[9fans] the `Look' command in Acme

2012-05-17 Thread dexen deVries
i've removed the `Look' command from Acme's tag, as i found no use for it. anything i'm missing? -- dexen deVries [[[↓][→]]] Weightless and alone you speed through the eerie nothingness of space you circle 'round the Moon and journey back to face the punishing torment of re-entry -- LUNA-C,

Re: [9fans] the `Look' command in Acme

2012-05-17 Thread Lucio De Re
i've removed the `Look' command from Acme's tag, as i found no use for it. anything i'm missing? It's a convenient mechanism to search for patterns that may be misinterpreted. I use it a lot when the pattern I'm looking for happens to match a filename. ++L

Re: [9fans] the `Look' command in Acme

2012-05-17 Thread hugo rivera
True, but I think he refers to remove it from the tag only, since every time you have to use a Look command you have to retype it followed by the pattern. 2012/5/17 Lucio De Re lu...@proxima.alt.za: i've removed the `Look' command from Acme's tag, as i found no use for it. anything i'm missing?

Re: [9fans] the `Look' command in Acme

2012-05-17 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
i was always missing a 'command window' where can i see the file with my customized commands (for the task i'm working on), w/o restarting acme. see my ancient postings about an idea how to replace (mostly redundant) taglines with a command window. (yes, i can open my guide file in a window and

Re: [9fans] the `Look' command in Acme

2012-05-17 Thread dexen deVries
On Thursday 17 of May 2012 11:23:47 Peter A. Cejchan wrote: i was always missing a 'command window' where can i see the file with my customized commands (for the task i'm working on), w/o restarting acme. see my ancient postings about an idea how to replace (mostly redundant) taglines with a

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
I think I'll have to stick with 9front. I tried the official dist CD and 9atom last night and both managed to install this time but rebooting either of them would give a no bootfile error and a '' prompt that would take no input. 9front is the only dist that works reliably enough to install a

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread Jack Norton
On 5/17/2012 7:39 AM, Burton Samograd wrote: I think I'll have to stick with 9front. I tried the official dist CD and 9atom last night and both managed to install this time but rebooting either of them would give a no bootfile error and a '' prompt that would take no input. 9front is the only

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 17 08:41:24 EDT 2012, burton.samog...@gmail.com wrote: I think I'll have to stick with 9front. I tried the official dist CD and 9atom last night and both managed to install this time but rebooting either of them would give a no bootfile error and a '' prompt that would take no

[9fans] Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
People are saying that the Wavelan PC24E-H-FC is working with plan9. I found a Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI. Any idea if this will work? -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
installing 9atom with the 9front boot loader doesn't work.  the prompt i a characteristic of it. Unless there was residuals from the previous install that weren't overwritten then I was doing a clean install of both the labs and 9atom distro. -- Burton Samograd

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
 Please read cwfs(4) man page.  In there is a description of the different partitions and their uses.  In particular you don't want fscache to fill up as it causes the front to fall off. It sounds also like you may need to read up on cache/worm filesystems in general.  in your case 10G is not

Re: [9fans] Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI

2012-05-17 Thread sl
People are saying that the Wavelan PC24E-H-FC is working with plan9. I found a Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI. Any idea if this will work? Since there has been no systematic attempt to track working hardware, each purchase is a crapshoot. I own one Lucent WaveLAN PC24E-H-FC that works and just

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread erik quanstrom
Please read cwfs(4) man page. In there is a description of the different partitions and their uses. In particular you don't want fscache to fill up as it causes the front to fall off. It sounds also like you may need to read up on cache/worm filesystems in general. in your case 10G is

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread erik quanstrom
I have a question about the 9front/cwfs64x default partition layout, which I picked because I'm a noob with this. On my 80G did, it suggested a ~10G other, ~10G fscache, and a ~50G fsworm parition. After rebooting it looks like other is where my user directory is. So with this layout of the

Re: [9fans] Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI

2012-05-17 Thread Russ Cox
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM, s...@9front.org wrote: Since there has been no systematic attempt to track working hardware, each purchase is a crapshoot. I own one Lucent WaveLAN PC24E-H-FC that works and just bought one IBM PC24E-H-FC that does not work. They're old cards, and the

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
the worm is not a wayback machine, it is the main storage! Maybe I was getting confused with venti (as in fossil+venti)? I guess I thought that since cwfs was standalone that it incorporated both systems into one. -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

2012-05-17 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Mon, 14 May 2012 14:34:39 + s...@9front.org wrote: EthanG will be disciplined. -sl What? Did I forget to promulgate dbus again? But you all only decide you like dbus at the end of a hard day, I wrote all that before lunch.

Re: [9fans] Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI

2012-05-17 Thread sl
Since there has been no systematic attempt to track working hardware, each purchase is a crapshoot. I own one Lucent WaveLAN PC24E-H-FC that works and just bought one IBM PC24E-H-FC that does not work. They're old cards, and the non-working one could just be dead. Or, it could have

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

2012-05-17 Thread dexen deVries
On Thursday 17 of May 2012 15:57:07 Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: On Mon, 14 May 2012 14:34:39 + s...@9front.org wrote: EthanG will be disciplined. -sl What? Did I forget to promulgate dbus again? But you all only decide you like dbus at the end of a hard day, I wrote all that

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread cinap_lenrek
no. your user data is not in other filesystem. basicly there are 3 filesystems that cwfs exports after 9front installation. main, dump and other. main is the primary file system that gets archived to the worm in daily intervals. the archival snapshots (dump) appear as directories in the read only

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Jack Johnson
Quick tangent, is there anyone out there whose favorite environment is non-native? Maybe 9vx or plan9ports on specific hardware? Your secret sam port to Windows 8's Metro UI? For all I know, plan9ports full screen on a MacBook Air is Glenda's Elysian field. Maybe something dual-screen with Chrome

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
The defaults in my 9front installation were other, fscache and fsworm. Does fscache == main and fsworm == dump? -Original Message- From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of cinap_len...@gmx.de Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:37 AM To: 9fans@9fans.net

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

2012-05-17 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Thu, 17 May 2012 17:45:00 +0200 dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 17 of May 2012 15:57:07 Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: On Mon, 14 May 2012 14:34:39 + s...@9front.org wrote: EthanG will be disciplined. -sl What? Did I forget to

Re: [9fans] the `Look' command in Acme

2012-05-17 Thread Tristan
i've removed the `Look' command from Acme's tag, as i found no use for it. anything i'm missing? looking for text from one window in another window: select text in the first window 2-1 chord on Look in the second window's tag line i don't use it as much as some things, but i do use it.

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

2012-05-17 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 05:38:13PM +0200, dexen deVries wrote: i have used dbus recently, via dbus-send(1) and qdbusviewer. it's like a filesystem populated with filesystem servers, only that you can't mount(3), open(3), stat(3), etc. anything. I have driven a motorcycle recently, via

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 17 11:46:03 EDT 2012, burton.samog...@markit.com wrote: The defaults in my 9front installation were other, fscache and fsworm. Does fscache == main and fsworm == dump? yes. - erik

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread cinap_lenrek
no. lets look at a cwfs config. filsys main c(/dev/sdC0/fscache)(/dev/sdC0/fsworm) filsys dump o filsys other (/dev/sdC0/fsother) main is composed from fscache and fsworm. the cache contains the current working set of blocks. when data is requested and its not in the cache, it is read from the

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
Plan 9 doesn't run native on my last two notebooks (not handling wireless, anyway), so I've been using an older version of 9vx, which has been stable for years. I run it full screen, on Ubuntu, mainly alternating between that and Chrome. I'm tempted to try to get native working again for me,

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread David Romano
cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote on Thu, May 17, 2012 at 08:37:09AM MST: you can do without a other fs. we added support for +t flags like there is in fossil, so you can just mark directories and files as temporary in the main filesystem so they dont get dumped to worm. (this works recursively on

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Jack Norton
On 5/17/2012 10:41 AM, Jack Johnson wrote: Quick tangent, is there anyone out there whose favorite environment is non-native? Maybe 9vx or plan9ports on specific hardware? Your secret sam port to Windows 8's Metro UI? For all I know, plan9ports full screen on a MacBook Air is Glenda's Elysian

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

2012-05-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 17 12:11:27 EDT 2012, un...@cpan.org wrote: cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote on Thu, May 17, 2012 at 08:37:09AM MST: you can do without a other fs. we added support for +t flags like there is in fossil, so you can just mark directories and files as temporary in the main filesystem so

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Charles Forsyth
Oh. other jack's email reminds me: I have used qemu/kvm to debug x86 kernels before I run them native. It's easier for instance than trying to run two machines on an aircraft, though you can run two on a train. I have got plan9ports on the notebooks, to provide some sane commands when I have to

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Thu, 17 May 2012 07:41:28 -0800 Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: Quick tangent, is there anyone out there whose favorite environment is non-native? Maybe 9vx or plan9ports on specific hardware? Your secret sam port to Windows 8's Metro UI? For all I know, plan9ports full screen on

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

2012-05-17 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Thu, 17 May 2012 17:38:13 +0200 dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 17 of May 2012 15:57:07 Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: On Mon, 14 May 2012 14:34:39 + s...@9front.org wrote: EthanG will be disciplined. -sl What? Did I forget to promulgate dbus

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Justin Bedo
I use abaco all the time for my roleplaying, btw, I like it. It handles Simple Machines forums quite nicely, and most of my comics too. I tried to use abaco but it doesn't seem to like google's website. Clicking any of the results links shows a redirection error page from google. I haven't

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Burton Samograd
I tried to use abaco but it doesn't seem to like google's website. Clicking any of the results links shows a redirection error page from google. Seconded. Google searching is a pain using abaco. -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread erik quanstrom
abaco was confused about how relative urls work. i've attached the file i'm using (which has some extra differences), and here's the diff - erik --- /n/dump/2012/0220/sys/src/cmd/abaco/urls.c:173,237 - urls.c:173,246 void urlcanon(Rune *name) { - Rune *s, *t, *tail; + Rune *s,

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Jack Norton
On 5/17/2012 12:31 PM, Justin Bedo wrote: I use abaco all the time for my roleplaying, btw, I like it. It handles Simple Machines forums quite nicely, and most of my comics too. I tried to use abaco but it doesn't seem to like google's website. Clicking any of the results links shows a

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Justin Bedo
This works in mothra with webfs. I like mothra much better than abaco. It is included in 9front, or alternatively grab it from the 9front google code page. It uses 9front's webfs as well. Yes I tried this, and it worked perfectly fine. However I prefer the abaco interface. Is it possible

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread sl
Is it possible to copy/paste in mothra? No. But it does have moth mode. -sl

[9fans] +t and bind (Was Re: Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience)

2012-05-17 Thread David Romano
erik quanstrom wrote on Thu, May 17, 2012 at 09:26:40AM MST: as i see it, the argument for +t is that the files remain in the usual heirarchy. I think I understand. So basically I don't need to worry about which directories or files are bind(1)'d to others under the hierarchy, and the hierarchy

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Richard Miller
Besides that, my Elysian field has namespaces. +1

Re: [9fans] I will buy laptop pre-installed with plan9!!!

2012-05-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 17 17:44:51 EDT 2012, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: Besides that, my Elysian field has namespaces. +1 better than angry french motorists. - erik