2008/12/11 Russ Cox r...@swtch.com:
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:04 AM, simplicity plan9assemb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 9, 6:45 pm, r...@swtch.com (Russ Cox) wrote:
9vx now builds and runs on Ubuntu Linux x86-64,
and hopefully other Linuxes as well.
It also runs gs and ape/psh correctly.
I
2008/12/15 theotherji...@gmail.com:
Hello,
I was wondering if Plan 9 supports wireless Ethernet in its current
state. If it does (and I just can't find it), could you please give me
a link to follow. If it does not, I guess I will just begin to analyze
my current wireless driver (for Linux)
2008/12/17 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote:
Didn't know the amd64 kernel doesn't live in /sys/src/9/pc/.
OK, I am only responding to this because of the incorrect impressions
being left by these kinds of comments.
The backport
Hey guys,
Back in my ``let's have fun with Plan 9'' yearly phase.
Here I come back and I see some really cool work. 9vx definitely is
the coolest thing I've seen so far, and devtrace looks pretty nifty
too. What's really cool to me about them is that they're available and
there is open work to
2008/12/17 Roman Shaposhnik r...@sun.com:
On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
* Automatic provisioning via a web browser. Yeah, Plan 9 in the web
browser (if you have Java, I guess -- otherwise it's just VNC).
http://testbed.dh0.us/ -- this code isn't version controlled, but I
I really am getting to the deep guts of dev.c and chan.c here in
debugging why when ip/ipconfig tries to open /net/ether0/clone, it's
getting Enotfound. From my latest commit:
Fix some stuff with the ether controller attaching. It attaches now, but for
some reason clone screws up. I have no idea
The link routines happen very early, before any user code has run.
/lib/namespace is processed by user code.
So when the links are running, I think it is simply
that there is nothing bound to /net.
Russ
Thank you... I think I see the issue now. I'm also enjoying:
245
2008/12/18 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
Thank you... I think I see the issue now. I'm also enjoying:
245 /* set up the network so we can talk to
the venti server */
246 /* this is such a crock. */
Yes, yes it is...
--dho
we would
Meh, I keep forgetting to hit reply-all or something.
2008/12/19 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
That's where I was looking initially -- it looks like that's all only
done when you're connecting to a venti, and it seems like it
definitely happens after the links run anyway. Links happen
2008/12/22 Venkatesh Srinivas m...@acm.jhu.edu:
Hi,
The contrib index mentions that daily changelogs for Plan 9 are in
sources/extra/changes, but those haven't been updated since early 2007.
Is there any preferred way to get changelogs / diffs these days?
I used to maintain the changelogs,
2008/12/22 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
sorry to reply to myself, but the up in the kernel
belongs to an *io*, not the calling process.
That's weird, the up in the kernel that I was seeing belonged to
*init*. If you go further down into:
walk error 2: does not exist
You will see the
Hey everyone,
Over the past few days, Erik Quanstrom has been helping debug issues
with the native IP stack in 9vx. He figured out some crazy issues with
gcc wanting to return negative values for signed modulo comparisons --
this combined with a stupid oversight has got IP working. Erik says
he's
Hey guys,
This was in my gmail ads this morning:
http://www.glomationinc.com/
SBC ARM, 200MHz w/MMU, 32MB RAM, 128MB flash, Ethernet, Watchdog, RTC.
Optional WiFi module over USB. $49 -- but that says `quantity' price.
I don't know what it is at low quantity. I'll email. (Ok, I got the
email. At
2009/2/1 Mathieu lejat...@gmail.com:
As I naively see it, the two main problems are:
1) to have 9vx running a cpu server kernel instead of a stand alone
terminal one (I don't even know if that's the case actually).
i think there would be a little work in getting this going.
Ok, so it's
2009/2/2 Akshat Kumar aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net:
2009/2/2 Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com:
it might require a c-section.
might want to start with VLC or ffmpeg.
My aim was just to get 9fans talking about it.
Hence, the pushing.
But yes, what information can you provide
about either
2009/2/3 Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com:
the original question was about flash video.
many here seem to have interesting ideas, but obviously
not motivated enough to want to plan/research/read/understand.
two clues: mpeg4 and rtp
I think you mean RTMP. There are a couple of open RTMP
All parody aside, Bruce, the service did exist at one point, and it
existed because it was useful to enough people for the labs to make it
and set it up. It's been available for several years. Hiccups aside,
it's a bummer that it's down for so long. At this point, I'd think it
would be obvious
2009/2/10 Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com:
I just hate all the non-technical whining on here.
Agreed
Can someone look into the web interface? would have worked.
Agreed
brucee
-dho
2009/2/11 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
On Wed Feb 11 07:27:47 EST 2009, ano...@gmail.com wrote:
Devon got this working for him about a month and a half ago; see this
message:
http://9fans.net/archive/2008/12/501
I've still not made it work for me (on OS X), but i think the issues
On this note, Marco Peereboom has been working on epitome:
http://www.peereboom.us/epitome
--dho
2009/3/3 J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com:
Concurrency seems to be one of those things that's too hard for
everyone, and I don't buy it. There's no reason it needs to be as hard
as it is.
That's a fact. If you have access to The ACM Queue, check out
p16-cantrill-concurrency.pdf (Cantrill and
2009/3/4 Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com:
So, the web site's up, program is announced, and so on.
Was anyone planning on doing a Plan 9 application? I'm willing to
help, if anyone was planning on it, or lead, if not. In the later
case, I'd appreciate help (any of advice, materials, or labor)
2009/3/20 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, James Tomaschke ja...@orcasystems.com
wrote:
I would suggest the compiler as well, students are probably more familiar
with compiler concepts and it will probably be easier to mentor. In the
future, the porting work
2009/3/24 Rahul Murmuria rahul.is.a...@gmail.com:
I was poking around for what it would take to get there. I found
this[1]. I am basically looking to have a way to do routing using Plan
9. You can already do that on any standard Linux using Quagga[2] based
on GNU Zebra.
Maybe there is a
2009/3/24 Rahul Murmuria rahul.is.a...@gmail.com:
@ Devon:
About Packet Classification. I read that iptables is not needed on
Plan 9 because its mount /net over the network concept achieved
anonymity or transparency -- something along those lines. There are
no logs about who is sending what,
2009/3/25 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
I believe I have a rudimentary and probably non-working (at this
point) packet filter in /n/sources/contrib/dho somewhere (it was
written at least 4 years ago). I think it's called ``nfil.'' I
believe it is desirable. Others disagree. Its
2009/3/25 Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net:
[snip]
I don't know where the best place to suggest or discuss them would be,
but I thought this list would reach nearly everyone interested.
I've sort of volunteered myself to webmaster the gsoc.cat-v.org page
for this year's SoC, so if you have
2009/3/25 Bakul Shah bakul+pl...@bitblocks.com:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:00:58 EDT Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com
wrote:
While creating an
entire routing suite (such as Zebra/Quagga) is probably outside of the
scope of a 3 month project
2009/3/25 Paul Lalonde plalo...@telus.net:
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I'd like to see a 3D graphics protocol. Then I could run the host on some
linux or window or mac box to do the display, and run the graphics app in
Plan9, or inferno, or ...
And (heresy aside) I've
If you're interested in participating in the GSoC program, or for
ideas on open projects, take a look at http://gsoc.cat-v.org/ideas/
--dho
Another student I spoke to on IRC spoke of the possibility of
bootstrapping LLVM for Plan 9 on Linux and getting it to run natively.
That would give us a whole bunch of different compilers.
--dho
2009/3/25 Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.com:
do we need drawterm for the iphone? is anyone going to use it?
I mean, it's a tiny screen, typing on handhelds sucks, plus is not
that there is killer app Plan 9 has that you _must_ run.
am I forgetting something obvious?
Tiny screen,
2009/3/25 Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.com:
[snip]
As for applications for Plan 9, the ones we need (read to cope with
the rest of the world) are too big for a soc project, so even if I don't
like gcc, a port would help on this matter.
Yes and no. As long as there are reasonable
2009/3/25 andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com:
there are a couple of other problems that I see with dt on the iPhone:
- platform: google may be much more interested in seeing apps for the
G-phone than they are for the rival (but then, a g-phone version may
be much easier to do, and not
I'd like to note again that I was kidding about cfront _
2009/3/25 Paul Lalonde plalo...@telus.net:
A cfront-ish approach to templates leads to hellish duplication of
template-generated code in each module, and thence to even worse code bloat.
Of course, my understanding of what's possible in
2009/3/25 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com:
On Wed Mar 25 19:22:23 EDT 2009, devon.od...@gmail.com wrote:
Another student I spoke to on IRC spoke of the possibility of
bootstrapping LLVM for Plan 9 on Linux and getting it to run natively.
That would give us a whole bunch of different
2009/3/26 lu...@proxima.alt.za:
so if you have any ideas you'd like to get on
there, just mail them to me, or to the plan9-gsoc mailing list and
I'll get them plopped up there.
I'm actively working on GCC from two directions: a port of the Plan 9
libraries to a cross-compilation environment
2009/3/26 lu...@proxima.alt.za:
I've wanted to work with somebody
on Plan 9 as a routing device in networks for some time, at least in
the field of packet classification.
I'll be happy to help, too, if so desired, I have been playing with
IPFilters in a pretty serious way for many years
2009/3/26 Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Federico G. Benavento
benave...@gmail.com wrote:
I mean, drawterm for the iphone! why not for symbian?
I'd have no problems with those suggestions either, as far as multitouch
goes there are probably even
2009/3/26 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
so please stop saying that 9vx or inferno make drawterm obsolete
until that's actually true.
Additionally, both 9vx and inferno do actually execute code, which
would facilitate a breach of the SDK license.
- erik
--me
2009/3/26 Juan M. Mendez vej...@gmail.com:
Maybe porting parrot (http://www.parrot.org ) to Plan9 would be an
interesting Gsoc project
My co-worker is the backup org admin for Parrot (but is responsible
for the Perl 6 and Parrot programs). If there's real interest here,
submit a proposal for a
2009/3/26 Roman Shaposhnik r...@sun.com:
Somehow I didn't see the original email from Manzur (was it ever
posted to the list?) But given my personal interests, I'd be delighted
to help along with the gitfs.
Yeah, it was.
Since I've ignored most of the GSOC traffic so far, could someone,
2009/3/26 Pietro Gagliardi pietr...@mac.com:
On Mar 26, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
I'm merely trying to debunk roadblocks which others
seem to want to through in his way.
I don't want to throw a roadblock in this student's way. (In fact, drawterm
on iPhone benefits me too,
2009/3/27 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
It seems I'm hitting this error when sending some GET requests:
In /sys/src/cmd/webfs/url.c:
if(strstr(url, %00)){
werrstr(escaped NUL in URI);
return -1;
}
I haven't fully understood the comment
2009/3/27 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com:
Yeah, there aren't any. That's the point of URL encoding; NULL bytes
are as acceptable as any other, and your client should be able to
handle them -- so I think that webfs check is just bogus. It should
just encode it as a \0 and pass it through.
Hey all,
Trying to get an updated qemu image out that we can give to SoC
students, and I'm having some issues with the installer. I seem to be
stuck at the partdisk step. The partition seems to write fine to the
disk, but when exiting fdisk, it tells me I'm not finished with
partdisk yet. Using
2009/4/5 Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com:
Ideas?
Works fine if I turn off DMA.
--dho
2009/4/5 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/4/5 Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com:
Ideas?
Works fine if I turn off DMA.
no need to have DMA on on qemu anyway, so you have a workaround.
Except that it's
2009/4/5 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com:
I got confused. The problem you had with dma off was in qemu or on
real hardware? Sorry.
qemu, but it hardly seems fitting given the beefiness of the machine
the emulator's running on.
ron
2009/4/5 Bakul Shah bakul+pl...@bitblocks.com:
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:54:19 EDT Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/4/5 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com wr
ote:
2009/4/5 Devon H. O'Dell devon.od
2009/4/7 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com:
Can't remember if this one came up:
$59. http://www.ubnt.com/products/rs.php
Where do you find it for $59? Cheapest I can find from their page is $69.
--dho
2009/4/9 Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com:
set | wc -l
8047
well.
This is nearly as big as the shell itself in the (ahem) good old days.
term% tar tzvf interdata_v6.tar.gz bin/sh
--rwxr-xr-x 8316 Nov 13 15:48 1978 bin/sh
No, it's very likely bigger. wc -l is lines of course, and
I don't think there are video players.
Someone created an ffmpeg port, but I'm not sure if it does video
output or just conversion as I've never actually used it.
--dho
2009/4/15 Patrick Kristiansen patrick.kasse...@gmail.com:
Hello 9fans.
I'm thinking of writing a NAT implementation for plan 9. I have searched the
archives and I'm not quite sure how to get started.
Hi Patrick,
As I see it there could be three ways of approaching this:
1. User space
2009/4/15 Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com:
the idea is interesting, but it's a compliment, not a replacement.
there's plenty of situations where installing something on all your
hosts is either impractical or undesirable; centralizing the work in
network infrastructure is often a big win.
I've got a laptop that I (for shits and giggles) decided to put Plan 9
on. Lo and behold, it worked fine (Compal EL80, Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM,
nVidia video).
So, I'm running at 1280x1024x32 right now in VESA, which is
reasonable, but I'd like to run at my maximum native resolution, which
is
Thanks for all the tips, I'll see what I can get working (and perhaps
flesh out the wiki once it's working well, if it ends up being
different from what's already there).
--dho
Well, that ends up getting my screen to have a bunch of lines through
it, staggered -- so I'm not much better off than I was before. I'm
guessing that's an nVidia driver issue or something. If I had any idea
about video devices, I'd try to fix it, but I don't. I'll just live
with a bit low-res
2009/4/16 Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com:
Hello,
I've been wondering (and not reading much)...
If I'd like to use plan9 as a www server, is there anything ready?
Yes, there is a pre-built httpd and libraries for writing your own.
Recent apache probably doesn't compile in APE (but maybe
In the interests of academia (and from the idea of setting up a public
Plan 9 cluster) comes the following mail. I'm sure people will brush
some of this off as a non-issue, but I'm curious what others think.
It doesn't seem that Plan 9 does much to protect the kernel from
memory / resource
2009/4/16 hiro 23h...@googlemail.com:
What is the advantage of rails anyway?
I had a quick glance, but still don't really understand it's function.
MVC development model. Allows you to abstract the data from the code
from the design, but easily access needed parts from other needed
parts. One
2009/4/16 Venkatesh Srinivas m...@acm.jhu.edu:
Devlimit / Rlimit is less than ideal - the resource limits aren't
adaptive to program needs and to resource availability. They would be
describing resources that user programs have very little visible
control over (kernel resources), except by
One can indirectly (and more consistently) limit the number of
allocated resources in this fashion (indeed, the number of open file
descriptors) by determining the amount of memory consumed by that
resource as proportional to the size of the resource. If I as a user
have 64,000 allocations of
2009/4/16 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
have you taken a look at the protection measures already
built into the kernel like smalloc?
At least in FreeBSD, you can't sleep in an interrupt thread. I suppose
that's probably also the case in Plan 9 interrupt handlers, and this
would mitigate
2009/4/16 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
On Thu Apr 16 17:51:42 EDT 2009, devon.od...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/4/16 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
have you taken a look at the protection measures already
built into the kernel like smalloc?
At least in FreeBSD, you can't sleep in
2009/4/16 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
My misunderstanding then, as smalloc is available in port/alloc.c,
which is also compiled into the kernel. I'm not concerned about oom
conditions in userland.
smalloc is used in the kernel, but only when running with up (user
process) and only
2009/4/16 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
Right, we're saying the same thing backwards. I just am not sure why
smalloc was brought up. Yes, it is able to sleep until memory is
available for the operation, but it's not used *everywhere*.
that's part of my point. sometimes smalloc is
2009/4/16 Bakul Shah bakul+pl...@bitblocks.com:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:25:06 EDT Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com
wrote:
That said, I don't disagree. Perhaps Plan 9's environment hasn't been
assumed to contain malicious users. Which brings up the question: Can
Plan 9 be safely run
2009/4/17 Bakul Shah bakul+pl...@bitblocks.com:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:19:21 EDT Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/4/16 Bakul Shah bakul+pl...@bitblocks.com:
Why not give each user a virtual plan9? Not like vmware/qemu
but more like FreeBSD's jail(8), done more elegantly
2009/4/17 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
What if each user can have a separate IP stack, separate
(virtualized) interfaces and so on?
already possible, but you do need 1 physical ethernet
per ip stack if you want to talk to the outside world.
I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to add a
2009/4/17 Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com:
Writing the core of a blog engine in three lines of rc is hard to
beat, plus you get the benefit of being able to manipulate and manage
all your data using the tools any self respecting Unix user loves.
uriel
well, I haven't thought about it
Wait, am I on the wrong mailing list? Since when was this Fans of BSD
and Linux Talk about why Plan 9 Sucks Donkey Shit?
(I use FreeBSD and Linux. OTOH, I'm not on freebsd-general@ and centos
mailing lists talking about how our private namespaces and 9p are so
much shinier than VFS)
2009/4/17 Eris Discordia eris.discor...@gmail.com:
It's like I'm seeing an apparition of myself back more than a year ago. No
wonder 9fans got to dislike me so much. Do 9fans get nuisances like me in
regular intervals?
From time to time :)
We have a high conversion rate, though.
--dho
Given the feedback from the list, I've come up with two alternatives.
(Well, one of them was actually Mechiel's brainchild).
Idea #1 (From Mechiel)
Instead of doing typed allocations, give every user an allocation
pool, from which all kernel allocations will take place. To extend on
this, the
2009/4/20 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
i'm not following along. what would be the application?
Jukebox, perhaps?
- erik
Hey all,
That laptop that I was boasting ran Plan 9 flawlessly (minus the
non-native graphics) is now exhibiting some really weird behavior.
I've replaced the old Hitachi Travelstar disk (100GB / 7200RPM) with a
Seagate 320GB disk (5400RPM). I can install FreeBSD and CentOS fine.
When I try to
2009/4/23 Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net:
lcc is nothing like as hard to compile as gcc (which has got worse, much
worse, over the years).
funnily enough, my gcc bootstrap compilation is still going (on a multi-core
linux machine).
it started over an hour ago. bizarre.
(my
Hello!
Although I probably won't be able to go unless it's close (a.k.a. in
the Baltimore / Washington DC area -- which actually isn't perhaps a
bad idea?), the subject of an IWP9 has been brought up several times
this year. I'd like to get the ball rolling on this, in case anybody
is interested
2009/4/24 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
On Fri Apr 24 09:56:24 EDT 2009, devon.od...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello!
Although I probably won't be able to go unless it's close (a.k.a. in
the Baltimore / Washington DC area -- which actually isn't perhaps a
bad idea?), the subject of an IWP9
I made a logistics poll form based on all the ideas presented thus far.
It would be great if you guys could fill it in, there's like 6
questions and a comment field, so it should only take about 1 minute
total. Just trying to get a brief and centralized overview of what
everyone's personal
2009/5/19 rsbohn rsb...@gmail.com:
On May 15, 2:52 am, st...@quintile.net (Steve Simon) wrote:
Anyone got a script to generate a bootable plan9.iso cdrom image,
the mkfiles in /sys/lib/dist seem quite labs-specific.
-Steve
maht has some details on this. The stuff in /sys/lib/dist is indeed
2009/5/26 ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com:
I've just pushed out to sources a new USB implementation, courtesy of
nemo, who debugged and repaired our old UHCI and OHCI drivers, wrote a
new EHCI driver for USB 2, converted the user-mode drivers in /bin/usb
and tested it all, among other things.
2009/7/8 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com:
you say
I think, Google did not choose Plan 9 due lack of device drivers, poor
IPv6 support and confusing redundant fragment of code lurking around in
/sys/boot or 9load, but a compared with Linux a compact, clean and
much more efficient FreeBSD
I have very little idea about these fuckers. I know there are
baselines and ideas about m's and n's and kerning and whatnot.
But how do you make them? I played with some TTF font generators about
10 years ago that I'm sure I illegally obtained somehow, but I realize
that I have zero idea of how
2009/7/8 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com:
But don't underestimate the value of the interesting ideas in the
linux kernel that get the performance, e.g. RCU. I don't think there
are any OSes that have scaled to 4096 CPUs at this point besides
Linux.
i thought that massively parallel
2009/7/8 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com:
I'd love to do this, but I don't think anybody's going to
match my salary to port drivers, do ACPI, add amd64 support for
workstations, etc.
i told myself this for years. it turns out to be a mistaken
idea. now that i know, i regret the years i
2009/7/8 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Devon H. O'Delldevon.od...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think so. We already have IPv6 support and it's not that bad.
Having more drivers and supported commodity architectures would be a
good thing. I'd love to do this, but I don't
2009/7/8 Uriel urie...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Devon H. O'Delldevon.od...@gmail.com wrote:
ACPI support doesn't need to suspend or do thermal zones. It just
needs to be able to read the ADT and get MP / interrupt routing table
information. This is doable. Have you ever read
2009/7/8 Benjamin Huntsman bhunts...@mail2.cu-portland.edu:
Without this getting into a holy war, what Geoff told me was that the
amd64 work was for headless CPU servers, which is only mildly useful
to me anyway.
If it was released perhaps somebody would add the missing drivers, who
knows...
2009/7/8 Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org:
ACPI will never, ever, ever happen, so people better get over it (and
if anyone is naive enough to waste their time trying, it will end up
as a useless atrocious mess that wont boot even in a 100th of the
systems out there, much less suspend or
In light of Erik's response ``maybe you just don't know about them.'' I looked.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/sof/1243139762.html
Recent (posted 6/27). Looks like it's Plan 9 (probably Inferno) on a
smartphone. Thought it would be useful to post here in case anybody
else is looking for that
2009/7/9 Micah Stetson mi...@stetsonnet.org:
Why would it take a book? DMR made the point succinctly in his
critique of Knuth's literate program, showing how a few command-line
utilities do the work of the Don's elaborately constructed tries.
Do you have a URL for this?
I looked this up
2009/7/10 J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
I'm tired of the perpetual September, after several years of being
polite and pointing people to the wiki and the archives.
You could filter instead of bitching and contributing to the noise.
2009/7/13 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
after a week of fighting with an atom with ich7r sata in
ide mode, i finally found the secret sauce that keeps it
from hanging. i pushed out a changed
quanstro/9load-e820 and quanstro/sd which boot on my
atom machine in ide mode without causing
2009/7/13 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
This sounds promising for that ICH laptop with the 320G drive that
magically doesn't work (though the 120GB one that was in it was fine).
How do I get this on a disc to try it out?
can you pxe?
Not easily. The issue was a few bits in PCI
I believe Priyanka has some significant work on getting private
per-process namespaces in Glendix for this year's GSoC.
--dho
2009/7/14 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
On Tue Jul 14 02:41:02 EDT 2009, sqw...@gmail.com wrote:
I suspect the main inhibitor there is that (as I recall) it stomps
all over the existing soundblaster code. These days AC97 is probably
more desirable, but it would be nice to have them
2009/7/14 Tim Newsham news...@lava.net:
However, I still think this is worthwhile just to provide (a) a
standard interface for audio devices (e.g., /dev/audioctl always
accepts the same messages to set volume, input levels, etc), and (b)
to have a single kernel support more than one type of
2009/7/15 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com:
It's
a lot easier to see (and not have in the first place) incorrect scope
and continuation with whitespace than with braces or parentheses.
do you have a reference for this claim?
Without turning this into a holy war, I really always see these
2009/7/31 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com:
process1:
still in kernel:
memmove(buf, ...)
*fault*
trap()
fault386()
fault() = -1
if(!user){
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