Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread Tim Newsham
probably the easiest of the three to deal with, if someone were really, really inclined. but really: don't be. these are kernels for very, very outdated platforms, some of which even eBay has trouble turning up. cobbling That's besides the point. This stuff should be saved for posterity, and h

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
>anyway, to ron's question, for those keeping score: >Sun: released their stuff; recently acquired by Oracle. >NeXT: acquired by Apple, ate it from within. >MIPS: acquired by SGI. a smaller MIPS was then spit out when SGI >realized Itanium was their future (oops). >SGI: went backrupt, twice, then a

[9fans] Fwd: [coreboot] ELC 2009 videos and slides

2009-08-08 Thread ron minnich
some interesting talks in here, esp. the boot time reduction one. ron -- Forwarded message -- From: Peter Stuge Date: Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 7:28 AM Subject: [coreboot] ELC 2009 videos and slides To: coreb...@coreboot.org http://free-electrons.com/blog/elc-2009-videos/ Some I f

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread erik quanstrom
> i was going to say that having Plan 9 ported to your platform seemed > like a bad omen for your company, but equally valid is the observation > that being a platform vender (other than Apple) is bad for your > company. ibm seems to be doing ok. but sequent, the original home of ken's fs kernel

Re: [9fans] linux reinvents factotum, secstore ...

2009-08-08 Thread Uriel
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 4:44 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > Yeah they were hot on CORBA, and KDE folks were doing DCOP, which was > derived from some X11 ICE thing... Neither of them was that great, and > somehow they've both come back to DBUS. > I don't honestly know the rhyme or reason for any of it.

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:45, ron minnich wrote: > I wonder how many of the companies involved still exist :-) i suspect ron knows all this already; this is intended for anyone else who comes along and thinks this might make getting 2e CDs out easier (instead of harder). again, this is all from m

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread Uriel
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:49 AM, John Floren wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Steve Simon wrote: >> As Anthony says it is very very old, but I might >> be fun if you had the time on your hands. The 2nd edition >> books/cdrom are nolonger available but you might find >> a set seccond hand (ab

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread ron minnich
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > the CD includes sources to the kernel on platforms which required NDAs > to get the information to do the port. part of the NDA, as i > understand it, required the sorts of restrictions on redistribution in > the commercial license. people hav

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

2009-08-08 Thread Anthony Sorace
the CD includes sources to the kernel on platforms which required NDAs to get the information to do the port. part of the NDA, as i understand it, required the sorts of restrictions on redistribution in the commercial license. people have tried to get at least some bits of that opened up, and at le

Re: [9fans] linux reinvents factotum, secstore ...

2009-08-08 Thread David Leimbach
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > > X11 isn't a desktop, it tries very hard not to define a look and feel, but >> it has to include inter-app communications to support the supposedly >> desirable drag & drop as well a

Re: [9fans] 9base-3

2009-08-08 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 01:39:00 -0700 Russ Cox wrote: > Thanks, but I'm happy with the current tar files. > They are a working CVS checkout, so that > people who use them can then use the recipes > in cvs(1) [9 man cvs] to update their trees. > The one you linked to is not a working anything checkout

Re: [9fans] just an idea (Splashtop like)

2009-08-08 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sat Aug 8 00:47:40 EDT 2009, davide...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: > > would you expect to have a bad spot in 2,000 fujitsu eagles? > > If you do, I have a repair manual. i prefer two strong oxen. - erik

Re: [9fans] USB HDD connection problem

2009-08-08 Thread Bela Valek
- usb/usbd is up and running - the only option in my BIOS is to turn USB off - I am sorry, i dont understand the part about the old and new USB devices and tools. can you explain a bit? Thanks: Béla 2009/8/7 erik quanstrom : > On Fri Aug  7 02:53:14 EDT 2009, bval...@gmail.com wrote: >> There is

Re: [9fans] 9base-3

2009-08-08 Thread Russ Cox
Thanks, but I'm happy with the current tar files. They are a working CVS checkout, so that people who use them can then use the recipes in cvs(1) [9 man cvs] to update their trees. The one you linked to is not a working anything checkout. I haven't touched the tar file generation in over a year so

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

2009-08-08 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:08 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: Story time. :) You're also falling into the trap of believing that because it _can_ happen, it has to happen (Murphy's Law). It punishes the many for the sins of the few and is a very poor foundation for progress. It wasn't a positio

Re: [9fans] 9base-3

2009-08-08 Thread Uriel
Perhaps a way to solve this problems and save you work and trouble would be to simply link to: http://code.swtch.com/plan9port/get/tip.gz and let mercurial do the job of building a tarball for the latest repo. uriel On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Uriel wrote: > I haven't used the tarball in year

Re: [9fans] 9base-3

2009-08-08 Thread Uriel
I haven't used the tarball in years because I simply find hg more convenient, but a few times when I have recommended somebody to install p9p they have complained about problems unpacking the tarball, I just tell them to do a fresh hg checkout instead, and that usually works for them. Maybe they ar

Re: [9fans] 9base-3

2009-08-08 Thread Russ Cox
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Uriel wrote: > Always get p9p from hg, the tarballs have been partially broken for > ages and Excuse me? Instead of keeping that to yourself why not tell me so I can fix it? I know many people who install from the tar file, though, so I expect you're just whining in