Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-09 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021, at 3:39 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: > > Yep. I might be able to understand that change, but less so the later > > breaking change to 9p auth. > > What 9p change for auth are you talking about? > > The dp9ik implementation in 9front just uses p9any to negotiate > it

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-08 Thread cinap_lenrek
> Yep. I might be able to understand that change, but less so the later > breaking change to 9p auth. What 9p change for auth are you talking about? The dp9ik implementation in 9front just uses p9any to negotiate it and p9sk1 is still supported; tho by default we have p9sk1 disabled at the

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-05 Thread Anthony Martin
Ethan Gardener once said: > the later breaking change to 9p auth Which change was that? Anthony -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tc472e4a0c0b6f084-M5a6466d3fd80eaa026b0f9dc Delivery options:

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-05 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Keith Gibbs wrote: > It's almost as if the accusations that 9front in some way undermines the core > philosophies of Plan 9 are not motivated by facts, There was a lot of grumpiness around when that accusation got started. > On 21/04/03 05:39PM, hiro wrote: > >

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-03 Thread hiro
nobody is in charge. maybe that's what is so horrifying ;) -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tc472e4a0c0b6f084-M3ff118089e93859a7b4fe42a Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-03 Thread Keith Gibbs
It's almost as if the accusations that 9front in some way undermines the core philosophies of Plan 9 are not motivated by facts, but more invented in the minds of people who just don't like 9front people being in charge of 9front. Almost... -pixelheresy On 21/04/03 05:39PM, hiro wrote: > btw

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-03 Thread hiro
btw everybody, remember how labs people added a syscall just for go? and how that breaks compatibility for everybody? 9front didn't like it. but I guess we prefer to stay as compatible as feasible in addition to trying to prevent scenarios like these forced upon us (by labs, ironic eh?)

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-03 Thread hiro
> But in the years since then, some small non-fix changes have been made. and many many many more fixes and hardware support changes (mostly additions) have been made :P -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-03 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021, at 5:20 AM, Lucio De Re wrote: > I think that the "purity" (imaginary as it may be, it is an historical > fact) of BL Plan 9 and the practicality of 9front should be discussed > at a philosophical level To toss in my bit (although it's really more anecdote than philosophy):

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-02 Thread hiro
is the p9f website not a wiki? trying to fix this i managed to 9p mount something, but didn't find the index page... whoever added the miller and 9legacy links might be able to help us out? On 4/2/21, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > This was unnecessarily complain-y and overly political. "It would be

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-02 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
This was unnecessarily complain-y and overly political. "It would be nice for p9f.org to also link 9front" is all I really meant here. I'm sorry for this message, and appreciate that p9f is both nascent and nobody's actual job. Kind regards, --dho On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 22:25 Devon H. O'Dell

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-02 Thread vic . thacker
Hello all, My question is, "Where can we find the official Plan 9 Foundation's main branch so folks can get start sending pull requests?" It would be nice to see the community members collaborate toward a 5th edition. Thanks, Vic -- 9fans: 9fans

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-01 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
I've been pretty silent on the list for years, and I hope that as a former collaborator on foundation efforts and former Plan 9 GSoC co-admin and mentor, and assurance that my silence hasn't been ignorance, that my opinion still has weight with folks in p9f. I have to admit a bit of surprise that

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-01 Thread Lucio De Re
I need time to assimilate mindset changing concepts, I should not respond as quickly as I am doing here, so please understand that nothing below is intended to offend anyone, it is more a totally subjective and poorly formulated knee-jerk reaction to what is clearly a critical event in Plan 9's

Re: [9fans] Foundation new releases question

2021-04-01 Thread sirjofri
01.04.2021 18:31:38 leimy2k via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>: What's the recommended way to participate in the foundation's community for new releases? I've been very interested in trying out the various Plan 9 forks these days, and I see that the foundation page actively links to 9legacy. Is