Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-15 Thread Kim Shrier
On May 14, 2010, at 9:58 PM, EBo wrote: I lived in NM for 8 years, I loved it, still do, but ABQ fails the transport hub criterion. I had lots of complaints about that when we had conferences in santa fe. Actually, Santa Fe is a pain to have as a destination for an international

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-15 Thread EBo
If I thought people would actually come, I would see if I could organize something in Ouray Colorado. Do you live in that neck of the woods? It is about 300 miles north of Albuquerque in the San Juan Mountains. You get there by first flying to Denver, Phoenix, or Albuquerque, then

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-15 Thread Kim Shrier
On May 15, 2010, at 10:12 AM, EBo wrote: If I thought people would actually come, I would see if I could organize something in Ouray Colorado. Do you live in that neck of the woods? Yes. There aren't many tech people around here and I think it would be great to get a group of Plan 9

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-15 Thread ron minnich
the one big push for new mexico is spaceport america ... maybe we'd get to see a test launch :-) but that's a serious hike from ABQ :-) ron

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-15 Thread EBo
the one big push for new mexico is spaceport america ... maybe we'd get to see a test launch :-) but that's a serious hike from ABQ :-) True, then we can maybe move the venue to Los Cruses, Truth or Consequences, or maybe even Hatch (and right about time for the chili festival) ;-) I know

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-14 Thread Jeff Sickel
On May 13, 2010, at 10:14 PM, ron minnich wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: I do not like Boston as a destination. it's ok, I think it's going to be seattle :-) Seattle's fine. Boston too would be fine. I just don't like/trust Logan. Now

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-14 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: Now if someone in or around Albuquerque could schedule an IWP9 some year around the beginning of October  Tough place to get to, but kill two birds w/ one stone (flight): IWP9 + Albuquerque International Ballon

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-14 Thread Jeff Sickel
On May 14, 2010, at 8:59 PM, ron minnich wrote: plus hotel rates that go through the roof :-) who needs a hotel when you're hitting the day break launch? anyway, glad to see movement towards a 5th IWP9. Let's hope Icelandic volcanos don't shut out our European friends. -jas

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-14 Thread EBo
Seattle's fine. Boston too would be fine. I just don't like/trust Logan. Now if someone in or around Albuquerque could schedule an IWP9 some year around the beginning of October Tough place to get to, but kill two birds w/ one stone (flight): IWP9 + Albuquerque International Ballon

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-14 Thread ron minnich
I lived in NM for 8 years, I loved it, still do, but ABQ fails the transport hub criterion. I had lots of complaints about that when we had conferences in santa fe. thanks ron

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-14 Thread EBo
I lived in NM for 8 years, I loved it, still do, but ABQ fails the transport hub criterion. I had lots of complaints about that when we had conferences in santa fe. Actually, Santa Fe is a pain to have as a destination for an international conference unless there is a reason to be at the

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread EBo
On Wed, 12 May 2010 09:08:23 -0700, Chad Brown yand...@mit.edu wrote: FWIW, there are two Google offices in the Seattle area; one in Freemont and one in Kirkland, which is just across the water.Either one likely has a useful setup for recording presentations and might also be usable for

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread Chad Brown
I'm vaguely affiliated with MIT still via their student computing group (SIPB). We've looked into convention/event support at MIT before, and the bottom line is that such things really need a professor or department head as a sponsor. *Chad On May 13, 2010, at 11:16 AM, EBo wrote:

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread ron minnich
I think Skip and I and the other guys who are doing the work are settling on seattle. The site of the meeting is still not fixed. But the airport has great connections and great mass transit to a nice downtown; the hotel prices are great; it's a very nice city to meet in; and, well, nobody has

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread Jeff Sickel
I do not like Boston as a destination. The last four times I've travelled there, or through there, I've been stuck overnight in the airport. As far as I'm concerned, tread carefully when flying through Logan. Boston itself can be enjoyable, and the surrounding pirtions of the North East are

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread EBo
I think Skip and I and the other guys who are doing the work are settling on seattle. The site of the meeting is still not fixed. But the airport has great connections and great mass transit to a nice downtown; the hotel prices are great; it's a very nice city to meet in; and, well, nobody

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:45 PM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: If you want a workshop format, then what are you looking for to be in the proceedings? I'm not taking for granted that we need one. ron

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: I do not like Boston as a destination. it's ok, I think it's going to be seattle :-) ron

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread EBo
If you want a workshop format, then what are you looking for to be in the proceedings? I'm not taking for granted that we need one. ok. EBo --

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 13 23:15:28 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:45 PM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: If you want a workshop format, then what are you looking for to be in the proceedings? I'm not taking for granted that we need one. i don't know making this needs to

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:27 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Thu May 13 23:15:28 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not taking for granted that we need one. i don't know making this needs to be a binary switch. It doesn't. But somebody needs to sign up to get the

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-12 Thread Rodolfo (kix)
Hi, IMHO I prefer Europe. The first iwp9 was in Europe, the second in USA, third in Europe, the last in USA and the next? On the other hand, Seattle (WA) is very far far far far away from here (Europe). I cannot offer any place. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Chad Brown yand...@mit.edu

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-12 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Rodolfo (kix) k...@kix.es wrote: Hi, IMHO I prefer Europe. The first iwp9 was in Europe, the second in USA, third in Europe, the last in USA and the next? On the other hand, Seattle (WA) is very far far far far away from here (Europe). I cannot offer any

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-08 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 01:11:16AM +0200, Mathieu Lonjaret wrote: While we're at just sayin; from what I hear on #9fans, there still is some interest to have that one happening in europe. So if you guys from the other side of the pond think you would come, I could poke around and see if I can

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-08 Thread erik quanstrom
Well, I'm in Annecy (Haute-Savoie, France) so, for sure, an european located twin event will be more doable. i don't think we have enough people to split into two. - erik

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-08 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 12:48:50PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: Well, I'm in Annecy (Haute-Savoie, France) so, for sure, an european located twin event will be more doable. i don't think we have enough people to split into two. In fact, I misread initially the proposal, reading in

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-08 Thread ron minnich
Skip and I have been talking offline. I do think seattle is looking better and better. - hub city - good mass transit to a likely meeting place AND hotels right from the airport - huge range of hotels, with some good low cost ones - supportive organization for the meeting and, finally, I may be

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-07 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:45 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time? pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺ I actually like seattle that time of year anyway.

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-07 Thread Paul Lalonde
Both Vancouver and Seattle are trivially doable for me. I'd offer our Victoria offices, but we're moving into unknown space at the end of August. Paul On 2010-05-07, at 6:09 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:45 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 6,

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-07 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: OSDI is in Vancouver in October, might be more justifiable as a destination for academic folks if the workshop and the conference adjoined -- it would at least be down to a single airfare. I got burned doing that for

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-07 Thread David Leimbach
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Ramon de Vera ramondev...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe Seattle? ...if in October, the Picasso Exhibit is also on in the SAM as well (just saying). Yeah but by then the Lusty Lady across the street from the SAM will have shut its doors forever (also just saying).

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-07 Thread ron minnich
I would most prefer to have it at a transport hub. That said, the person who sets up the arrangements gets to call it. I do have some calls coming back to me from local hotels. ron

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue May 4 16:00:50 EDT 2010, jonas.amo...@home.se wrote: I am thinking of the durability of the URL:s for the various IWP9 articles. if www.iwp9.org will be reused for further hosting, a subdirectory (as in 'papers/4e/') might be a good idea.I suppose that some domain bloat is hard to

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread Jeff Sickel
On May 6, 2010, at 9:55 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: speaking of which, is there any interest in iwp9 5e? yes

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread ron minnich
Me too. I thought 4 was great. I keep wanting to have a workshop here: http://www.naturebridge.org/headlands/conference-facilities It's stunning and SF is right over the bridge. This time around we could emphasize hacking more than talks, and let people show us what they've got. Would love to

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 6 12:01:32 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: Me too. I thought 4 was great. I keep wanting to have a workshop here: http://www.naturebridge.org/headlands/conference-facilities It's stunning and SF is right over the bridge. This time around we could emphasize hacking more

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:01 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: are you gonna host? Actually, the big question to start is: what are people willing to pay? We have a lot of students, for example. IWP9 4 was a bargain. I've had one experience with a workshop priced out of people's

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ron minnich wrote: I figure Marin Headlands ought to be cheap (dormitory housing!) but very attractive (right at the Golden Gate!). Cheap indeed! (apologies for the html) Our overnight package includes: * 3 meals per person * 1 meeting room for every 1 night stay * 1-time room

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Our overnight package includes: * 3 meals per person * 1 meeting room for every 1 night stay * 1-time room set-up * Overnight lodging Group sizeWeekday*Weekend** 10-25 people $95.00/person $99.00/person 26-75 people $89/person $93/person 76-150

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Let's try something else. how about Seattle? i have looked into conference facilities provided by the Port of Seattle, and they seem reasonably priced. there are several locations, but the least expensive will be the conference rooms at the airport. for 60 or less people a room like the

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread EBo
I would be very interested in attending IWP9, but whatever the location is, it will be probably out of my financial reach, combining travel and accomodations. I think that I'm not the only one in this case: definitively no lack of interest; but lack of means---and lack of vision even for

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread ron minnich
doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time? ron

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time? pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time? pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺ I actually like seattle that time of year anyway. Is seattle a one-hop place from Europe? I am sure it is from the

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Is seattle a one-hop place from Europe? I am sure it is from the important spots on the pacific rim ... this is an interesting suggestion! daily direct flights from/to: Amsterdam, Frankfurt, London, Paris and Reykjavik

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread EBo
On Thu, 6 May 2010 14:21:24 -0700, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time? pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺ I do not know about you but when I go to a conference I actually go FOR the conference. If we really wanted pretty

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: doesn't the weather get ugly in seattle about that time? pick any two: cheap, pretty, convenient. ☺ I actually like seattle that time of year anyway. which one did athens, ga fail? - erik

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: which one did athens, ga fail? I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic. It was somewhat inconvenient to get to, and people had to pay the cost of

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 6 19:09:36 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: which one did athens, ga fail? I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic. It

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread Christopher Nielsen
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 16:08, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: which one did athens, ga fail? I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic.

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread balaji
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: which one did athens, ga fail? I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic.

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
which one did athens, ga fail? i wasn't trying to be disparaging toward past venues. i would guess if there was any, it would be convenience of getting there/back.

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-06 Thread John Floren
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:35 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com wrote: *Weekday overnight accommodations are not available from September to June. this will mean peak season airfares and very tight deadline. The food

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-04 Thread EBo
erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com said: On Tue May 4 16:05:13 EDT 2010, jonas.amo...@home.se wrote: I am thinking of the durability of the URL:s for the various IWP9 articles. if www.iwp9.org will be reused for further hosting, a subdirectory (as in 'papers/4e/') might be a good

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-04 Thread erik quanstrom
would be Quanstrom2009a.pdf Quanstrom2009b.pdf or possibly something like Quanstrom2009AAN.pdf Quanstrom2009SR.pdf This would help with various maintenance and automation tasks. i'm not sure i understand how this would help. currently there is a single list of paper names. for your use,

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-04 Thread EBo
i'm not sure i understand how this would help. currently there is a single list of paper names. for your use, these names are random. changing to a list of authors, years and a seperate sequence list per author sounds at best no less complicated to me. for your use, i believe such a