroyed some memorabilia on that flash. Oh well; no big loss. for some reason setting

Re: [9fans] usb/disk nvram and pxeload

2011-02-26 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: if i pxeload a cpu and want to be able to use an nvram partition on a usb disk (i.e. nvram=/dev/sdXX/nvram - once it is partitioned formated). it seems i also must change boot/boot.c to add the 'partfs fdisk

Re: [9fans] usb/disk nvram and pxeload

2011-02-26 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: if i pxeload a cpu and want to be able to use an nvram partition on a usb disk (i.e. nvram=/dev/sdXX/nvram - once it is partitioned formated). it seems i also must change boot/boot.c to add the 'partfs fdisk

Re: [9fans] plan9 compatible notebook

2011-01-25 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:56 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: this fix may also help those who had trouble with some disk sizes in virtualbox. I am using the regular kernel in virtualbox without a problem. What does 9atom fix exactly?. I only had two problems in virtualbox, a

Re: [9fans] plan9 compatible notebook

2011-01-25 Thread Gorka Guardiola
Is this the latest virtualbox? Yes, the non-free oracle version with usb extension pack.

[9fans] jtagfs(4) is done

2011-01-22 Thread Gorka Guardiola
For those of you who showed interest in the jtag, it is finished now (still beta, though). It fully supports acid (and some). You can stop a kernel (directly, via breakpoints or catching interrupts), look at its memory, change it, change its registers... Looking for testers, it is in

Re: [9fans] sheevaplug catatonic

2011-01-16 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:02 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Sun Jan 16 14:58:33 EST 2011, pau...@gmail.com wrote: Yes there is :-). It is another endpoint in the usb. I would try going at it with openocd. My jtag driver doesn't do reflashing yet. ocd, catatonic.  we're

Re: [9fans] sound, graphics, tuner

2011-01-15 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:38 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: Can anybody comment this and/or possibly point me at some good documents? It looks kind of easy, although I've never gone there myself.  After all, you just need to display two lines, one fixed (you omitted to mention that you

Re: [9fans] Noob says Hi ..

2011-01-13 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Duke Normandin dukeofp...@ml1.net wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, erik quanstrom wrote: When I start the install process from the Live CD, I'll probably be asked to choose a partition where I want Plan9 to live, right? I'll choose one; it'll warn me that the

[9fans] jtagfs

2011-01-10 Thread Gorka Guardiola
There is a fast and dirty jtagfs now, with two files so that people can play with it. This is the kind of things it can do, though there are no breakpoints yet: usb/serial echo b115200 s15 l8 pn /dev/eiaU5.1/eiaUctl window -m con /dev/eiaU5.1/eiaU kill 8.tagfs|rc

Re: [9fans] usb vid/did

2011-01-07 Thread Gorka Guardiola
I do see vids/dids just not for hubs. - Curiosity sKilled the cat G. On Jan 7, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Nemo nemo.m...@gmail.com wrote: i think usbd added that. iirc it should do it. I'll take a look anyway. maybe the code was gone in some change... On Jan 7, 2011, at 2:12 PM, erik quanstrom

Re: [9fans] usb vid/did

2011-01-07 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 5:52 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: okay, so there's some sort of bug.  what kind of output would you like.  this is for the kw ehci. Hmm, if it is a bug it is on purpose I think. You are right it could probably change to show vid/did. All is started

[9fans] jtag: almost there....

2011-01-02 Thread Gorka Guardiola
There are still some (hopefully minor) issues, but I have fully implemented all that is needed to use jtag. I can now freeze a plug on demand, make it dump registers or memory and continue executing. I'll finish cleaning up and start with the filesystem. For the adventurous there is a tar in my

Re: [9fans] dumb kw question

2010-12-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:00 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Mon Dec 27 04:07:57 EST 2010, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: what does BY2SE stand for? bytes per what? I don't know the answer but here's a clue: ether1116.c:573:              cachedwbse(r-cs, BY2SE); l.s:342:

Re: [9fans] dumb kw question

2010-12-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:00 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wro Se is in fact single entry in the cache, i.e. cache line. It is not a word necessarily (on other arm architectures it is 64 bytes if I remember

Re: [9fans] PAM?

2010-12-17 Thread Gorka Guardiola
This probably can be a good start if it didn't proceed further. http://plan9.bell-labs.com/iwp9/papers/13.p9auth.pdf http://gsoc.cat-v.org/hg/lincapdevice/ http://gsoc.cat-v.org/hg/p9pauthsrv/ On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: I know it's come up several

Re: [9fans] need feedback: bibTeX users?

2010-12-13 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:39 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: Hello, Since I'm finishing the task I have undertaken---provide a complete core TeX system with MetaPost---, there is one piece that is a WEB program, hence needs to be translated, and that may be used: bibTeX. We use it all the

Re: [9fans] need feedback: bibTeX users?

2010-12-13 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: We use it all the time. We stopped using it for a paper and it was a mess because the ordering and other things needed to be carefully checked each time the format changed. 0.99c -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

[9fans] first steps with the jtag...

2010-11-26 Thread Gorka Guardiola
As there seemed to be a lot of interest here on the jtag front, I´ll report my progress to this moment. I added some minimal endpoint initialization support to usb/serial (patch now on sources). I have written a small tap state machine mover and mpsse assembler that now seem to work. I have

Re: [9fans] 9p vs http

2010-11-15 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Sam Watkins s...@nipl.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:20:00PM -0500, John Floren wrote: Please see lsub's Op and my Streaming talk at the most recent IWP9. Ok, thanks.  I did not know that 9p has latency problems even when reading a single file.  I was

Re: [9fans] 9p vs http

2010-11-15 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Sam Watkins s...@nipl.net wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:20:00PM -0500, John Floren wrote: Please see lsub's Op and my Streaming talk at the most recent IWP9. Ok, thanks.  I did

[9fans] For those playing with the sheeva

2010-11-10 Thread Gorka Guardiola
This may be of help... http://www.plugcomputer.org/data/docs/Sheeva-PowerPlug-V1.3-GTI-090906.pdf HW this days requires you to actually know the schematics... -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

[9fans] we all hava a secret life...

2010-11-04 Thread Gorka Guardiola
I got spam today anouncing Richard Miller PhD at Yoga yoga... :-) http://www.yogayoga.com/special-events/special-topics-richard-miller -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] JTAG

2010-11-02 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Bhanu Nagendra Pisupati bpisu...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I am trying to understand the end objective of the JTAG work discussed in one of the threads last week (sorry, I'm behind on my mails!). There was one response that said: The hope is that it would help debug

Re: [9fans] JTAG

2010-11-02 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: Could one (is is this the plan) to generate a /proc like virtual file system for jtag so acid will then work over jtag? -Steve At the level I am thinking/trying now, I am thinking of exporting a filesystem with a file

Re: [9fans] JTAG

2010-11-02 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Nov 2, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Bakul Shah bakul+pl...@bitblocks.com wrote: Probably an overkill but this webpage has a lot of useful information on JTAG (it might be worth talking to Mark Whitis and/or checking out some links on the page for the plan9 JTAG effort).

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-31 Thread Gorka Guardiola
After some research and reading I believe that deadly embrace was first used in: E. W. Dijkstra EWD108: Een algorithme ter voorkoming van de dodelijke omarming (in Dutch; An algorithm for the prevention of the deadly embrace or so I 've been told. as a synonym for deadlock or actually to

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-31 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: So, yeah, deadlock is a synonym for deadly embrace. Yes, in Hoare's model they are indistinguishable, so when he says deadly embrace, he can refer to both. I mean livelock and deadlock are indistinguishable in Hoare's

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-31 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: So, yeah, deadlock is a synonym for deadly embrace. Yes, in Hoare's model they are indistinguishable, so when he says deadly embrace, he can refer

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-29 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: No! Open on an exclusive file has the same races. No problems on I said I agree it is a problem. Yes, there is a race... Froggie? A lily-white duck come and swallowed him up,..

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-29 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: What you are saying is that the problem could be something like: - Tclunk (do not wait for response) - Topen (the file is exclusive) no, because what actually happens is closer to        A: Topen        ...        

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-29 Thread Gorka Guardiola
Let's try to define 'decent' for this thread -- a decent fileserver is one on which close()s do not have any client-visible or semantic effect other than to invalidate the Fid that was passed to them. Lets see how many file servers we can think of that are 'decent': fossil, kfs, ken, Decent

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-29 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: back to school for roger On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:33 AM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2010 18:47, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: who said deadlock. it's an easily reproducible

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: you're essentially replacing        f := open(name, ...)        ...        close(f) which runs as a sequential process, and subject to the usual rules for sequential composition, by        f := open(name, ...)

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
Wouldn´t a better way be?: f := open(name, ...) tclunk(f); spawn deallocfid(f); //and whatever needs to be done on Rclunk Hmm, it would be more like sending the Tclunk and not waiting for the response. That would mean that the fid cannot be unmarked for reuse until the response is

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: the race is that there's nothing to say that the clunk completes before the process continues on to do something more, including some action that depends on the clunk completing, such as simply repeating the open.

Re: [9fans] A little more ado about async Tclunk

2010-10-27 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: Sorry that wing-commander can't package it for today. sorry old boy, it wasn't LMF: at first we thought it was a wizard wheeze, but one of the sprogs had a prang with the bally old semantics and the other brass

Re: [9fans] JTAG

2010-10-26 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:28 PM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: I just ran into the following FAQ and info that might be of help: a JTAG FAQ: http://hri.sourceforge.net/tools/jtag_faq_org.html interesting detail: TAG specification is in Std IEEE 1149.1 (costs about $100). I don't have it.

Re: [9fans] IWP9 Schedule?

2010-10-09 Thread Gorka Guardiola
SOP for getting stuff across the border in this neck of the woods is the high-speed midnight stealth-kayak run from Victoria to Port Washington. I am not engaging in this kind of conversation until i am safely back in Spain. Got enough random security checks as it is... G.

Re: [9fans] IWP9 Schedule?

2010-10-09 Thread Gorka Guardiola
According to my last 5/7 airport trips (none international), I'm a rather random person, too. Its more fun with a piece of steel in your knee... Beeps in the hand detector and you get all kinds of interesting reactions...

Re: [9fans] alt and chanfree

2010-09-14 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Mathieu Lonjaret mathieu.lonja...@gmail.com wrote: isn't that what chanclose()/chanclosing() is for? - erik Not at all. Chanclose and chanclosing are to be used while the channel still exists. A closed channel is not a freed channel. Close/closing are useful

Re: [9fans] Buying a Guru Plug. Do I want/need the JTAG module too?

2010-09-10 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Paul Lalonde paul.a.lalo...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to run it as a household control server, notwithstanding various teething pains/devices.  If I fail too badly, I can probably coerce Linux to do what I need. Paul -- Is this hardware you are talking

Re: [9fans] Inducing artificial latency

2010-06-15 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:29 PM, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to be doing some work with 9P and high-latency links this summer and fall. I need to be able to test things over a high-latency network, but since I may be modifying the kernel, running stuff on e.g. mordor is

Re: [9fans] Inducing artificial latency

2010-06-15 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:07 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: Last time I needed something similar, I just run a modified iostats. how does iostats add latency? hence the modified. -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] configure a plan9 cpu+file+auth server

2010-05-13 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:01 AM, ruel hernandez ru6...@gmail.com wrote: I made a new installation of plan9 at work, now i can use plan9 at home and at work. :) After a few days of using the system and reading some papers from the internet, i decided to turn it into a plan9 cpu+file +auth

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:23 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: echo 1 2 | hoc -e '{while(read(x) != 0)y += x' ^ $nl ^ ' print y, \n}' Maybe it makes a sense to add in hoc(1) expression delimiter like a ';'? i don't use hoc very often.  i tend to use acid.  (!) this is

Re: [9fans] arm ports update

2010-05-13 Thread Gorka Guardiola
In the sheeva you can access the Jtag through the usb port... - Curiosity sKilled the cat G. On May 13, 2010, at 6:48 PM, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: thank you! the two guruplugs i had ordered arrived today. i was disappoint to find that i'll need to order the JTAG board

Re: [9fans] three sets of windows

2010-04-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
You can use keys as mouse buttons. I still prefer a separate mouse but sometimes it is not an option. - Curiosity sKilled the cat G. On Apr 28, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Gary V. Vaughan g...@vaughan.pe wrote: On 28 Apr 2010, at 22:05, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: On 28 Apr 2010, at 15:40,

Re: [9fans] plan9 on qemu and 9vx

2010-03-12 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:53 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: Unless there's some compelling reason to use qemu (I can't think of one) Debugging the kernel. -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] Binary format

2010-02-17 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: Hi folks, just curious: which binfmt does Plan9 use ? How are share libraries handled (if they exist at all) ? a.out(6) no shared libraries. Inspired by recent discussions @ gentoo-user, I'm thinking a bit how an

Re: [9fans] Speed of 9pfuse on Linux

2010-02-10 Thread Gorka Guardiola
Maybe yes, maybe no. What is the latency to your file server?. http://lsub.org/ls/export/opiwp9.pdf http://lsub.org/ls/export/opiwp9tlk.pdf -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] Speed of 9pfuse on Linux

2010-02-10 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Venkatesh Srinivas m...@acm.jhu.edu wrote: Perhaps the time to talk about QTDECENT is at hand? I feel like it is Groundhog Day lately when I read the list. -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] vgaradeon (was Re: Problem of last update?)

2010-01-27 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:36 PM, ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: My long-term goal is to eliminate all the vga drivers but vgavesa, which make up about 10% of the pc kernel port by line count.  This may not be possible due to currently-working graphics cards with broken vesa bioses nor

Re: [9fans] Just one piece o' help.

2010-01-14 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Purple_Q bitpusher2...@gmail.com wrote: 1. mount a cd, usb stick, or another local filesystem. The mount command is nothing like what i'm used to on linux or BSD, and the /mnt folder is kind of confusing. How can I mount/ummount things and approx. where do

Re: [9fans] libthread API

2010-01-08 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 10:40 AM, anonymous aim0s...@lavabit.com wrote: Why libthread has threadcreate instead of something like fork? With Preemptive vs cooperative. -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] Sheevaplug

2009-12-14 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote: Ours is finally in Spain, at customs. Knowing our bureaucracy, it may still take a week or two to get my hands on it. There is also a half written untried driver for the serial usb waiting for it to arrive to be

Re: [9fans] automatic page sharing

2009-10-30 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:25:59 +0100 Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: Pardon if this has come up before, but what about the greatly increased time taken to launch a shared-lib program?  That's quite Not that

Re: [9fans] So quiet!

2009-10-25 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: I thought it was just wonderful, and noticed similar reactions from everyone else. It was a very fine meeting. Yes, I had a lot of fun too!!. could somone post a quick summary of the plan9 extra-cirricular activities,

Re: [9fans] IWP9 hack session

2009-10-06 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:38 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: oh yeah, I assume the first step to hacking these is cracking them open? Or is there a way via the usb port to get serial console (does not seem so from block diagram) Mechiel told me there was a way to get a serial out

Re: [9fans] clarification on man 9p

2009-10-03 Thread Gorka Guardiola
There is a version that is. Its source is with the library. - Curiosity sKilled the cat G. On Oct 3, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Fernan Bolando fernanbola...@mailc.net wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: In general, the File interface is appropriate for

Re: [9fans] lowest valid stack address

2009-09-02 Thread Gorka Guardiola
2009/9/2 Andrés Domínguez andres...@gmail.com: 2009/9/2 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: aside: from the overcommit vm discussion. in http://9fans.net/archive/2000/06/634 rob says that plan 9 doesn't overcommit vm. what's the history here? Exactly two years ago you started a thread

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, erik quanstromquans...@coraid.com wrote: Do we stick with that file format forever? is it perfect and never to be changed? would it be fair to ask a the same question from a little different perspective? could someone explain what the disadvantages and

Re: [9fans] new 9atom.iso

2009-08-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Gorka Guardiolapau...@gmail.com wrote: could someone explain what the disadvantages and problems with 9fat are?  i'm asking out of ignorance, since 9fat hasn't been a problem for me. That it is too complicated to pares in 512 bytes. s/pares/parse/ -- -

Re: [9fans] sed oddity

2009-08-18 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Urielurie...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, this reminds me of a question I had: is there any command that would read from stdin, and write to stdout, but if there was an error when writing to stdout it would ignore it and continue reading stdin? It is trivial

Re: [9fans] vmware snarf problem

2009-07-30 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:22 AM, roger pepperogpe...@gmail.com wrote: actually, i lied when i said that nothing ever comes out of the snarf buffer. if i copy some text externally (inside mac os), then i get it, just once, inside plan 9/vmware. reading it seems to clear it. Isn't this

Re: [9fans] new usb stack and implicit timeouts

2009-07-20 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Francisco J Ballesterosn...@lsub.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 5:46 PM, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb6.htm#SetupPacket IIRC, I think the host controller is responsible for timing out requests sent to the device (I

Re: [9fans] nemo's book - where is it currently hosted?

2009-07-13 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:19 PM, james toym...@0xabadba.be wrote: I suspect lsub will be back up very shortly.  If you cannot wait until then feel free to mail me off list and I will send you a copy. Sorry for this. The people from the University have been doing some maintenance on the

Re: [9fans] new usb implementation

2009-05-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:52 AM, Shaowei Wang (wsw) wsw1w...@gmail.com wrote: Is this news mean we can hotplug the usb mouse and keyboard? yes. -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] auto reconnect for cpu servers

2009-05-12 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: there is also recover (gorka should know where the source is these days) but that requires building a custom kernel to connect through it, and i'm not sure how well that particular setup works. The source for recover is in my

Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

2009-04-17 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman bdhee...@gmail.com wrote: Please set aside rare cases and let us know who except for the students, teachers and, or researchers uses Plan9 and, or Inferno in the offices, homes and, or cafes and for what? The Plan9 project started in 1980,

Re: [9fans] alternative port with webfs?

2009-03-15 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Mathieu lejat...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm working on something that will use http requests so I figured using webfs instead of reinventing the wheel might be a good idea, even though I've been hinted on #plan9 that it's far from perfect. My first try was

Re: [9fans] 'cd' into non-existent directory?

2009-02-13 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Pavel Klinkovsky pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, it seems I missed something but... If I enter the /n directory, I can make 'cd' command into non-existent (not mounted) 'directory' (or filesystem) successfully. % cd /n % ls 9 9fat ... %

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-27 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Jonas Amoson jonas.amo...@home.se wrote: it is quite hard to mistype on it... yes, it is *also* hard to mistype on it. -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

[9fans] initialization of anonymous structs.

2008-12-04 Thread Gorka Guardiola
Say I have a couple of structs like: typedef struct A A; typedef struct B B; struct A { int a1; int a2; }; struct B { A; int b1; int b2; }; Now I want to declare a variable of kind B with parts initialized. Is there anyway to initialize the A inside the B?. I have

Re: [9fans] initialization of anonymous structs.

2008-12-04 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Gorka Guardiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say I have a couple of structs like: typedef struct A A; typedef struct B B; struct A { int a1; int a2; }; struct B { A; int b1; int b2; }; Now I want to declare a variable of kind B

Re: [9fans] What about Haskell? [was: How can I use alef?]

2008-11-20 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Giacomo Tesio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm completely new to Functional Languages (actually I'm not understanding whether they are useful in real world, or just to enance ones mind). But I'm studing Haskell, and I saw that it was ported to Plan 9. Without

Re: [9fans] Help downloading Plan B using hget

2008-11-14 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Dave Eckhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hget is similar to almost all plan 9 programs and (not surprisingly) different from many modern unix programs in that, by default, it writes to standard output. This may seem idiosyncratic, but it has a big benefit.

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-12 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Brantley Coile [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That explains why IBM's MVS didn't have locking at all. One would conclude from that fact that locking isn't required to do even serious business applications. I don't follow your reasoning. Saying fcntl locking is not

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-11 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:28 PM, hiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must have missed something. what dav server? We have one for inferno in the octopus. We presented/talked about it in IWP9 at Volos. -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] Volos

2008-10-30 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Skip Tavakkolian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope we get lots of pictures from all of those at Volos! yes please and post them in realtime if at all possible. http://picasaweb.google.com/paurea/Volos103008803AM -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] sam filenames containing whitespace

2008-10-22 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Rob Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cat 'a b' edit ,cat 'a b' Clunky but so be it. Sam comes from a system where spaces in file names made no sense. -rob Another solution is to use trfs(4) http://planb.lsub.org/magic/man2html/4/trfs -- - curiosity

Re: [9fans] Are there any blind users of Plan 9?

2008-10-20 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Chris Brannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I'm blind, and I use Unix from the text console. I'm interested in trying out Plan 9. It appears to be a very clean system. Are there any blind people in the Plan 9 community? If so, I am very interested in

Re: [9fans] trace device paper from akijohnron now available

2008-09-18 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:15 AM, ron minnich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was going into greece but I am not going and they aren't either so: /n/sources/contrib/rminnich/tracepaper/trace.ps The modified 8l described in the paper is also in that directory. If you want the trace dev let me

Re: [9fans] test command

2008-09-10 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Juan Céspedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I'm confused, but what Kenji said is that: test command of plan 9 has a operator older, the usage is: test f -older t where f is a file and t is a time. If f is a file ant t is a *time*, you can't do test t

Re: [9fans] Acme without Flamage

2008-08-20 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:42 PM, David Leimbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing I'd miss in Acme vs emacs then, most likely, for lisp-like languages is paren-matching. And I'd miss it dearly. Double click on the paren selects the area enclosed by the matching paren. -- -

Re: [9fans] 9vx

2008-06-27 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Venkatesh Srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works impressively well here. Even snarf/paste between host and 9vx is working. Did only the 9 kernel need modifications or did the applications binaries need to be recompiled as well? --vs 9vx requires no host

Re: [9fans] ilock funny?

2008-05-29 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:34 AM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in this situation there are 128 kernel procs that all increment the same counter with some code that looks like so: void incref(void) { ilock(somelock); someval++; iunlock(somelock); } (i

Re: [9fans] network problem

2008-05-08 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:21 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you're going to pxe boot, you should generally be using bootf=9load. sorry, bootf=/386/9load. you mean 9pxeload ? -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] /lib/rfc

2008-04-22 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had the same problem time ago and had to lower the mtu by hand. Perhaps detecting too many retransmissions of the same packet could be considered a hint of this problem and try by reducing at least once

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 refuses to boot from iMac

2008-04-18 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:34 PM, ron minnich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: send the mac to me. I will fix it as I fixed Gorka's mac. You are always a blessing :-). -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] Eeepc

2008-03-27 Thread Gorka Guardiola
Either the BIOS is not exposing the USB stick as a disk, or the 9load BIOS device code isn't searching correctly. I'm going to give it a r This is easy to see. Install a pbs on it and see if it gets loaded and run. If it is not, the BIOS does not see it. Take a look at the configuration

[9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Gorka Guardiola
I was trying to echo the string '-n' and couldn't. This is because -n doesn't use ARGBEGIN. This command results in: echo -- -n -- -n I ended up doing echo a-n|sed s/a// Do I send the patch, do you consider this a bug?. -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Sape Mullender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: echo -- -n because we do gnot like that sort of stuff. rm -- -r whynot rm: -r: '-r' file does not exist rm: whaynot: 'whaynot' file does not exist -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

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