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I'd certainly be happy to give it a good home if nobody else has claimed it. digby...@gmail.com if you want to discuss logistics off the list... Digby. On 2 April 2018 at 16:27, Steve Simon wrote: > Hi, > > I am in the Uk, and moving house. > > t have an HP T5325 Thin

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Hi, I am in the Uk, and moving house. t have an HP T5325 Thin client which uses the same Marvel chipset as the guruplug. http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5325/index.shtml Someone got as far as getting one to net boot plan9 but didn't (If I remember correctly) get the graphics working.

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I don't know if this is such common knowledge that nobody has bothered to mention it (please tell me either way), but much of that is now at http://9p.io/ http://9p.io/plan9/index.html and a newer one ? https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/belllabs-microsite-plan9/plan9.html was

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What's this? https://plan9.io/ On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Joseph Stewart wrote: > Someone (not me) should make a 9p to S3 service and put all the goodies > there. > -joe > > On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Steve Simon wrote: > >> I found the

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Someone (not me) should make a 9p to S3 service and put all the goodies there. -joe On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Steve Simon wrote: > I found the old addresses here: > > https://dnshistory.org > > plan9.bell-labs.com was 204.178.31.16 > and sources.cs.bell-labs.com was

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I found the old addresses here: https://dnshistory.org plan9.bell-labs.com was 204.178.31.16 and sources.cs.bell-labs.com was 204.178.31.32 Both gone too, its not just DNS. I think it has fallen off its perch, it is are pine-ing for the fjords, it is an ex OS research group. -Steve

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I haven't tried for a few weeks but sources.cs.bell-labs.com has gone (from DNS), I don't know about the server behind it as I never kept a record of the IP address. has the labs server gone for good? (RIP). The entire cs.bell-labs.com domain is gone. And given that bell-labs.com has now

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Hi, I haven't tried for a few weeks but sources.cs.bell-labs.com has gone (from DNS), I don't know about the server behind it as I never kept a record of the IP address. has the labs server gone for good? (RIP). -Steve

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I've been grateful for the nightly vac jobs I've had going for the last several years of sources lately, though admittedly it was only for my tiny corner of contrib. On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Steve Simon wrote: > Hi, > > I haven't looked for a while, but

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Hi, I haven't looked for a while, but http://plan9.bell-labs.com has gone, and http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/ is broken - /usr/web/plan9/sources.html has disappeared from the web server. Is there anyone left at the labs who might be able to fix at least the web access to sources, it does

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On Fri, 02 Dec 2016 11:44:52 GMT "Steve Simon" wrote: > Hi all, > > Anyone have some small and neat code (in C) to parse ISO8601 date/time > notation with all its glorious options? > > Its not hard to write, but it would be time consuming to test all the varients > so if

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Hi all, Anyone have some small and neat code (in C) to parse ISO8601 date/time notation with all its glorious options? Its not hard to write, but it would be time consuming to test all the varients so if anyone has some code, or knows of some in /sys/src that I have missed, please tell me.

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Subject change to ether Yuk driver for 88E8036 I noticed the 9fans reopen now. I tried this mail at June 16, 2016, but failed... I'd like to announce this to all, particulary eric. I posted a mail to 9fans, but I don't have received that mail, so retries it to this mailing-list. I asked the

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Hello everyone. I'm curious about the behavior of rc concatenating null strings (brakes execution on error...). It's a feature, rationally thought-out, or a bug? If anyone can tell me the story behind, I'll be grateful. trebol.

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Subkject: A68-N5000 cabini motherboard I got it functional partially. This is for energy-saving motherboard with APU (15W TDP) on it without coolong fan. I just moved the HDD used on a C2D machine to this box, where it booted successfully with only one problem, ether chip. The ether chip on

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Subjecxt: how to change login user on 9pi? I tried to change the /n/9fat/cmdline.txt file to readparts=1 nobootprompt=local user=kokamoto. Now I can login as kokamoto. Then I'd like to make ask the login name at boottime. How I can change it? Year! Now I'm a network user of 9pi. I got

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The ones that have bitten me have been ed, du and ls. I fixed cleanname not to restamp the terminating zero on the string if its already there which makes cleanname(.) work (for ls). du's problem is wrapped in String.h issues and I haven't dug any more. ed is exactly as you say. I assumed the

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Subject p9p and writable strings Anyone built p9p recently, how do you cope with modern gcc which now places all string constants in a readonly section in the executable, and there is nolonger an option to prevent it. the two main offenders I have found so far are mktemp() and cleanname(). In

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what are the programs passing string constants? only found: ed.c:160: tfname = mktemp(/tmp/eX); all the other programs copy the template in a buffer before passing it to mktemp(). i think it would be better to just fix ed no? -- cinap

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In my experience a VESA BIOS will sometimes report different available modes depending on the detected EDID. I have no problem believing this is true, but I'm also sure there's more to it than that. I agree. One problem is that these things are all different, almost completely

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Hi, I have got hold of a new 1920x1200 monitor but no card I can find seems to support it on plan9 - Even cards that claim this resolution and higher don't have the vesa mode entry. Anyone any thoughts, or suggestions of cards that do have the apropriate high resolution VESA modes? Thanks,

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I'd love to hear about positive results here. Cards with VESA entries for non-4:3 modes are rare; I'm not sure I've ever seen one. The Pi, by contrast, drives my 16:10 high-res monitor without issues, which is the main reason it's my main Plan 9 terminal these days. Anthony signature.asc

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I have got hold of a new 1920x1200 monitor but no card I can find seems to support it on plan9 - Even cards that claim this resolution and higher don't have the vesa mode entry. Anyone any thoughts, or suggestions of cards that do have the apropriate high resolution VESA modes? as anthony

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On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: Cards with VESA entries for non-4:3 modes are rare; I'm not sure I've ever seen one. On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:50 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: and vesa bioses don't typicall provide em. Funny, I have 10+

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Funny, I have 10+ machines that all use vesa, all widescreen. I have never seen a vesa BIOS that didn't provide widescreen modes. I'm sure they exist, but they certainly are not rare. I drive 1920x1200x32 with vesa and Cinap's realemu just fine. my experience has been similar to anthony's. i

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In my experience a VESA BIOS will sometimes report different available modes depending on the detected EDID. The following cards reported the following modes when the following EDIDs were detected: --- 1.0.0: vid 03.00.00 1106/3344 11 0:f008 67108864 1:f400 16777216 VIA

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thanks for the confirmation! - erik

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Hello, the result below is on one of my machine with GA-H61M-USB3H. the MB is nice with 9front. maia% @{rfork n; aux/realemu; aux/vga -p}|grep '^vesa mode' vesa mode 0x107 1280x1024x8 m8 packed vesa mode 0x11a 1280x1024x16 r5g6b5 direct vesa mode 0x11b

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In my experience a VESA BIOS will sometimes report different available modes depending on the detected EDID. I have no problem believing this is true, but I'm also sure there's more to it than that. The device I'm most frustrated with is a Thinkpad, reporting on the built-in display, for

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In my experience a VESA BIOS will sometimes report different available modes depending on the detected EDID. I have no problem believing this is true, but I'm also sure there's more to it than that. I agree. One problem is that these things are all different, almost completely

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:51:37 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: since you mention the host's hardware, i'm a little confused. the host's hardware doesn't make any difference. it's drawterm's bridge between #A and the host's audio device that's the question. has someone done this for os-x? if so,

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On Sat Mar 15 19:27:44 EDT 2014, jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: Audio worked with hiro's drawterm and intel hda in 9front. since you mention the host's hardware, i'm a little confused. the host's hardware doesn't make any difference. it's drawterm's bridge between #A and the host's audio device

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Subject Drawterm windows audio? Anyone added an audio driver to windows or osx drawterms? -Steve

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Audio worked with hiro's drawterm and intel hda in 9front.

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It’s on the back burner for osx. Well, maybe the storage bin waiting for a sifter. -jas On Mar 15, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: Subject Drawterm windows audio? Anyone added an audio driver to windows or osx drawterms? -Steve

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Subject i2c and gpio I need an i2c driver for plan9, anyone implemented one in the past and have opinions on what they should look like? I have to revisit some old code but I wrote a driver for another OS which implemeted 255 virtual files in /dev/i2c/* one for each possible address (well there

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what would be helpful, and move the discussion forward, is if someone could try to replicate this with unclean shutdowns after various file operations. i suspect that it won't repeat. but either way, it will move the discussion forward. For what it's worth, unclean shutdowns resulted in

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Subject Sheevaplug and NVRAM Every time I start the Sheevaplug, I have to enter the authentication details that ought to be written to VNRAM. This seems unnecessary, but my attempts to assign a single block of flash to NVRAM have so far been unsuccessful. Could somebody mail me an example of a

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subect: update:V: in system mkfiles Many system mkfiles have targets like this: update:V: update $UPDATEFLAGS $UPDATE These're no program named 'update' however — besides pc/update which doesn't seem to apply here. Could somebody please advise what these are meant for? Is it still

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it's a shell script that copies updated files from a Bell Labs system to sources.

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hi, I try to mount the local foler in the vm, use the 9p protocol, it mount success, enter the foler, i can read and write the files already in the folder ,but can't create new folders and files in it. why and how can i solve it? i created the vm use qemu -fsdev

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erik quanstrom wrote: for me, the most important questions are - how do i set up a raid/hot spares, and - can i do this without rebooting. Of course, and right now I'm doing exactly that using a different operating system. Can I do that on Plan 9? I don't know, I'm trying to find out without

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the motivation behind my question is that it's not clear to me that there is such a thing as pure hardware raid.  if someone knows of something that implements the entire read/write path without a cpu, even with a degraded or rebuilding raid, i'd be very interested in that. Ahh, I see what

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(see wiki's raid article.) Plan 9 wiki? It mentions SiL 3112 SATA, 3114 SATA/RAID and VIA 82C686, VT8237 SATA/RAID, strangely, under IDE section. I haven't found yet relevant information about the SiL stuff, but the VIA stuff is what Adaptec calls HostRAID and Linux fakeRAID. wikipedia.

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It might be a bit much for home use, but if I had a little bit of a budget I'd use Coraid's AoE stuff as the basis for my storage. Yeah, it's pretty overkill. I've previously worked at a storage company as a file system guy and now I have at home a nice array with ZFS on top. It

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On 12/30/2011 12:08 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: It might be a bit much for home use, but if I had a little bit of a budget I'd use Coraid's AoE stuff as the basis for my storage. Yeah, it's pretty overkill. I've previously worked at a storage company as a file system guy and now I have at home

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I don't think he was implying that one needed the other. In any case I figured I would ask -- are there any plans for a small scale AoE appliance from coraid? Didn't there used to be a single drive AoE kit long ago? there was once a single drive pata unit. What is the list's

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aoe doesn't require solaris, or any other operating system. you can use it directly with a plan 9 file server, as i do. Of course AoE doesn't require much, my comment was in the context of Coraid's hardware appliance. I don't have much use for AoE at home. At one point I used it to network

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My fileserver is running freebsd zfs. Basically one machine for nfs, venti, cifs, timemachine + sundry other services. This has worked well since 2005. Initially I used h/w raid under zfs. This was a mistake, forcibly corrected when my machine died. Now I use raidz. Since then I have replaced

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I don't have much use for AoE at home. At one point I used it to network boot machines, but I only have laptops now, which have local disks because I need to use them disconnected from the network sometimes. I need a higher level protocol like 9p or venti, and I'd rather have a single

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Could you do the latter without taking the machine down? On 30 December 2011 21:28, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: Since then I have replaced disks with much bigger disks without taking the machine down, upgraded the os zpool/zfs versions a couple of times

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Charles Forsyth wrote: Since then I have replaced disks with much bigger disks without taking the machine down, upgraded the os zpool/zfs versions a couple of times Could you do the latter without taking the machine down? Upgrade zpool/zfs version yes, os, no. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

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On 12/30/2011 3:05 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: Does the Coraid applience implement RAID in hardware or does it use fs(3) or another software solution? if a coraid appliance were pcie-attached rather than ethernet attached, would you still ask this question? do you think the block diagram of

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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:34:39 GMT Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: Could you do the latter without taking the machine down? On 30 December 2011 21:28, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: Since then I have replaced disks with much bigger disks without taking the

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zpool/zfs upgrade? Yes. Don't recall if I had to reboot afterwards. You don't. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

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That's upgrading the stored formats, not the in-kernel(?) software support for a particular version? On 30 December 2011 21:56, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: zpool/zfs upgrade? Yes. Don't recall if I had to reboot afterwards. You don't. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

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On 2011-12-30, at 14:41 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: That's upgrading the stored formats, Yes. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

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if a coraid appliance were pcie-attached rather than ethernet attached, would you still ask this question?  do you think the block diagram of coraid hardware looks fundamentally different than the block diagram of a raid card? It's just curiosity. I know the appliance is Plan 9 based.

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Subject factotum auth for commodity web browsers? Hi, I have a distant memory of somone talking about adding factotum support to mozilla or firefox, but I can nolonger fine a reference - did I imagine it? Is there such a thing for p9p perhaps? -Steve

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Subject rfork N I want to construct a new namespace for an app, including a new root dir. I was hoping to do this with a few lines of script starting with rfork N, however this seems to be a dead end. I can still access kernel devices directly using the # escape in filenames, which includes

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On Tue Aug 9 08:41:44 EDT 2011, st...@quintile.net wrote: Subject rfork N I want to construct a new namespace for an app, including a new root dir. I was hoping to do this with a few lines of script starting with rfork N, however this seems to be a dead end. I can still access kernel

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don't you just want rfork Nm? I don't think so, that is worse, this would really mean I couldn't mount anything. I don't mind the new app adding mounts if it wants to, but I want it to start with a new root dir and children, so I need to flush out the old namespace. the problem is as soon as I

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From: Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan vdharani@gma... Subject: suggestion for a video card Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:53:58 -0700 hi, i am looking for a video card for plan9. here are my requirements: - should do 1920x1080 at 60Hz so i can connect to my LCD TV via HDMI - HDMI connector

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I don't manage 1920x1080 but I do get 1600x1200x16 from my NVidia GeForce2 MX-200. This card is old but its what is in the machine and its works. I must say lots of pixels makes a very nice interface. -Steve

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On Mon Apr 25 03:43:36 EDT 2011, st...@quintile.net wrote: I don't manage 1920x1080 but I do get 1600x1200x16 from my NVidia GeForce2 MX-200. This card is old but its what is in the machine and its works. I must say lots of pixels makes a very nice interface. i thought i responded to this.

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On Mon Mar 28 08:07:44 EDT 2011, st...@quintile.net wrote: looks like your web server (quanstro.net) is down. yes, we had a big thunderstorm come by and knock out power for 4 hrs. we had a strike close enough to the house to blow up lightbulbs and shoot flames out of sockets shortly after

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so the front fell off? -- cinap ---BeginMessage--- On Mon Mar 28 08:07:44 EDT 2011, st...@quintile.net wrote: looks like your web server (quanstro.net) is down. yes, we had a big thunderstorm come by and knock out power for 4 hrs. we had a strike close enough to the house to blow up

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Erik, sounds like you need a motor generator ... flames from outlets ... wow ... maybe some opto isolators with a 2 meter air gap too :-) ron

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On Mon Mar 28 11:20:39 EDT 2011, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: Erik, sounds like you need a motor generator ... flames from outlets ... wow ... maybe some opto isolators with a 2 meter air gap too :-) evidently the strike was closer to the neighbors. they lost all their major appliances, and a

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has anyone using cifs/aquarela had the chance to try nfactotum with either with the mschap protocol? (you will need the latest version of nfactotum to have any hope of success.) - erik

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- erik

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POSIX is a standard in which hardly anyone actually adheres too. AIX POSIX is not Solaris POSIX is not Linux POSIX etc. What good is a standard that isn't truthfully standardised. Alas I will say that POSIX does add quite a bit more cross platfom conformity than some other... things... but there a

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Thing is, It's autoconf that needs careful redesign s/redesign/annihilation/ Yes, but even if everybody were to switch to Linux/386 as the only available platform, there would remain a niche for something like autoconf, programmers just don't change habits very quickly. The trick is to make

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-Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of lu...@proxima.alt.za Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 11:58 PM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] (no subject) Agreed wholeheartedly. Thing is, It's autoconf that needs careful

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no. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Patrick Kelly kameo76...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of lu...@proxima.alt.za Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 11:58 PM To: 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] (no subject

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Thing is, It's autoconf that needs careful redesign: The question is, why should I care about that all? I have mk(1) and I really don't need more to build software on Plan9 (rc, awk/sed, etc. come in handy). You seem to insist on alien software, why is porting software from lunix a prefered

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You seem to insist on alien software, why is porting software from lunix a prefered solution? Most of the solutions are a.) either to problems we don't even have or b.) so awkward in interfacing you just end up writing a native fork anyway. That's simple pragmatism. Using Plan 9 without

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And there just aren't enough Plan 9 developers to produce alternatives. Then there cannot possibly be enough to port the auto* abortion.

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On Mon Mar 8 13:04:41 EST 2010, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: You seem to insist on alien software, why is porting software from lunix a prefered solution? Most of the solutions are a.) either to problems we don't even have or b.) so awkward in interfacing you just end up writing a native

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lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: That's simple pragmatism. Using Plan 9 without some of the Open Source stuff is hard at least for some of us. And there just aren't enough Plan 9 developers to produce alternatives. Considering the number of useful (if poorly implemented) Open Source tools out

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Then there cannot possibly be enough to port the auto* abortion. I hope so too, that would be insane. But there ought to be a sane alternative and it should not be anywhere as complex. I'm sorry I put the NetBSD package system in the same basket as the autoconf stuff, their relationship is

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What tools do you have in mind? This can be true for useful projects but it is not the case with Autotools, because it is properly implemented as a useless tool. No, I do not have the autotools in mind, I share the prevalent dislike for them. Just to clarify, I use dot, fgb has ported both

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But there ought to be a sane alternative and it should not be anywhere as complex. There is: it's called POSIX.

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On Tue Mar 9 00:27:59 EST 2010, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: But there ought to be a sane alternative and it should not be anywhere as complex. There is: it's called POSIX. surely your joking, mr. nerenberg! - erik

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surely your joking, mr. nerenberg! Nope. Over the past 10 years I can only think of one or two projects I did that required platform-specific optimizations outside of POSIX.

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My gripe here is that it is hard to track what has been ported and what hasn't and repetition isn't helpful. grep something /n/sources/lsr ?

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My gripe here is that it is hard to track what has been ported and what hasn't and repetition isn't helpful. grep something /n/sources/lsr ? I wasn't aware of an lsr, but I don't think that's it, really. One needs more than a file name in many instances. If I had infinite free resources at

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We have fgb's contrib, and before that just the INDEX files in / contrib on sources. Neither is a perfect solution, but I don't think the problem here would be addressed by the Labs providing some new resource. Between the above and the wiki, there's plenty of opportunity for folks to make

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On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: We have fgb's contrib, and before that just the INDEX files in /contrib on sources. we've got fgb's wonderful program and I think we're crazy if we don't build on that. Or we're CADT. ron

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we've got fgb's wonderful program and I think we're crazy if we don't build on that. Or we're CADT. haven't you heard? we're not allowed to do anything for ourselves anymore. the mythical (and god like) Library Writers do this for us. our job is to glue things together and port:

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We have fgb's contrib, and before that just the INDEX files in / contrib on sources. Neither is a perfect solution, but I don't think the problem here would be addressed by the Labs providing some new resource. Between the above and the wiki, there's plenty of opportunity for folks to

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Fgb's contrib sounds very good, I have not had occasion to try it but I presume it retains the scattered nature of the contrib directory. [...] I'm looking at the problem from the single perspective of how it's done in NetBSD. really? you haven't even tried it and your trying to fit it into

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really? you haven't even tried it and your trying to fit it into a whatever-netbsd-does shoebox? Well, I do have some idea on how fgb's contrib is meant to work and, yes, I do look at it from a biased perspective :-) Surely you don't think that is implicitly flawed logic? After all, how

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we've got fgb's wonderful program and I think we're crazy if we don't build on that. A deserved compliment, certainly. Now to figure how to provide the grouping I believe is required in addition to the means for replication. And, if I'm not being stupid, some facility to make sure that the

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if you're installing all unix-plan 9 ports, perhaps you would be happer running unix in the first place. That's flawed logic: I may need dot, while you need curses. It's nice if both have been blessed. ++L

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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:09 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: we've got fgb's wonderful program and I think we're crazy if we don't build on that. A deserved compliment, certainly.  Now to figure how to provide the grouping I believe is required in addition to the means for replication.  And,

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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:42 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: We have fgb's contrib, and before that just the INDEX files in / contrib on sources. Neither is a perfect solution, but I don't think the problem here would be addressed by the Labs providing some new resource. Between the above and

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Wouldn't grouping be a matter of placing a category file in the package? I'm reading grouping as the kind of divisions you get in Ports, i.e. net, editor, util, language, etc. Thing is, the port hierarchy (hereto I used NetBSD package system for the same concept) provides both the hierarchical

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That's flawed logic: I may need dot, while you need curses. It's nice if both have been blessed. bless a curse! jehova! -- cinap

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while at it, run contrib/gui. when a package is duplicated, it should be clear from the package list on the left. Suppression of duplication is incidental. What I believe is missing from sources is a simple mechanism to see if something I'm already somewhat familiar with has been ported

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