So is it so that anybody using vesa should see it in plan9 when
hwaccel is off or when inferno runs on plan9 regardless the state of
hwaccel?
(At school I use i81x and plan9 itself is ok with both on/off.)
Thanks
Ruda
2009/9/7 Charles Forsyth :
> there's a bug in the control of the software curs
2009/9/7 SHRIZZA :
>> I'd like to ask whether anyone encountered problems when one turns off
>> the hardware acceleration with
>> cat hwaccel off > /dev/vgactl
>
> Of course, you mean "echo -n hwaccel off > /dev/vgactl", right?
>
yes, 'echo', not 'cat', actually
echo hwaccel off > /dev/vgactl
>> Considering that Plan 9 has only two inherent languages,
>> and its users often push for work to be done in only those,
>> what is the Plan 9 perspective of languages and tools in
>> relation to each other?
I guess rc & C are meant.
True, I feel to be pushed to these. On the other hand I really
Hello everyone,
I'd like to ask whether anyone encountered problems when one turns off
the hardware acceleration with
cat hwaccel off > /dev/vgactl
When I do it, my mouse leaves some garbage at some points, or, e.g. I
can't nicely select text with the mouse---there are some pieces
missing.
I fou
> i do see that the +s don't line up, but only by 1 pixel.
> why do you think they should? i would think that the
> centerline of the left ( right ) business should line up
> with the centerline of a +. but that's an uneducated
> guess. can you point to a reference that says eqn
> behaves as you
One more trial...
Really nobody uses 'eqn' these days?...
Thanks
Ruda
2009/8/13 Rudolf Sykora :
> Hello everyone
>
> Why do I get an ugly result when trying to typeset (in file 'a')
>
> .EQ
> a + left ( A + B right )
> .EN
>
> with
> eqn a | tro
Hello,
in a newbie-guide.pdf
www.quanstro.net/newbie-guide.pdf
I read:
Column Menu:
Snarf --- Copy the selected text into the snarf buffer (from anywhere in the
column).
For me it doesn't work like that. For me _all_ column menu Snarf
(Past, Cut) commands are equivalent irrespectively of the
2009/8/13 Anthony Sorace :
> you need venti for dumps, but not snapshots. do "9fs snap" and then
> see if there's anything in /n/snap. these are ephemeral, not archival.
>
> i don't believe fossil ships with these turned on by default, so
> you're likely SOL, sorry.
Well, after
9fs snap
/n/snap
is
... Do I need venti to be able to use the dump feature?
Thanks
Ruda
Hello everyone
Why do I get an ugly result when trying to typeset (in file 'a')
.EQ
a + left ( A + B right )
.EN
with
eqn a | troff | dpost -f > a.ps?
I am getting an equation in which the 'A+B' is significantly shifted
downwards inside the (), so that the two pluses just don't line up...
Than
Hello everyone,
I have, by mistake, deleted a file.
I use fossil.
I don't know much about how fossil works...
Can I do something to get it back?
I tried yesterday, but it says /n/dump/2009 doesn't exist.
I looked in /n/dump and there is nothing.
I tried '9fs dump' but even after that /n/dump/ is
2009/8/10 Jason Catena :
> And so it does. I assumed I could only use Edit in conjunction with
> sam commands, but apparently Edit (or at least its author) is smarter
> than that.
Well, I'd say, that |... thing still _is_ a sam command..., only
delivered to the Edit command via the chord now.
(Al
A few words pertaining one of your points.
2009/8/10 Jason Catena :
> For example, I often run "|fmt -w 72" to justify a paragraph in a text
> file. With wily, I can highlight text in any window, and justify the
> text from one copy of the command stored in any guide file. With
> acme, I can't
Also check the Run script we discussed earlier in this forum. Could be
of help...
Ruda
2009/8/10 Aaron W. Hsu :
> Hello,
>
> When using guide files, let's say I have some Edit command or the like that
> I run often on certain types of files. So I have the guide file open, and I
> can copy the comm
Thanks a lot...
It works.
... I always forget that that leading tcp! is really necessary :)
(even though I know why, on second thought)
Ruda
2009/8/9 Lyndon Nerenberg :
>> Hello everyone,
>> I want to connect to a ssh server (v1) with the plan 9 ssh command.
>> However, the server runs on a non-st
Hello everyone,
I want to connect to a ssh server (v1) with the plan 9 ssh command.
However, the server runs on a non-standard port (not 22).
I can't figure out, how to specify the port number for the ssh command.
Thanks...
Ruda
2009/8/5 Russ Cox :
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
>> I noticed that when running acme in plan9port and having its
>> directories mounted say on /mnt/acme, then if I try from within a win
>> window in the acme to auto-complete a directory name---I am
Hello,
I noticed that when running acme in plan9port and having its
directories mounted say on /mnt/acme, then if I try from within a win
window in the acme to auto-complete a directory name---I am in /mnt, I
type 'a' and hit the 'insert' key or ctrl-f, or I am anywhere inside
the acme filesystem-
Hello,
is there anything ready for troff/eqn that could help me with
1) automatic equation numbering with possible setting a label to an
equation by means of which one could forward/backward reference the
equation?
2) setting a label somewhere in the text, so one can reference it and
obtain e.g. a
2009/7/8 Russ Cox :
> I assume you have a non-Plan 9 machine to play with.
> It's worth trying Heirloom troff there to see if the boxes
> are done better. They probably are.
as far as I see, they are not better.
> I need to fall back to the Plan 9 troff, because the low-level
> details seem to d
2009/7/8 Russ Cox :
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
>> can anybody tell me why whatever .ps about troff/eqn I print has
>> misplaced lines?
>> E.g. quite generally, lines that make up tables either don't touch, or
>> stick out somewhere...
Hello everyone,
can anybody tell me why whatever .ps about troff/eqn I print has
misplaced lines?
E.g. quite generally, lines that make up tables either don't touch, or
stick out somewhere...
Also, should
.BX something
make a nice box around 'something' or not? Anywhere I look I see the
top line
see also 'acme -a'
> auto-indenting in plan9port's Acme editor?
I think, if you write 'Indent on' somewhere in a window (e.g. the tag
line) and execute it, indentation will be on for the given window; if
you use 'Indent On' instead, it sould be set for all windows.
Further, I guess off/Off should work the opposite way. The man page has it.
Ruda
2009/7/3 Aaron
2009/6/26 hugo rivera :
> I tested the command you suggested (,x/\/\*/.,/\*\//) and it works as
> I wanted, thanks. But there's something I still don't understand and
> is the meaning of that comma in there. As far as I know, the comma is
> a mark that delimits the addresses that acme understands,
Hello everyone,
1) If I want to set the hardware (on-board) clock by hand, how can I?
2) If I want to synchronize the hardware time with a ntp server (once
/ periodically), how can I?
3) If I run the 'timesync -n [ntp server]' command, how is the
frequency of synchronization determined? If I run i
> This is a design bug in acme.
> Russ
Ok, I understand. Thanks for the explanation!
Ruda
Hello everyone,
might be I am doing something wrong, but this seems to me like a bug...
In some acme window I have a command, e.g simply s/f/g/, I select it
with a mouse and 2-1 chord it on the Edit command in a tag line of a
window in which there is win running and also some text (for us e.g.
ab
> See http://swtch.com/~rsc/acme-Run.png for an illustration.
>
> Russ
Thank you much!
This is what I need and now I see how it can be achieved...
:)
Ruda
> and you want somebody do look through the code and figure it out for you?
not really. I wanted to know whether
1) somebody thought about it (knowing the system has been around for
some time I'd expect somebody must have had the same problem)
2) there is any good reason why it behaves so.
Ruda
> remember, this is plan9 and everything is a file. chances are your
> "script" is already available in some filesystem and you don't need to
> write it out:: create a new window inside acme, type your awk script
> and then issue ">awk -f /mnt/wsys/X/body" where X is the ID of your
> window.
well,
> Put the awk code into a file and execute '> awk -f foo' in acme.
well, I hoped this would be the last way... It makes me create files I
don't actually need.
Is it the newlines that causes troubles?
Thanks
Ruda
Hello everyone,
when I want to process a dot's contents in acme I can use the '>' syntax, e.g.
have
> awk '{print}'
in a window, select it, and then 2-1 click on Edit in the window with
my dot. That works.
But what shall I do when the awk script is more complicated, in the
simplest case like
>
> should be written as:
> s = `{sam -d <[2] /dev/null}
>...
>EOF
>
> Hope that helps,
>Martin
OK, now I see. The } was at the wrong place...
Thanks Martin
thanks Russ, too.
Ruda
Hello,
Still wonder, what's the right way to make the following work:
This is ok:
sam -d <[2] /dev/null
1s/(.+)_g/\1
p
EOF
but now I want it all be inside `{}, like
s = `{sam -d <[2] /dev/null
1s/(.+)_g/\1
p
EOF
}
which doesn't work. I tri
> sed is your friend:
>
> s=`{ echo $i | sed -e 's/_g_b/_g/' }
>
>
> Martin
Oh yes, that's it.
Thanks
Ruda
Hello,
I realized I cannot come up with a simple solution for the following.
I want to rename all the files whose names end with _g_b to just _g,
e.g. hello_g_b should be renamed to hello_g.
I simply don't know an easy way.
[the opposite way is simple: for(i in *_g) mv $i $i^_b ]
I only think abou
> Probably you have already noticed it, but if the dirty mark annoys you
> can always select with 1 and use Snarf.
> - yiyus || JGL .
yes, I have, thanks anyway :)
r
Hello,
I've noticed two strange things about acme:
1) when I snarf the name (or a part of it) of a file with a mouse (in
the tag line) using 1-2, 1-3 mouse chord, the file is marked dirty. (I
think it should not.)
2) i) when I open a win window, 'win' appears in the topmost tag line
(if you open 2
Ok. It works so.
Thanks
Ruda
> If as a result of those operations, new text appears
> after the cursor output point, that text is sent to the
> shell running in the window (or whatever is reading
> from the console).
>
> Russ
Hello,
it is somehow unclear to me, what happens in a 'win' window when I
2-click 'Undo' or 'Redo' (I write it somewhere manually). Are some
commands processed again? (I happened to delete some text from the
window and thus had the idea to write 'Undo' and 2-click on it; sth.
happened, but I am pu
Hello,
when a rio window with 'rc' running inside is used for entering
commands it happens, after some time, that the amount of text is
excessively high. If the text in the window could be edited (I mean
not manually), then from time to time I could run some program that
would leave only the last
OK. So I changed the line
from
/dist/replica/contrib:7: fn servermount { 9fs sources }
to
/dist/replica/contrib:7: fn servermount { test -d /n/sources/plan9 ||
9fs sources }
and it seems to work as wanted...
thanks to all
Ruda
2009/5/27 Federico G. Benavento :
>> I think it would be better for
Thanks a lot!
Ruda
2009/5/26 Devon H. O'Dell :
> 2009/5/26 :
>> I've just pushed out to sources a new USB implementation, courtesy of
>> nemo, who debugged and repaired our old UHCI and OHCI drivers, wrote a
>> new EHCI driver for USB 2, converted the user-mode drivers in /bin/usb
>> and tested i
Hello,
since I somehow still can't connect to the 'central sources' and want
to make some progress, I tried to follow some of your recent advices.
Instead of '9fs sources' I do
9fs sources.lsub.org
cd /n
bind sources.lsub.org/sources sources
so now it seems I have the state similar to after just
Hello,
I wanted to install python. From /n/sources/contrib/bichued/python I downloaded
python-2.5.1-ape.tgz
python-2.5.1-sys.tgz.
I untared the former in my home directory.
I untared the latter in / (I got /sys/python created...) --- this I
read in README.Plan9 file in python-2.5.1-ape.tgz.
Als
> nobody's saying anything, so i will: a kfs system will be left in an
> "allowed" state if all the mirrors fail.
well, knowing little, having come late, perhaps, I do not understand...
Thanks
Ruda
> While not having direct knowledge of what caused the current outage, I
> can say that such outages are rarely caused by Plan 9 or the hardware
> on which its running.
Ok. So what caused the other outrages in the recent past?
(I may give at least one other date, on which I even asked the same
que
>> (why does this happen SO OFTEN?)
>
> warning: complaining about something you get for free is
> counter-productive. Unless, of course, you are also offering to help
> in some way.
>
> ron
well, maybe. Maybe not.
In order I be of any help I need to know why the hell this happens,
first. I know
Hello
when I try '9fs sources' I get a timeout establishing connection...
(all day today)
I guess it's not my problem, or is it?
Thanks
Ruda
(why does this happen SO OFTEN?)
Hello everyone,
I just realized there are no 'continue' and 'next' commands in rc. Is
there any way to e.g. quit the loop when one wants?
Thanks
Ruda
> You've got the cd implementation from label(1) loaded.
> In interactive mode, it echos escape codes that are
> supposed to update the label in your terminal window.
> Instead it wrote them to the redirected file.
>
> I changed label to write to /dev/tty explicitly, which should
> avoid this probl
2009/5/5 Anthony Sorace :
> // ];/home/sykora/CALC/doing/tests/10_r/-xeon4 10_r ...
>
> i think these are escape sequences generated by a defined 'cd'
> function containing awd. do "fn cd" before you run this to undefine
> the function and this should go away.
true.
thanks
ruda
2009/5/5 roger peppe :
> {for (i in *_r) @{cd $i; echo -n $i^' '; grep total otdit | grep -v na}} >
> res
>
with this I get the same as with
for (i in *_r) @{cd $i; echo -n $i^' '; grep total otdit | grep -v na} >> res
which is now reasonable, having read R. Cox' post.
Thanks
ruda
2009/5/5 Anthony Sorace
> what's surprising is that this behavior changed based on *only*
> changing the > to a >>. you're sure you didn't change placement as
> well? i'd have expected your output file in the > case to match the
> results for the last _r label from the output file in the >> case.
Hello everyone!
To get some useful information from a file I write:
; for (i in *_r) @{cd $i; echo -n $i^' '; grep total otdit | grep -v na}
to get lines from the 'otdit' files in *_r subdirectories with the
word 'total' on them, but no 'na' on them. This works to my liking and
produces sth. li
Hello everyone,
2 questions...
1)
The linux servers around me reject ssh v1 protocol by default, only
seem to accept v2. The version commonly available in plan9 seems to be
v1. As long as I connect to my own machine, where I allowed v1
connection, no problem. But is there any working v2 client?
I
Hello everyone,
just a question:
Playing with squeak smalltalk implementation I've wondered if there
could be squeak (with all its ready environment) ever running under
plan9. Has anybody thought about that?
... I've found seaside (web devel. framework) rather interesting. It's
more like program
Hello,
when using 'sam -d' to remotely edit files I really miss the option to
print line numbers along with lines, like ed's e.g. '1,10n'.
Is there anything like that? Why not?
Thanks
Ruda
2009/4/17 maht :
>
>> well, I haven't thought about it deeply yet, but what I guess could be
>> a problem with your approach is that many features would have to be
>> somehow implemented first so that it all be useable. I mean e.g. ajax
>> style of page content refresh, session management, perhaps
> Writing the core of a blog engine in three lines of rc is hard to
> beat, plus you get the benefit of being able to manipulate and manage
> all your data using the tools any self respecting Unix user loves.
>
> uriel
well, I haven't thought about it deeply yet, but what I guess could be
a proble
2009/4/17 maht :
>
How difficult would it be to use rails or merb in plan9? Is it feasible?
>
> Not Rails or merb or anything non Plan 9 but a few of us are building an rc
> shell based system that works anywhere CGI and Plan 9 / plan9port is
> available.
>
> http://werc.cat-v.org/
Yes, I've
>
>> How difficult would it be to use rails or merb in plan9? Is it feasible?
>
> Very difficult. No, not feasible. You would have to port Ruby. And
> then possibly rails, too. Plan 9 isn't UNIX, or UNIX-like, or POSIX
> (or POSIX-like). APE helps with some stuff, but not all the way.
I thought I'
Hello,
I've been wondering (and not reading much)...
If I'd like to use plan9 as a www server, is there anything ready?
How difficult would it be to use rails or merb in plan9? Is it feasible?
thanks
ruda
> Just curious... what's the relation to Cweb and Ctangle (the ones Knuth uses)?
>
> From what I've heard of those (even from Knuth himself) is that
> they're too ugly to use very much, and fits well with Knuth's style,
> which is mostly the "giant blob of code" style.
As far as I can tell, cweb (
Hello,
I've been thinking about 'well documented programs' and come across
the 'noweb' program.
Do you have any experience with literal programming and, particularly, noweb?
(I noticed at least rsc seems to have played with it back in the year
2000. He programmed some scripts to use the system in
2009/4/8 hugo rivera :
> In acme you can do something like
> Edit ,$-1d
> but I don't know how to deal with a terminal outside acme.
Well, this is true. In an editor you have the wings...
[Btw., also reading a man page is somewhat easier in an editor for me
since I can search in the text then, whi
2009/4/7 Francisco J Ballesteros :
> In omero double click does the same, and triple is more hungry. You could
> try that modifying your local system
That's a good idea. I'll try.
thanks
r
Hello,
Imagine I have a rio window with a long history, i.e. lots of text
have been entered and the scroll bar is just a tiny box. And I'd like
to clear everything, so that only the last prompt remains. I know I
can clear some portions with a mouse. But that is often tedious. Is
there any nice way
ok then. :)
r
> one man's `usually' is another man's `never'.
> it's one reason i use 9term on linux.
> we probably both say ``what were they thinking??'' about
> contrary effects.
Hello all
is there any good reason for a double click (in rio, sam, acme, ...)
to select a word (probably) defined by sth. like
/[a-zA-Z0-9_]+/
and not sth. white-space delimited instead?
Double clicking e.g. on 'text.txt' only selects 'text' or 'txt', while
one usually wants the whole. The same
Hello
after some time I crossed this matter again...
/old/c/new/
doesn't scroll to the dot where the change happens in neither sam nor acme.
My feeling is that it should. (Should there be any reason for
different behaviour compared to the situation when the command is
split as /old/ followed by c
Hello everybody,
I noticed there are some thoughts about using plan9 on supercomputers.
For me supercomputers are usually used to do some heavy calculations.
And this leads me to a question. What software is then used for
programming these calculations? (I mean e.g. linear algebra, i.e.
matrix, ca
ok. I tried what I said and it really works...
R
2009/3/11 Rudolf Sykora :
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to teach my plan9 read my Czech keyboard.
> But I don't know exactly what I have to change.
> I wonder if it's enough to modify e.g. /sys/lib/kbmap/us, save it to
>
Hello,
I'd like to teach my plan9 read my Czech keyboard.
But I don't know exactly what I have to change.
I wonder if it's enough to modify e.g. /sys/lib/kbmap/us, save it to
e.g. /sys/lib/kbmap/qwerty_cz and then use kbmap(1) command to switch
to it.
If so, I'd need to know more exactly what the
well, probably there is none such, sorry... :)
R
2009/3/9 Rudolf Sykora :
>> I think the attached patch is what you are proposing. If you apply it,
>> --
>> - yiyus || JGL .
>>
>
> Sorry for the question, but how can I apply the patch you sent?
> I mean, havin
> I think the attached patch is what you are proposing. If you apply it,
> --
> - yiyus || JGL .
>
Sorry for the question, but how can I apply the patch you sent?
I mean, having the file with the patch and the file to be changed,
what command is to be performed?
thanks
R
Thank you
R
2009/3/8 yy :
> 2009/3/4 roger peppe :
>> personally, i think that Put should work on any non-application
>> window, and that re-columnation should only take place if
>> the textual content hasn't been modified by the user. (and
>> probably also that if you change the name of a window
It really seems that acme-sac does save in the described way (at least
it saves). That makes me wonder. Do plan9 acme, p9p acme and acme-sac
have more similar differences? Are the programs separate in their
development?
Thanks
Ruda
> personally, i think that Put should work on any non-application
> if on the other hand you try to modify the name of a directory
> listing frame, the tag line box is not filled. this is a hint
> that you're doing something wrong. also there is no Put option.
> this is a bigger hint that you're doing something wrong.
You may call it a hint. I noticed the 'Put
> i disagree with your premise that only vim has the vigor to
> modify your super special file. all you need is f and f*.
> f transforms your source into something easy to edit in acme.
> f* transforms it back into the original form. easy peasy.
> or, you can write a simple program that edits the
> this is plan 9. we don't ask if new feature
> x would not cause a problem, we ask if x
> would make plan 9 a better system.
well, no-one disputes the claim, if you read twice.
> i'm
> quite sure one would be wrong in assuming
> that plan 9's designers did not know about
> repetition. i think
> "Sam and Acme use a simple, pure form of regular expressions. If they
> had the counting operations, this would be a trivial task, but to add
> them would open the door to the enormous, ill-conceived complexity of
> (no longer) regular expressions as the open source community thinks of
> them."
>
> Because at the beginning of the put function in exec.c you have:
> if(et==nil || et->w==nil || et->w->isdir)
> return;
> and et->w->isdir is true. But there are workarounds if you want to
> save the contents of the window.
Well, I had some text in in-this-way created window
Hello
I am running p9p acme. I open a directory, so in the tag line I have
sth. ending with '/' and in the window I have the list of files in
that directory. Now I go to the tag line and append a name, say 'a',
to the existing path, i.e. now I have there e.g. '/home/ruda/a'. Then
I write Put somew
2009/3/4 Rob Pike :
> Not all the features adapt as easily.
>
> -rob
By counted repetittion I've always meant just the mentioned, i.e.
{n}
{n,}
{,m}
{n,m}
.
What feature do you have on mind?
Thanks
Ruda
> Sam and Acme use a simple, pure form of regular expressions. If they
> had the counting operations, this would be a trivial task, but to add
> them would open the door to the enormous, ill-conceived complexity of
> (no longer) regular expressions as the open source community thinks of
> them.
I
> Using a text editor to manipulate files with lines that are thousands
> of words long seems like a not very good idea to me.
1st : I don't see why. I had a feeling there was some tendency (at
least R Pike could have one) not to look at a file as on a list of
lines, but as on a linear stream of b
> s//\n/g
> .-0+1000
> u
> Russ
Either I don't understand or this can't help me much. It's true that I
can see the 1000th word with this, but I need to edit that word then.
Just seeing it is not enough. The very same word can be on the very
line many times.
Anyway the idea is quite the same as of
Thanks for the suggestions. Basically you propose breaking the line
into many lines, navigate using lines, edit, and then go back. That's
possible and manageable.
There is probably no need for having sth simple for this particular
task, however, generally thinking about it, being able to repeat
ei
> It's horribly inelegant, but I have occasionally done the following:
> Suppose I want to repeat the command xyz 64 times. I type xyz,
> snarf it and paste it three times. Then I snarf the lot of them,
> and paste three times. Then I snarf that and paste three times.
> Ugly as hell, but it does
> I would do it with awk myself, Much depends on what you want to
> do to the 1000'th word on the line.
Say I really want to get there, so that I can manually edit the place.
Ruda
Hello,
I just had to edit a file which has very long lines having >1000
'words' seperated e.g. with a TAB character. I had to find say 1000th
word on such a line.
In vim, it's easy. You use '1000W' command and there you are.
Can the same be achieved in sam/acme? The main problem for me is the
rep
thanks!
R
> Heh, I'm doing both of the suggestions in this thread, with a wrapper script:
> http://sqweek.dnsdojo.org/plan9/acme
> -sqweek
Hello,
what needs to be done in order to be able to run two acme programs?
When I try to run it twice I get
9pserve: announce unix!/tmp/ns.ruda.:0/acme: Address already in use
acme: can't post service: 9pserve failed
Thanks
Ruda
2009/1/28 Francisco J Ballesteros :
> Try to see if you can list #U
I can list #U, I get many items listed.
> If you can't that's the problem.
> You also need kbin. Perhaps looking at /dev/drivers is easier to see
> if you have both.
Looking in the /dev/drivers file I again can see #U. I can't s
2009/1/28 Francisco J Ballesteros :
> The mouse if it's USB and you have a kernel with USB. Is that the case?
The mouse is a usb one for sure.
I believe the kernel is with USB, but how can I say for sure?
R
> Did you try with usb/kb ?
> Does it have problems handling your mouse?
>
> In general, usbstart should do the thing for you.
Well, now I am booted to windows, being at home. When I reboot to
plan9 I have neither a mouse nor the internet connection. So I can
only reply from windows and any attemp
2009/1/16 Rudolf Sykora :
> Hello list,
>
> --- so is there any place where I could read how to set up my usb
> mouse, step by step? (As I mentioned, now my touchpad works but mouse
> -- Genius NetScroll EYE/USB -- does not.)
>
> --- whatabout sound? Does anybody have Realt
Hello list,
--- so is there any place where I could read how to set up my usb
mouse, step by step? (As I mentioned, now my touchpad works but mouse
-- Genius NetScroll EYE/USB -- does not.)
--- whatabout sound? Does anybody have Realtek AC97 audio working?
--- Video Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME ---
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