On 27/07/2015 17:03, Ryan Gonzalez wrote:
I always thought is was that emulating an open-source application
platform is easier than emulating a black box like Wine does, as you
can see how things are done and the internal APIs and stuff.
Yeah, but you know that Wine Is Not an Emulator! ;-)
It's the first time I see http://9fans.net/archive/ not reflecting
today's e-mails.
Worse than this the last message if from Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:15:15 +0100.
I think http://9fans.net/archive/ is precious and hope nothing is going
wrong.
Nicolas
On 28/08/2014 10:20, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:
I'll try silent 8cm fan.
However it will rotate in full power anytime.☺
You can try to use a big 12v fan powered only using the 5v line.
If it has enough power to start, it should be quite silent and produce
a fair air flow compared to
On 01/08/2014 14:30, Joseph Stewart wrote:
Wow Nicolas, that is beautiful work... did you make a hardcover?
No I didn't, though that is possible (and marginally planned) thanks to
the two ribbons. Hardcover is another important step and I only did
paperback covers for a few other books. I
On 01/08/2014 04:16, Shane Morris wrote:
There are cards available for it that give it wired ethernet and four
USB ports
Do you mean RPi+-compatible extension cards? Because I didn't see any
wired ethernet extension on the ODROID-W page.
Nicolas
On 31/07/2014 17:22, Joseph Stewart wrote:
Would a service like http://www.lulu.com/ work for this? I don't know
what their cut is.
-joe
Using Lulu, it might also be easy to keep the manual update to date,
on a regular basis.
Since I like bookbinding I did one by my self:
On 21/07/2014 17:35, Brian L. Stuart wrote:
Would it be possible to create the option of merging these two buttons
for machines not blessed with the traditional rodent?
If you hold down the right shift key while pressing the right
button, it interpretes that as a middle button press. I'm not
On 11/06/2014 23:32, Bakul Shah wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 22:27:34 BST Robert Raschke rtrli...@googlemail.com wrote:
Whenever they are available, I use symlinks for shortening paths for
Acme. This is so far the only good use I've found for them ;-)
Symlinks don't help in the tag as pwd
On 08/06/2014 18:56, Bakul Shah wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 03:56:24 EDT erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
- try this out on a small scale before you commit to it, as I
suspect you'll run into various limits and may be bugs. Do
report what you discover.
- performance will likely
On 06/06/2014 11:10, Steve Simon wrote:
Glenda's world weary cousin
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpZjUjXIYAIJiua.jpg
Maybe the nsec patch would have been refused by this guy, right?!
(not a troll, just kidding!)
Nicolas
On 21/05/2014 17:36, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
PS: I have resurrected an old Nokia (5110, but I'm not sure) phone,
but it's been borrowed and I have my doubts that I will be seeing it
again any time soon. Maybe this forum can help me decide what GSM
equipment is safe from interference by
On 04/03/2014 12:28, Steve Simon wrote:
And I hate its scroll button,
but I love its three buttons!
I hate scroll buttons too.
I was very happy when I discovered the dell DY651A mouse:
http://www8.hp.com/uk/en/products/oas/product-detail.html?oid=403895#!tab=features
also branded as IBM
On 03/03/2014 18:41, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:02 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
Meanwhile, I ordered a used Evoluent vertical mouse from ebay and hope
to get started with plan9 from userspace. I couldn't find any other
usable 3 button mouse in
On 08/01/2014 09:11, Bence Fábián wrote:
I use
QEMU emulator version 1.6.0, Copyright (c) 2003-2008 Fabrice Bellard
I don't give any networking options at the command line and it works
for me. I use 9front but I don't think it matters.
I think Yoann asked how to connect to Plan9 from MacOS,
On 09/01/2014 17:10, Bence Fábián wrote:
In his mail he was trying to reach the host from the guest.
But the other way around he would need tun/tap. That's correct.
On 07/01/2014 23:16, Yoann Padioleau wrote:
How can I transfer files between plan9 and my host (I'm under macos)?
Not sure the
On 07/01/2014 01:02, phineas.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Nine 9s would have been symbolically better, but it cannot be made to
work graphically unless the scale is enormous. At screen resolution
the centre just becomes blurred. I had to settle for six nines (three
positive, three negative).
Peter
On 07/01/2014 18:17, Bence Fábián wrote:
Hi fans!
I want to mount my filesystem on a linux machine from plan9.
u9fs.log says:
u9fs
kill 23121
- Tversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000'
- Rversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000'
- Tattach tag 15 fid 527 afid
On 07/01/2014 19:20, Bakul Shah wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:00:42 +0100 Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote:
Also, regarding what Erik asked on 3rd January does anyone feel like
debugging an infinite os?, I feel Plan 9 offers an extra-wide range of
possibilities, approchoaching infinity
On 07/01/2014 18:33, Nicolas Bercher wrote:
maybe this is the same for mount:
-u bfabian -k 'user=bfabian'
Sorry, after a quick code exploration (mount.c), I think
this is a wrong assumption.
Nicolas
On 03/01/2014 23:07, phineas.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm tinkering with an alternative Plan 9 logo.
Any comments or suggestions? Is there even any interest in something
like this?
http://pdf.multics.org/9_Logo_Concept.pdf
Best,
Peter
Beautiful logo.
I wonder who could decide
On 05/01/2014 19:09, Shane Morris wrote:
Plan 9 Inside?
No, it's just Plan 9 inside 9 inside 9 inside 9 inside 9. (-;
Nicolas
On 10/12/2013 04:26, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
offtopic at this point, but anyways: I'm willing to bet that at least
a few pre-1998 cds from your collection were pirated copies from the
factory in Stara Zagora in Bulgaria our little claim to fame from
that period...
Ah ah, I've been in such
On 13/11/2013 20:33, erik quanstrom wrote:
has anybody done any work on a reasonable pdf viewer for plan 9?
gs just doesn't cut it. it works very poorly on 64 bit machines, and
also fails on a lot of datasheets i need to use even on 32-bit machines.
poor pdf support is my #2 problem with plan
On 19/04/2013 23:23, marius a. eriksen wrote:
% @{echo 1; echo 2; echo 3} | graph -a | plot
Yields only a lonely, blank window.
Using drawterm connected to a native Plan 9, it's working
but if I drag the window, the plot disappears (the window
becomes blank).
Nicolas
On 27/03/2013 15:18, Comeau At9Fans wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:33 AM, erik quanstromquans...@quanstro.net wrote:
On Wed Mar 27 08:26:04 EDT 2013, comeauat9f...@gmail.com wrote:
... I tried mv'ing the problem files and then back
but same results.
modulo other bugs, dossrv does
On 23/03/2013 20:23, ron minnich wrote:
I'll happily pay the price of bigger binaries for things such as the %v format.
I don't write hello, world that often, or even care about its size when I do.
One demo we used to do for Unix was show we could write an executable
program that was 2 bytes.
On 20/02/2013 15:04, erik quanstrom wrote:
4k drives only work in 9atom. and they're not recommended
as a boot drive.
Do you mean 4k drives that reports 4k block size or 4k drives that
report 512B?
i've found it hard to tell, even reading the data sheets if a drive
is 512 or 4k. but many
On 31/01/2013 18:44, Rox 64 wrote:
I don't see the problem. If I wanted to implement human beings, physical
laws, an universe and an operating system inside a missing text editor
inside a Lisp interpreter on a C compiler I'm pretty sure I would add 1200
options.
Anyway, I still love emacs.
On 23/01/2013 13:11, Richard Miller wrote:
But of course the pi has a FPU, GPU, ...
Indeed.
term% for (i in dh61 atom pi3 plug) {
cpu -h $i -c 'cat /dev/cputype
time factor 281476419553081/dev/null'
}
Core i7 2293
0.07u 0.00s 0.07rfactor 281476419553081
Atom
On 22/01/2013 18:06, erik quanstrom wrote:
sort of sad when the keyboard uses more power than the computer.
Sadly funny!
The PI is really power-efficient, this is quite impressive.
Thanks ARM!
I'm currently running two Atom-based servers for Linux and Plan9 (=40W
each), and it is possible
On 11/01/2013 12:19, Peter A. Cejchan wrote:
## How to do this with [acme | sam | sed ] ?
# compound commands
# remove outermost pair of braces: abcd(x+(y-z))efgh -- abcdx+(y-z)efgh
[ no idea :-( ]
Is this enough?
echo 'abcd(x+(y-z))efgh' | sed 's;\(;;' | sed 's;(.*)\);\1;'
On 11/01/2013 14:10, Peter A. Cejchan wrote:
echo 'abcd(x+(y-z))efgh' | sed 's;\(;;' | sed 's;(.*)\);\1;'
Thanks, this is fine for my purpose (porting from C to Go), thanks!
Just removing parens around for and if statements on a single line.
| 9 sed 's/\(//; s/(.*)\)/\1/'
(linux's
On 10/01/2013 18:20, Alexander Shendi (Web.de) wrote:
Hello 9fans,
I'm planning to install Plan 9 on a spare i386 machine, a Dell Inspiron Mini 9
netbook.
I have googled a bit and my best bet seems to be the 9atom distribution.
However
the netbook doesn't have a CDROM and I would habe to
Le 24/10/2012 20:03, s...@9front.org a écrit :
From: Theo de Raadtdera...@cvs.openbsd.org
Sender: owner-m...@openbsd.org
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221
Well, they are lying to everyone.
Their open source is nothing but a layer of code which calls into a
closed source back-end.
On 22/10/2012 21:20, ron minnich wrote:
if you're running xen you're almost certainly using a linux in dom0.
Given that, kvm is usually a better bet.
Right, dom0 is a Xen3 Debian.
OK, but that's strange, I read the opposite advice from you and Eric
Van Hensbergen :
Can anyone confirm that Plan 9 runs well under Xen4 ?
The only information I found about that is here:
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/18540414/dir/opensuse/com/xen-4.0.3_04-45.1.i586.rpm.html
But I'm not sure this isn't a copy-paste of the Xen3 package
description!
Thanks,
On 11/06/2012 16:03, Richard Miller wrote:
* Raspberry Pi
At least two 9fans are in the order queue for one of these.
+1, I received mine a few days ago. I can't wait to give a try to Plan9
on it!
Nicolas
On 03/08/2012 19:18, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
Hello,
This is mainly a theoretical question.
While playing with the representation of mathematical definitions as
a file hierarchy (at dot you find a DESC or whatever named file with
the description, and the subdirs are simply more restrictive
Le 18/06/2012 14:21, hiro a écrit :
Just to give someone who searches for some specific drawterm patch some help:
Skip once made drawterm work on ARMv6
https://bitbucket.org/9nut/drawterm-arm-patch and I changed the use of
swp to ldrex/strex which enables it to work on my ARMv7.
Also, the
On 21/06/2012 21:24, hiro wrote:
so you got a new iphone?
*the package doesn't install quite well (dependency problem?, I don't
there is a .deb package for an ARM drawterm?
Yep, and many other architectures as well:
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/drawterm
(I was wrong in my previous
Le 17/06/2012 19:20, arn...@skeeve.com a écrit :
http://raymii.org/cms/p_Small_Linux_PCs_overview
Arnold
Thank you a lot. There are some nice devices I've never heard
about before, including the Cubox.
Nicolas
Le 16/05/2012 14:24, Burton Samograd a écrit :
So, in the end I got 9front installed but now the bell labs wiki isn't
very helpful since so much has
changed, with the first being how to add a new user among other
things. To be honest, I'd rather
be using the Bell Labs iso so if anybody could
Le 16/05/2012 15:14, David du Colombier a écrit :
Have you enabled DMA at the begin of the installation
process? Whitout DMA, your disk i/o will likely be
something like ten times slower.
Is there any remaining reason today for dmaon not being the default?
Nicolas
On 10/05/2012 14:10, IainWS wrote:
Yes, but I get /bin/9fat does not exist.
Type 9fat: not 9fat
Nicolas
On 08/05/2012 11:34, IainWS wrote:
Hi there! I am trying to get involved more with plan 9 but having some
trouble finding resources on it that are all in one place. I have
started a blog so that I can add resources to make things more simple
for new users, and for the community in general. What
Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ?
Nicolas
Le 20/03/2012 15:10, Charles Forsyth a écrit :
You have to have got one first. My delivery note says May and the blog
said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from working).
OK, I'll wait.
For sure this device will stimulate some Plan 9 users!
Nicolas
On 02/03/2012 13:11, Charles Forsyth wrote:
Welcome to the world of Elsevier, Springer and Wiley.
On 2 March 2012 10:29, Francisco J Ballesterosn...@lsub.org wrote:
WoW! I hate them.
It seems my university is subscribed and I could browse it freely…
I'll talk to you off list.
Here at
On 30/01/2012 10:44, ROuNIN wrote:
Why can we not re-instate the following messages at least the done
halting:
term% fshalt
syncing.../srv/fscons...prompt: venti...
halting.../srv/fscons...
prompt:
done halting
That an important point to me: how can I be sure all of the fshalt stuff
is done
I'm not sure that this triggers fshalt on a virtualized Plan 9 machine.
Is there a way to properly shut down a Plan 9 vm when the host/dom0 shuts
down?
Thank a lot for your help.
Nicolas
tlaro...@polynum.com a écrit :
I never thought that perhaps, under Unices, du(1) with hard links will
produce the same misleading result...
And fortunately, Unices 'du' handles this correctly!
(-l option toggles the counting of hardlinked files several times or
not)
Nicolas
On 04/10/2011 19:08, Jens Staal wrote:
When I then try something like
cp -ar sources/plan9/sys/src/ape ape
I get an error stating:
unexpected open flags 050cp: can not open
”sources/plan9/sys/src/ape/9src/mkfile” for reading: Access denied
Hi,
This is working for me without plan9port
On 12/08/2011 14:37, erik quanstrom wrote:
i think you can do better for less with this:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPA-H-D525.cfm
it has better ethernet (intel 82574) and sm's mp tables are known
good enough for us. here's the slightly slower version that i
On 27/07/2011 10:39, kin loo wrote:
Thank you David du Colombier, it works. I can now use the most recent
score produced by dumpvacroots to restore the active and archive data
in a new qemu image. But the original 9fat partition still keeps in
the old qcow2 image.
Maybe you can copy this qcow2
On 14/07/2011 20:15, Jack Norton wrote:
Russ Cox wrote:
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Yaroslav yari...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the software which powers 9fans web archive publicly available?
it's not.
ahem... let me put on my pedantic shoes...
9fans.net/archive wrote:
powered by grep(1)
On 03/07/2011 23:08, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
they've changed everything else in unix, why hold so tightly to the clearly
unhelpful ideas?
because it's a cult. things don't make sense in cults. i encountered
the following quote the other day, which finally convinced me.
OK, maybe this is
Hi,
I'm currently looking for jobs in french research centers as a research engineer. I found
an open position in LIP (Lab of parallel programing, CNRS, Lyon, France) that is part of a
joint research unit with the Bell Labs, but I can't find any reference to Plan 9 in their
work.
Do you,
Hi,
I read the man page saying how to unlock the screenshot. But for sure typing the password
and then enter didn't work for me. Moreover, it is a little disappointing that nothing
either move or changes on the screen while I'm typing, so I don't even know if my typing
actually works!
So,
On 24/06/2011 21:59, Jack Norton wrote:
All,
I just had to post this on 9fans. Sorry if everyone has already seen it.
http://www.mini-box.com/pico-SAM9G45-X
Sorry, I have not such experience yet. However, this site might interest people that care
about energy efficiency in their servers.
On 09/06/2011 07:46, Gabriel Díaz López de la llave wrote:
hello
first time you boot, fossil dumps the whole fs to venti, and that takes
a while, and also this can make your system look like hanged, iirc you
can see what venti is doing listing the processes with control+t-p iirc
if your shell
On 09/06/2011 13:28, David du Colombier wrote:
- How do I achieve this? (via fossilcons?)
If you really want to do this, keep in mind you will lose
all your data on your fossil partition. You will definitely
lose all the temporary snapshots and all data not archived
to venti.
First of all,
Hi everybody,
I've read a lot of documentation so far but I'm still not able to draw how to mount an
inert fossil partition (i.e. available as a regular partition, but not used by the system).
I did some bad configuration and I can't boot my Plan 9. So I try to use another Plan 9
install to
On 08/06/2011 22:08, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
if the fossil partition is /dev/sdC0/fossil on the cpu you're on, you
should be able to bring it up (assuming the configuration is sane)
using:
fossil/fossil -f /dev/sdC0/fossil
OK, among the things I tried, I did this and had some complaints
On 08/06/2011 23:36, Gabriel Díaz López de la llave wrote:
hello
if the system can't boot, what are the symptoms? any error messages?
can't find the kernel? can't find sd device?
Good point. I don't really know what happened but the system started! Last time I tried,
I waited tens of minutes
Hi (again),
I can't access the fossil dumps on my recent Plan 9 (fossil+venti)
installation. I can:
term% 9fs dump
but can't list the dump directory content:
term% ls -l /n/dump
ls: /n/dump: block label mismatch
I also have 'overprinted black background messages of the death' saying:
On 05/06/2011 08:18, Josh Marshall wrote:
I'm chugging through the resources, reading, and documentation. This
system acts differently from anything I've previously used, so I'm at a
loss at...everything. I visited the IRC channel and am working through
the .pdf and the main site. Is there
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