Re: [9fans] directly opening Plan9 devices

2009-01-07 Thread Dave Eckhardt
> The underlying assumption of motivation for this discussion is that > jailing (or whatever we want to call it) is somehow a good thing. > Given that every CPU we care about comes with virtualization > hardware, I just can't see the point of jails -- seems like an idea > whose time has gone, kind

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-07 Thread blstuart
>>Just one line in plan9.ini and I was rocking. > > I'll have to break out my amber-screen vt420 and give it a try. > Probably not terribly useful w/o a mouse, though! :) But it's not bad as the console of a file server. My vt220 is on an RS232 switch so it can be the console of a couple of mac

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-07 Thread john
>>Just one line in plan9.ini and I was rocking. > > I'll have to break out my amber-screen vt420 and give it a try. Probably not > terribly useful w/o a mouse, though! :) If somebody (not necessarily me) was to put interrupt functionality into rc, you could basically experience 70s UNIX again--

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-07 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
>Just one line in plan9.ini and I was rocking. I'll have to break out my amber-screen vt420 and give it a try. Probably not terribly useful w/o a mouse, though! :) <>

Re: [9fans] directly opening Plan9 devices

2009-01-07 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:16 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Wed Jan 7 11:58:04 EST 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: >> The underlying assumption of motivation for this discussion is that >> jailing (or whatever we want to call it) is somehow a good thing. >> Given that every CPU we care about comes

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-07 Thread john
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:10 PM, wrote: >> >> http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/plan9vt220-full.jpeg >> http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/plan9vt220-screen.jpeg >> >> Just threw this onto my CPU server (yes, mock my slow processor, it >> was free) and was once again pleased with how easy it is t

Re: [9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-07 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:10 PM, wrote: > > http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/plan9vt220-full.jpeg > http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/plan9vt220-screen.jpeg > > Just threw this onto my CPU server (yes, mock my slow processor, it > was free) and was once again pleased with how easy it is to set st

[9fans] cheap, low-resolution terminal

2009-01-07 Thread john
http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/plan9vt220-full.jpeg http://csplan9.rit.edu/users/john/plan9vt220-screen.jpeg Just threw this onto my CPU server (yes, mock my slow processor, it was free) and was once again pleased with how easy it is to set stuff up on Plan 9. Just one line in plan9.ini and I

Re: [9fans] Sources vac scores?

2009-01-07 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 08:37:02PM -0500, ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > No, we don't publish venti scores; that would be very > poor security practice. In the general case, yes, absolutely. In the case of the nightly scores for sources/plan9, is it still? AFAICT the entire directory tree th

Re: [9fans] Sources vac scores?

2009-01-07 Thread geoff
No, we don't publish venti scores; that would be very poor security practice. We'll soon be announcing a way to mirror sources with replica, once we've shaken the procedure down. We will then discourage the existing mirroring schemes.

Re: [9fans] Changelogs & Patches?

2009-01-07 Thread erik quanstrom
> Lets see. May be its my misinterpretation of what venti does. But so > far I understand that it boils down to: I give venti a block of any > length, it gives me a score back. Now internally, venti might decide just a clarification. this is done by the client. from venti(6): Files and Di

Re: [9fans] Changelogs & Patches?

2009-01-07 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 18:44 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: > >> a big difference between the decisions is in data integrety. > >> it's much easier to break a fs that rewrites than it is a > >> worm-based fs. > > > > True. But there's a grey area here: an FS that *never* rewrites > > live blocks, bu

[9fans] venti icachewriteproc going past isect

2009-01-07 Thread Oleg Finkelshteyn
hi, i've had this behavior some time ago and haven't solved that, and now Akshat Kumar is experiencing exactly the same, but as the venti at faul is running on his mail server, he's unable to post here. as soon as venti starts, an icachewriteproc can be observed which produces high load, making t

[9fans] Sources vac scores?

2009-01-07 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
Is the venti backing sources publically readable? Perhaps equally importantly, are the scores of sources dump published anywhere? I ask because I'd like a local copy of the development history, and while I am currently spidering sources' dump, that's going to take a long while and venti/copy -f s

Re: [9fans] directly opening Plan9 devices

2009-01-07 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Jan 7 11:58:04 EST 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: > The underlying assumption of motivation for this discussion is that > jailing (or whatever we want to call it) is somehow a good thing. > Given that every CPU we care about comes with virtualization hardware, > I just can't see the point

Re: [9fans] directly opening Plan9 devices

2009-01-07 Thread ron minnich
The underlying assumption of motivation for this discussion is that jailing (or whatever we want to call it) is somehow a good thing. Given that every CPU we care about comes with virtualization hardware, I just can't see the point of jails -- seems like an idea whose time has gone, kind of like 80

Re: [9fans] RFNOMNT and/or "least privilege"

2009-01-07 Thread sqweek
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Dave Eckhardt wrote: > The web server infrastructure seems pretty focused on running > as user "none", which makes sense as far as it goes, but I > don't want none to be able to read the files served by the > web servers because anybody who can log in to the machine

Re: [9fans] Why do we need syspipe() ?

2009-01-07 Thread Charles Forsyth
the example that prompted the `fish' remark was: cd location; pwd shows location.

Re: [9fans] boot 9vx from Plan 9 cpu/fileserver

2009-01-07 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.plan9/browse_thread/thread/3df541c516a79daa/6ad1abca006414d4?lnk=gst&q=mount+9vx+root+from+fileserver#6ad1abca006414d4 > Moin, > > how do I have to call 9vx to get the root from a remote Plan 9 cpu/filserver? > > Matthias

[9fans] boot 9vx from Plan 9 cpu/fileserver

2009-01-07 Thread Matthias Teege
Moin, how do I have to call 9vx to get the root from a remote Plan 9 cpu/filserver? Matthias