>> Already done. The inferno distribution contains, in /utils, all
>> the Plan 9 xa, xc, xl (for x in [012568kv]) compilable by gcc.
>
> Would this be possible to use for a cross compiler with a Plan9
> target?
This *is* a cross compiler with a Plan 9 target. It generates
Plan 9 binaries, which
2011/9/19 Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com>:
>> just go ahead and port the plan 9 c
>> compilers etc. to unix
>
> Already done. The inferno distribution contains, in /utils, all
> the Plan 9 xa, xc, xl (for x in [012568kv]) compilable by gcc.
Would this be possible to use for a cross compiler w
> just go ahead and port the plan 9 c
> compilers etc. to unix
Already done. The inferno distribution contains, in /utils, all
the Plan 9 xa, xc, xl (for x in [012568kv]) compilable by gcc.
On Mon Sep 19 14:08:02 EDT 2011, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 06:50:01PM +0100, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> > i thought it was great that something called "newlib" would still have
> > to implement a function called "isatty"
>
> This has always been the problem with "new": it
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 06:50:01PM +0100, Charles Forsyth wrote:
> i thought it was great that something called "newlib" would still have
> to implement a function called "isatty"
This has always been the problem with "new": it doesn't last... Same
goes for something dated "today"...
--
T
i thought it was great that something called "newlib" would still have
to implement a function called "isatty"
2011/9/19 ron minnich :
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Jens Staal wrote:
>
>> Alternatively - would a newlib approach be a better bet to get
>> binutils/gcc going? I have been trying to read up on it and to try to
>> locate the syscall information I need from plan9 libc. If anyone got
>> any p
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Jens Staal wrote:
> Alternatively - would a newlib approach be a better bet to get
> binutils/gcc going? I have been trying to read up on it and to try to
> locate the syscall information I need from plan9 libc. If anyone got
> any pointers on how to do this, it w
> That's a very interesting point. Implementing lguest on Plan 9 would
> require something like 13 "system calls". Far easier than doing the
> near-400 system calls of linux correctly.
At the cost of running an entire linux kernel on plan9...
cinap's linuxem (with my hacks) implements 139 syscall
2011/9/16 Jens Staal :
> - One thing I wonder there about 9vx is - can you add a command line
> argument to start a script in the plan9 that boots?
Yes. See 9vxp in 9vx(1). Also, have a look at acmevx in the bin
directory as inspiration.
--
- yiyus || JGL .
> Abaco is included in Plan 9 since July 2009.
>
> To run it, type:
>
> % webcookies
> % webfs
> % abaco
Or even simpler: use readweb(1)
dont forget mothra!
--
cinap
> Is running Opera on Plan 9 an option?
Opera already runs fine in linuxemu.
I never tried the latest versions however.
/n/sources/contrib/cinap_lenrek/linuxemu3.tgz
> Also, I don't know how to get abaco running.
Abaco is included in Plan 9 since July 2009.
To run it, type:
% webcookies
% web
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:41:29 -0400
> L N wrote:
>
> > The goal should be a Plan 9 "distro" that runs natively on AMD-64, and
> can
> > open a web-browser.
>
> That "goal" is a target moving at approximately the speed of light.
> Specif
2011/9/16 ron minnich :
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:41:29 -0400
>> L N wrote:
>>
>>> The goal should be a Plan 9 "distro" that runs natively on AMD-64, and can
>>> open a web-browser.
>>
>> That "goal" is a target moving at approximate
> That's a very interesting point. Implementing lguest on Plan 9 would
> require something like 13 "system calls". Far easier than doing the
> near-400 system calls of linux correctly.
i believe there's at least 2 and they're working on 3 abi for each system call.
it's like FAR and HUGE pointers a
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis
wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:41:29 -0400
> L N wrote:
>
>> The goal should be a Plan 9 "distro" that runs natively on AMD-64, and can
>> open a web-browser.
>
> That "goal" is a target moving at approximately the speed of light.
> Specifica
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:41:29 -0400
L N wrote:
> The goal should be a Plan 9 "distro" that runs natively on AMD-64, and can
> open a web-browser.
That "goal" is a target moving at approximately the speed of light.
Specifically, the "open a web browser" part of it is.
A virtualizer running on Pl
On Thursday 15 of September 2011 00:54:11 John Floren wrote:
> (...)
> I think you have seriously misapprehended many things about Plan 9.
> We don't have X. We are not Linux compatible, although there's a
> rather decent Linux emulator. There is no GTK, no Qt, no Firefox, no
> modern C++ compiler
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:33 PM, ron minnich wrote:
>
>
> Although for my money abaco is still really neat ...
>
> ron
>
>
I wonder if I can get abaco to display pages with a high-contrast-inverse
theme. :]
- Leonard
this is still my favorite:
http://gi52.photobucket.com/groups/g5/6DUVRHDUAT/typing.gif
-rob
invest some time then.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 01:43, Akshat Kumar wrote:
> abaco is free.
>
> :-)
>
>> Although for my money abaco is still really neat ...
>>
>> ron
>
>
Since you're on Ubuntu, why don't you start learning the ropes of the
Plan 9 programming environment by compiling/running 9vx on Ubuntu and
then hitting the papers? That way you can easily continue to use
Mozilla and invest minimal time before being able to actually get
something out of Plan 9 (yo
abaco is free.
:-)
> Although for my money abaco is still really neat ...
>
> ron
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:30 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Plan 9 is an OS, p9p is less.
> If all you need from Plan 9 is in p9p no need to boot Plan 9.
> We have a browser, but not one with all the newest craze (no html5,
> js, flash, gl).
>
>
Although for my money abaco is still real
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:19 PM, L N wrote:
> Why should I boot Plan 9, when I know I can't run a browser, and I already
> have p9p?
um, precisely. You should not. So use p9p. Let's get back to trying to
figure out where the Ted Stevens quote is in the NIX source.
thanks
ron
Plan 9 is an OS, p9p is less.
If all you need from Plan 9 is in p9p no need to boot Plan 9.
We have a browser, but not one with all the newest craze (no html5,
js, flash, gl).
On Sep 14, 2011, at 5:17 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:13 PM, L N wrote:
>
>> Afraid to commit to booting native Plan-9 until I'm sure I can get openbox,
>> firefox, and chromium-browser working on it.
>
> ah, now I see :-)
> http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_imag
> I think you have seriously misapprehended many things about Plan 9.
>
What am I misapprehending?
> We don't have X. We are not Linux compatible, although there's a
> rather decent Linux emulator. There is no GTK, no Qt, no Firefox, no
> modern C++ compiler.
>
I don't need X, Linux compatibil
The point is that you can run multiple operating systems,
these days, even on the same machine at the same time.
There's no need to use the same one for everything.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:54 AM, John Floren wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:41 PM, L N wrote:
>>
>>> ah, now I see :-)
>>>
>>>
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:41 PM, L N wrote:
>
>> ah, now I see :-)
>>
>> http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-0701-3117-1335_Skeleton_Behind_a_Business_Desk_clipart_image.jpg
>>
>> ron
>
> Maybe.
>
> The web-browser really is a deal-breaker, though.
>
> I really enjoyed reading a
> ah, now I see :-)
>
> http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-0701-3117-1335_Skeleton_Behind_a_Business_Desk_clipart_image.jpg
>
> ron
>
Maybe.
The web-browser really is a deal-breaker, though.
I really enjoyed reading about Plan 9, first at plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/,
and lat
I want my monitor's brightness and color temperature to suit my
ambient light. I'm used to black text on white paper and I don't want
to see white squares behind black monitors.
Perhaps the only reason I bother is because I'm sitting in front of
pcs too long.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 23:55, s s wr
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:13 PM, L N wrote:
> Afraid to commit to booting native Plan-9 until I'm sure I can get openbox,
> firefox, and chromium-browser working on it.
ah, now I see :-)
http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-0701-3117-1335_Skeleton_Behind_a_Business_Desk_clipart
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:57 PM, John Floren wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:55 PM, s s wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Or use xpdf -rv
> >> Although I use it for exactly the opposite purpose.
> >
> > How come no one likes high-contras
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:55 PM, s s wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Or use xpdf -rv
>> Although I use it for exactly the opposite purpose.
>
> How come no one likes high-contrast-inverse themes?
>
>
Because we like our eyeballs. I think you're
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Or use xpdf -rv
> Although I use it for exactly the opposite purpose.
>
Somehow, plain text is much more enjoyable to read than pdf.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Or use xpdf -rv
> Although I use it for exactly the opposite purpose.
>
How come no one likes high-contrast-inverse themes?
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
> Yes, http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.txt.gz
>
>
Wow is that better.
Too bad there is no css for pdf. (Or is there?)
Viewing the book now with Firefox/Stylish/Blackify.
http://userstyles.org/styles/2154/blackify
- Leonard
Or use xpdf -rv
Although I use it for exactly the opposite purpose.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 23:43, s s wrote:
> Is there an html version of the nemo book?
>
> http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.pdf
>
> Want to read it as white text on a black background.
>
> - Leonard
>
>
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
> Yes, http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.txt.gz
>
>
Cheers.
Yes, http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.txt.gz
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
> IIRC there's a 9.txt.gz, not html, but raw text.
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:43 PM, s s wrote:
>> Is there an html version of the nemo book?
>>
>> http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.pdf
>>
>> Wa
IIRC there's a 9.txt.gz, not html, but raw text.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:43 PM, s s wrote:
> Is there an html version of the nemo book?
>
> http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.pdf
>
> Want to read it as white text on a black background.
>
> - Leonard
>
>
Is there an html version of the nemo book?
http://lsub.org/who/nemo/9.pdf
Want to read it as white text on a black background.
- Leonard
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Benjamin
Huntsman wrote:
>>I'am intrigued, you have a weblink to where I could buy a printed copy
>>(in europe)?
>
> I'm not sure you can order it online, but here is the link:
>
> http://www.dykinson.com/book--Notes_on_the_plan_9tm_3rd_edition_kernel_source--23247.
>I'am intrigued, you have a weblink to where I could buy a printed copy
>(in europe)?
I'm not sure you can order it online, but here is the link:
http://www.dykinson.com/book--Notes_on_the_plan_9tm_3rd_edition_kernel_source--232471.html
<>
> Does anyone here know if it's possible to obtain printed
> copies of nemo's book if you live in the United States?
I'am intrigued, you have a weblink to where I could buy a printed copy
(in europe)?
I thought sites like lulu only allowed the author to offer the document for
publication, not tha
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Benjamin
Huntsman wrote:
> Does anyone here know if it's possible to obtain printed
> copies of nemo's book if you live in the United States?
>
> Dykinson's website doesn't seem to offer overseas
> shipping...
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -Ben
>
I've looked at the co
Does anyone here know if it's possible to obtain printed
copies of nemo's book if you live in the United States?
Dykinson's website doesn't seem to offer overseas
shipping...
Thanks in advance!
-Ben
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