Re: [9fans] mounting fossil

2013-03-14 Thread David du Colombier
I have an IDE HD with fossil (no venti) partition on it. It contains some data precious to me. I would like to mount it on a native Plan9; yes, I've RTFM, but it seems to me too brief for me to avoid (fatal) mistakes. Thus, could some nice person lead me step - by - step? Let's say your

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kyle Laracey
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:53:04 PM UTC-4, a...@9srv.net wrote: // It would be tres cool if this information was getting // mirrored in the Wiki. I've been copying over some of the more concise and complete reports, but yes: people with working setups should add their

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kyle Laracey
On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:47:45 PM UTC-4, Matthew Veety wrote: On Mar 11, 2013, at 16:36, Bakul Shah wrote: Note: if your host uses wifi but no ethernet, bridged adapter won't work. That's card dependent. It needs to support promisc mode AFAIK. Not all cards support it. I

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kyle Laracey
On Monday, March 11, 2013 12:36:25 PM UTC-4, erik quanstrom wrote: Neither have a very extensive description on their homepages. hmm. what kind of description are you expecting? - erik Sorry. I guess 9atom does explain that it adds specific hardware functionality and software,

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kyle Laracey
On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:56:16 PM UTC-4, Bakul Shah wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:47:45 EDT Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 11, 2013, at 16:36, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: Note: if your host uses wifi but no ethernet, bridged adapter won't

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kyle Laracey
On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:36:38 PM UTC-4, Bakul Shah wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:50:07 BST David du Colombier wrote: I've been trying for about two days to get the stock Plan9 from Bell Labs to install with Networking under Virtual Box Bell Labs Plan 9 and networking

Re: [9fans] Solicited VirtualBox submission (negative)

2013-03-14 Thread Kyle Laracey
On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:04:03 AM UTC-4, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: Hello, VirtualBox 4.2.6 on Mac OS X does *not* work with plan9.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data \ 'PLAN 9 - DEC 8 2012 04:00 ' Memory ranges: 128 - 1024 MB. Chipset: PII3X with/out I/O

Re: [9fans] Solicited VirtualBox submission (negative)

2013-03-14 Thread Daode
Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: | Does QEMU run on Mac OS X at all? | |Sure. I never got it compiled; i tried again and failed even after light configure hacking. But really, i'm happy with VirtualBox and even got Plan9 installed in the meanwhile; first made the big too disk (DOS

[9fans] ANTS: an attempt to bring ideas inspired by Nemo to standard Plan 9

2013-03-14 Thread mycroftiv
Hi 9fans, Since I have now released what I am calling Advanced Namespace Tools, I want to offer proper credit and citation for the primary design idea in ANTS. Let me clarify that Nemo and lsub did not directly advise or contribute, but the Plan B and Octopus papers provided foundational ideas

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Mar 14 09:06:51 EDT 2013, 23h...@gmail.com wrote: the difference about 9front is that it also works on real hardware, so you don't need to mess with these VMs. i think you misspelled similarity. i'm sure you can point to some instances of hardware not working in plan 9 and working in

[9fans] Acme hack

2013-03-14 Thread dexen deVries
I like my +Errors window clean once in a while. Attached patch provides Edit ,d by default in +Errors window tagline. -- dexen deVries [[[↓][→]]] From b4edef7c40de4c4a8678622e11eee8bd9aef8523 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:41:22

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:38:26AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: On Thu Mar 14 09:06:51 EDT 2013, 23h...@gmail.com wrote: the difference about 9front is that it also works on real hardware, so you don't need to mess with these VMs. i think you misspelled similarity. i'm sure you can

Re: [9fans] mounting fossil

2013-03-14 Thread a
// I have an IDE HD with fossil (no venti) partition on it. // It contains some data precious to me. David's already provided good instructions on dealing with your immediate problem, but allow me to take a step back: Don't do that! Fossil, without venti, is not the stablest thing around. I

Re: [9fans] Acme hack

2013-03-14 Thread yy
On 14 March 2013 14:44, dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com wrote: I like my +Errors window clean once in a while. Attached patch provides Edit ,d by default in +Errors window tagline. Not that I have any problem with this but, isn't it easier to just Del the window so that a new one is

Re: [9fans] Acme hack

2013-03-14 Thread dexen deVries
On Thursday 14 of March 2013 15:38:08 yy wrote: Not that I have any problem with this but, isn't it easier to just Del the window so that a new one is created when you need it? you are right. i use Edit ,d to preserve general window layout. i'm not happy with Acme's placement of +Errors

Re: [9fans] mounting fossil

2013-03-14 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
Thanks for warning! However, I reorganize my data very often, moving between dirs, renaming, reorganising tree structure... How will Venti cope with this? Fopr now, I plan to put the data onto an ext2 partition for now, until I feel the dir tree is well-designed. I just want to mount the fossil

Re: [9fans] mounting fossil

2013-03-14 Thread a
I reorganize my data very often, moving between dirs, renaming, reorganising tree structure... How will Venti cope with this? Well. Venti does block-level deduplication. If you have 100 MB of data in dir A and move it to dir B, you're not going to duplicate that storage (you'll get new blocks

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Matthew Veety
On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:43, Kyle Laracey kalara...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:56:16 PM UTC-4, Bakul Shah wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:47:45 EDT Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 11, 2013, at 16:36, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: Note: if your

[9fans] 9front Acme unresponsive to key presses

2013-03-14 Thread Daode
Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: |I don't think hiro was criticizing 9front as much as the fact that 9fans |seems to discuss p9p and vbox on osx more than any other software. I also installed 9front in the meanwhile (python, pfff), and learned that the (broken) hostname setup can be skipped

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mar 14, 2013, at 6:05 AM, hiro 23h...@gmail.com wrote: the difference about 9front is that it also works on real hardware, so you don't need to mess with these VMs. A VM is far more convenient and portable for me.

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mar 14, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Kyle Laracey wrote: On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:56:16 PM UTC-4, Bakul Shah wrote: Just discovered that at least on the MBP you can get bridged mode to work by using en1: Wi-Fi (AirPort). Really? I have the same setup as you mentioned, with Bridged Adapter,