On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 at 10:09, Edouard Klein wrote:
> I love it when I discover that something down on my todo-list has
> already been done, [ ...
> ... ]
> > https://9p.io/wiki/plan9/divergefs/
It's been done *twice*: https://git.sr.ht/~kvik/unionfs
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> Another interesting project would be seeing if it could be
> modified to work as a 64-bit binary but still running a 32-bit environment
> on the inside...
https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/papers/vx32:usenix08/#:~:text=The%20recent%2064,bit%20host%20application.
This needs to happen. I'd use it.
> That scroll button nonsense is a function of the Windows driver. On all
> Thinkpads the buttons present as a normal three-button mouse, with
> left, middle, and right-click. Using a better operating system, or
> failing to install the Trackpoint drivers, leads to normal
> functionality.
I'm
On 01/02/2022, Ben Hancock wrote:
> as well but have yet to become adept at the trackpoint. Do you find
> you're able to sweep lines as easily using it in acme as with a physical
> mouse?
A trackpoint isn't a real three-button mouse by Acme's standards. "A
real three-button mouse" is something
On 01/01/2022, vic.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> I am simply grateful to see Plan 9 (4th edition),... and other distributions
> have an
> open-source license. There is comfort knowing we can modify and create.
And the older stuff, since to my knowledge it wasn't otherwise
available. Space war
On 29/12/2021, Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> 9front wiki has some too, for example: http://wiki.9front.org/unix2plan9
Needs chgrp for chown.
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On 30/09/2021, vic.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> As it is a 9front specific question, you might consider posting to the
> 9front mailing list.
No, he's talking about
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On 06/09/2021, Paul Lalonde wrote:
> It does look like this would need raw mouse state to get the DX/Dy data
> instead of absolute screen positions.
You could detect when it's at the edge, make it invisible (as
screenlock does), make it visible (on the box that doesn't have the
mouse plugged
On 06/09/2021, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> To be clear, the discussion is about sharing a Plan 9 term's
> mouse/keyboard with non-Plan 9 machines/displays.
I know. See previous post.
> The usual way is to layer file-servers to build up the namespace that
> you need.
I know.
> The extended
On 04/09/2021, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> it's worth doing the plan9 specific protocol anyway.
> mainly bec. it could be very simple to implement, between multiple
> plan9, given that /dev/mouse is already network transparent.
I can't think how Plan 9 would work as a server (as in, the
On 22/08/2021, Eli Cohen wrote:
> deep learning is another interest of mine too. hardware support is a
> big deal for that... some kind of support for GPUs would be nice.
> people have discussed that for years... hardware drivers are difficult
> and important to do correctly!
There's virtio_gpu,
> No. The base system would then have two completely different ways to set font.
Although looking up the font is pretty centralised (in initdraw) so
who actually cares what the specific mechanism is.
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On 18/08/2021, Keith Gibbs wrote:
> Hell, there are cool things I wish were 9front [unless they were snuck in],
> like some of sigrid's keyboard system tweaks and theming hacks.
No. The base system would then have two completely different ways to set font.
On 11/08/2021, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
> /sys/doc/net/net.pdf
Heads up: spends alot of time on STREAMS, which are not a part of Plan 9.
The FQA also links to that paper with no such forewarning.
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On 06/08/2021, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
> man 6 regexp: http://man.9front.org/6/regexp
I wonder if it would be good if libregexp itself could look for a
fixed string the way Plan 9 grep does: '*foo' is foo.
I've found myself wanting this in Mothra. Can't remember the
circumstance. It might be
> Have you seen ptrap(4) in 9front?
Yes, Ori mentioned it in 0intro, the Plan 9 podcast
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You'll need to reinvent (or change, at least) plumbing if you want
multiple editors, be it one
per file or one per project.
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On 18/01/2021, Mack Wallace wrote:
> the Caps Lock and Num Lock keys not functioning. (The caps lock acts like a
> control key, num-lock does nothing - I presume it’s a mapping issue).
Yeah, they're not supposed to work; see keyboard(6). I don't know the reason;
either someone just didn't like
Might as well note here that the USB on the CM4 is the USB-C on the
4B. A found (just now) forum thread confirms that the CM4 actually
has an XHCI and just doesn't expose it at all. Nothing on this in the
datasheet.
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Try copying the .dtb *and* the start4 and fixup4.
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On 29/12/2020, sirjofri wrote:
> ori's new filesystem
What's this? and why is it needed? Hjfs already fixes the worst thing
about cwfs already (needing to copy files from one partition to
another on the same disk).
Though speaking of new file servers, the Irssi /upgrade trick would be
good to
If you're using the 9front userspace you might want to throw the
9front kernel's port directory at 9vx and rebuild (I haven't tried
this). Not that that has anything to do with your current problem.
I wonder why it says DHCP failed instead of no success with DHCP.
Can't help you with the tun/tap
> Is this lightning bolt a hardware feature? Like, it overlays it on the
> display, even on Plan 9?
Well yes, but actually no:
https://ownyourbits.com/2019/02/02/whats-wrong-with-the-raspberry-pi/
There's an OS involved.
Also I ordered a 1GB compute module without thinking of this thread.
a.k.a. twitalics
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re: Ori. I understood OP to be talking about doing a new, phone-specific UI.
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> then we have a hardware line capable of running it
There was never any reason why whoever wanted to do phone stuff
couldn't just run 9vx on those Atom phones from Lenovo.
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I take back the stuff where a directory can be a command - it interacts weird
with $path:
you’d do `..’ thinking it’s the same as `cd ..’, except it’s actually `cd
/bin/..’.
> is there a buildable version of es any longer?
I just found
http://wryun.github.io/es-shell/
I’ve never
> I just wanted the shell, not the whole thing
You should post it to suckless. I recall a thread years ago discussing what
the ‘official’ shell of the suckless project ought to be. Rc went completely
unmentioned for at least about half of the thread, although they can’t
possibly have been
> feature i would ove: something equiv to a PS1 line so i know what
> folder i'm in. Can I do that with $prompt?
IIRC, with es you can get persistent history, and control your prompts
with arbitrarily complex logic, all without building stuff into
/bin/es. You can do it with es code in esmain or
The guy in front of the console should authenticate as a normal user
But you do authenticate to Plan 9 as a normal user. On one node you're
the hostowner, but to the *system* you authenticate as a normal user.
One guy on here lately was actually attaching to his fileserver as
none.
A system is
The way most congruent with the system might be to have $font a
2-variable (like prompt), to have you favourite fixed- and
variable-width fonts both settable in the obvious place: your profile.
Completely unrelated programs could conceivably reuse this trick.
Tip: Any time someone says read auth.ps, take it to mean read
nauth.pdf; auth.ps; nauth.pdf, where nauth.pdf is the slides at
swtch.com
In others words, read overview; details; summary.
I find the auth stuff to be some of the harder stuff to fully
understand, the existence of this thread
substfs, trfs
On 24/02/2013, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote:
i think you're misunderstanding what private namespaces do,
Fuck, yes. Sorry. The idea seemed so perfect in my mind, and so
obvious that it didn't seem necessary to actually test it.
but rather than explain why nobody else can
Sorry. What I meant was that rc's already-open file descriptors for
the pipefile'd file aren't affected by the bind, so for an rc to be
affected you need to run a new one. I saw this as being analogous to
how it sees environment variables.
I'm not interested in environment variables anyway,
So I read in New Scientist one time that being awake for more than a
certain amount of hours is the same as being lightly drunk.
I shouldn't be on the Internet at all really right now.
On 12/19/12, Luke Evans luke.ev...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm sure I could search all the sources for various examples of such
things, but does anybody know of a good (preferably concise) sample
that demonstrates the correct way to write GUI apps in Plan 9?
Russ Cox had a page full of trivial
On 12/19/12, Dustin Fechner d...@hush.com wrote:
Do you mean this site?
http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/~rsc/plan9.html
Yep, click.c was the one I was thinking of specifically. I remember
reading that - I was a C virgin at the time, I knew C but was never
really brave enough to try it before I got
Perfit mouse. I've never used one or anything, but it's what the
thread asks for.
http://www.contourdesign.com/
stuart
On 4/13/10, tlaro...@polynum.com tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
- se d(1) does not support single character duplication : \{m,n\}---I
Just to clarify, it's Plan9's libregexp that doesn't support {n,m} quantifiers.
stuart
On 3/21/10, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
What's interesting to me about this is that
I can not imagine even attempting this on any other os or windowing
system. It was just too easy on Plan 9 however.
ron
so, are you basically saying that linux is a complex operating system,
and it
On 3/16/10, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote:
Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might
have just what we needed for the 9phone.
I'm been using the same phone since 2003 - the only phone I've ever owned -
so I obviously don't care (or know) much about smart
On 3/17/10, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote:
as to hardware/software: i'm often struck at how badly hardware
designers still misunderstand how the software will want to see things,
and not just on things like the openmoko.
I'm often struck at how badly software designers still
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote:
The multi-touch stuff added to plan9ports to make the Apple Magic
Mouse work is really nice; I confess I didn't really believe Russ when he
described it as feeling natural, but it does. It's pretty easy to forget
about
On 2/17/10, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote:
And another important feature of shared libraries is, that when
some lib is updated, importing programs dont have to be recompiled.
What's the Plan9 solution here ?
We recompile the relevant executables.
also, plan 9 uses filesystems for many
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