Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-16 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 04:58:35PM -0700, Iruatã Souza wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Mark van Atten > wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Mart Zirnask wrote: > > > >> I'm a part-time writer and radio producer with no CS background, so I > >> even use this machine for

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

2018-06-14 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:22:24PM +0100, Steve Simon wrote: > > The bigger problem today is the lack of a modern web browser. > FWIW, there is a javascript engine in C: http://duktape.org/ and a browser if I'm not mistaken written in C (there is the choice between are several distinct

Re: [9fans] Plan 9's style(6) manual page

2018-04-07 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 01:14:33PM -0700, Ori Bernstein wrote: > On Sat, 07 Apr 2018 19:00:37 +0300, 8hal...@airmail.cc wrote: > > > Just an amateur C programmer looking for answers. My main inspirations for > > code style is K 2nd edition and I'm curious about the instructions in Plan > > 9's

Re: [9fans] There is no fork

2018-02-12 Thread tlaronde
2018-02-12 14:05 GMT+01:00 Ethan Grammatikidis : > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018, at 8:33 AM, Giacomo Tesio wrote: >> 2018-02-12 2:10 GMT+01:00 Ethan Grammatikidis : >>> linux-style package managers and bsd-style port trees facilitate and enable >>> coupling. >>

Re: [9fans] SMART: Silly Marketing Acronym, Rebuts Truth

2018-02-04 Thread tlaronde
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 10:10:39AM -0800, Erik Quanstrom wrote: >in my experience smart can be helpful diagnosing grey failures. but it's >useless to generalize about hdd or ssd firmware wrt smart data. I suspect that the huge majority of technical resources is nowadays put on improving the

Re: [9fans] SMART: Silly Marketing Acronym, Rebuts Truth

2018-02-04 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 03:59:26PM -0800, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >The interesting thing (for me) was that > >the SMART data from the drive gave it an all clear right to the end. But > >unlike the SSDs, there was plenty of behavioural warning to remind me to > >have the backups up to date and a

Re: [9fans] aijuboard

2017-12-20 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 09:22:36PM +, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > Hi Julius, > > I am sorry I didn't support this effort. I'm glad to see the successful > results. Thank you for sharing your great and creative work. > Same here. I didn't understand at first that it was 2015 and not now and

Re: [9fans] kerTeX update: m3D for 3D images with MetaPost

2017-08-22 Thread tlaronde
Hello, On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 06:39:25PM -0300, Iruatã Souza wrote: > On 08/17/2017 06:47 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have updated kerTeX. The most visible change for user is the > > possibility to use Anthony Phan's m3D macros for MetaPost allowing > > 3D figures (this

[9fans] hget rc vs. hget bin: fix in kerTeX

2017-08-20 Thread tlaronde
Hello, I have reinstalled Plan9 and since the "original" iso had many problems with my hardware, I went to 9front. I must say that this has solved a lot so thanks! to the ones that did some good job! Since in 9front, hget(1) is a rc script and not a binary, the usage of hget(1) for the kerTeX

[9fans] kerTeX update: m3D for 3D images with MetaPost

2017-08-17 Thread tlaronde
Hello, I have updated kerTeX. The most visible change for user is the possibility to use Anthony Phan's m3D macros for MetaPost allowing 3D figures (this is a package, so it is m...@mp.sh package and not included in the core distribution). I have tested (and corrected) compilation, installation

Re: [9fans] Partition problems

2016-11-20 Thread tlaronde
Hello, On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:07:03PM +, Steve Simon wrote: > Hi, > > I run a modified labs kernel with a few bits of 9atom to support my atom > Motherboard. > > I have added an ssd to the mirrored disks in my plan9 server. > The initialisation of devfs fails without a helpful error

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-08-23 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:01:48PM +0300, Costin Chirvasuta wrote: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Andrew Nazarov > wrote: > > I thought the same, but yesterday I noticed that suddenly gmail has begun to > > mark all the recent 9fans messages as spam. > > Same

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-08-22 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 02:14:54AM +, Staven wrote: > We live, we die, we live again! We simply sleep from time to time... -- Thierry Laronde http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-23 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 08:35:04PM +0100, hiro wrote: > downloads.kergis.com is some http server operated by OVH. > > it would be easier to post a pcap from a transfer where you control > both sides and possibly enable debugging of window sizes, timeouts, > packet loss, etc. in tcp.c like erik

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 04:45:12PM +, r...@hemiola.co.uk wrote: > >Does plan9 under lguest actually use the linux > >hardware services? Is plan9 under lguest using "its" implementation > >except for the low level device driving i.e. the ethernet provided > >by the Linux host? > > Yes. The

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 05:19:04PM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > I have hence to ask the provider if there is something, > > in their configuration, that could explain this > > If you can run NetBSD at the same time as Plan 9, you could also use > tcpdump (whatever its current

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:21:02AM -0500, stanley lieber wrote: > Have you tried setting and alternate user agent? > No. Is it possible to change the string for hget? -- Thierry Laronde http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.arts-po.fr/ Key

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 02:39:20PM +, r...@hemiola.co.uk wrote: > I get quite consistent results here. > > Downloading http://downloads.kergis.com/kertex/kertex_bundle.tar to /dev/null: > > linux over rtl8169 & ASDL : 5.4 seconds > plan 9 native over rtl8169 & ASDL : 12.4 seconds

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 05:20:40AM -0800, erik quanstrom wrote: > why? what's the evidence? > If I download from vanilla Plan9 (running on bare metal) data from _another http server_, I have correct results. So the problem is not with Plan9 per se, but downloading from _this_ site (and it is

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
FWIW, I have sent a request to my provider asking if Plan9/hget could trigger a "robot" rule leading to the throttling of the connection. -- Thierry Laronde http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.arts-po.fr/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 01:52:48PM +0100, Mark van Atten wrote: > Same 9front under virtualbox: > > term% time hget -o /dev/null http://mirrors.ctan.org/macros/latex/base.zip > 0.06u 0.24s 8.74r hget -o /dev/null > http://mirrors.ctan.org/macros/latex/base.zip Yes, this is the problem. It

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:17:30PM +, Richard Miller wrote: > > It seems that Plan9 is not at fault per se > > I think it probably is. Here's another data point (same ADSL connection) - The delicate point is: is plan9 at fault or it is the fact that it is advertised as Plan9 that is the

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 02:00:53PM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > It seems that Plan9 is not at fault per se, but the server I'm on has > > not a tremendous throughput, and since it is shared, varies greatly. > > It could be traffic related in a lot of ways. Or load related. Might > be

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:06:47AM +, Richard Miller wrote: > > If someone under Plan9 could try to download with hget(1): > > >From home (ADSL connection) - standard distribution on x86: > > 0.15u 0.16s 183.90rhget > http://downloads.kergis.com/kertex/kertex_bundle.tar > #l0: rtl8169:

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:15:41PM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > 0.10u 0.22s 192.79r hget -o kertex_bundle.tar > > http://downloads.kergis.com/kertex/kertex_bundle.tar > > > > This is under 9front under virtualbox 4.3.32. > > I get, from my workstation: > > 0.21u 1.34s 50.52r

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:40:18AM +0100, Mark van Atten wrote: > Dear Thierry, > > > If someone under Plan9 could try to download with hget(1): > > > > http://downloads.kergis.com/kertex/kertex_bundle.tar > > > > and give me the time (it is a 10MB file) to do so, > > 0.10u 0.22s 192.79r hget

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-22 Thread tlaronde
Actually, the sources are up-to-date. Setting "tcp" for /net/log doesn't produce any message. Since the problem is with one address (http://downloads.kergis.com/), I will have to snoopy the interface to have a clue about what is going on (is the negociation leading to this poor performance? Are

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-20 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 08:41:01PM +0100, Mark van Atten wrote: > > i think that david has a mirror up, and 9fs sources still works here. > > http://9p.io/ Thanks, Mark! -- Thierry Laronde http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.arts-po.fr/ Key

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-20 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 11:26:58AM -0800, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > anyway, please update your tcp. the debugging tools that are most > > > helpful with tcp are > > > /net/tcp/stats > > > /net/tcp/*/status > > > echo tcp>/net/log && tail -f /net/log > > > > To update I need to update the

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-20 Thread tlaronde
> anyway, please update your tcp. the debugging tools that are most > helpful with tcp are > /net/tcp/stats > /net/tcp/*/status > echo tcp>/net/log && tail -f /net/log We have definitively not the same systems ;-) The echo tcp brings an error for netlog. But for further puzzling things (for

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-20 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 09:20:52AM -0800, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sat Feb 20 06:04:02 PST 2016, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 02:31:54PM +0100, hiro wrote: > > > what is the latency on WAN? > > > > When using traceroute, I have 42.6ms for a roundtrip > > (cf. with

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-20 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 04:06:24PM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > But the very same machine, under NetBSD, with the very same ip address, > > downloads the very same file from the very same external server > > (downloads.kergis.com) in 17s, while hget(1) spends 6 minutes doing > > it. > >

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-20 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 02:31:54PM +0100, hiro wrote: > what is the latency on WAN? When using traceroute, I have 42.6ms for a roundtrip (cf. with LAN: 0.23ms). But the very same machine, under NetBSD, with the very same ip address, downloads the very same file from the very same external

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-20 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 12:23:29PM +0100, Kenny Lasse Hoff Levinsen wrote: >> [rtl8169 gbe full speed on LAN; very slow on WAN] > Is your MTU higher that 1500? That might be able to mess things up over the > internet. > Thanks for the suggestion but no: even with -m 1500, speed is still awful.

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-20 Thread tlaronde
I have compared downloading a file (via ftpfs) on the LAN, and downloading it from the WAN. On the LAN, I get the 10MB file in less than a 1s (this is normal since the node I download from has only a 100Mb ethernet). On the WAN, it takes 6 minutes (with hget). My conclusion is that the card

Re: [9fans] NetSurf (browser) and Duktape (javascript)

2016-02-19 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 02:00:47PM +0100, Kenny Lasse Hoff Levinsen wrote: > Styling/proper rendering might be more interesting than JS. > Unfortunately, today, there are a number of sites that require javascript. I don't speak about overloaded media sites. But for example bank or even

Re: [9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-19 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 05:22:42AM -0800, erik quanstrom wrote: > the 8169 driver is pretty fast. I've measured it at more than 500mbps. > it sounds like something else is misbehaving. what does > /dev/irqstat say. I bet something is stuck. > Is /dev/irqstat a lapsus? Here are /dev/irqalloc

Re: [9fans] NetSurf (browser) and Duktape (javascript)

2016-02-19 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 01:17:12AM +0100, Aram H?v?rneanu wrote: > What problem would this solve, it's not like netsurf can display any > useful web page that mothra can't display. NetSurf will incorporate Duktape javascript engine. Does Mothra have javascript? -- Thierry Laronde

Re: [9fans] NetSurf (browser) and Duktape (javascript)

2016-02-18 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 08:41:27PM +0100, Jens Staal wrote: > 2016-02-18 15:26 GMT+01:00 : > > > NetSurf (http://www.netsurf-browser.org/) is a browser written in C. And > > Duktape is a javascript engine written in C too. > > > > Has anybody given them a look? > > > >

[9fans] rtl8169 gbe slow

2016-02-18 Thread tlaronde
Hello, I have finally managed to install plan9 on my new workstation. By putting back the keyboard on the PS2 connector, I have solved some unfelicities (with the USB->legacy emulation, the keyboard switched every other typing to UPPERCASE...). The mouse, still USB connected and hence

Re: [9fans] plan9.ini: ipconfig and bootargs

2016-02-15 Thread tlaronde
Hello Erik, On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 07:41:37AM -0800, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sun Feb 14 08:30:20 PST 2016, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > Hello, > > > > When trying to re-install a Plan9 on a new node, being unable, with the > > kernel compiled present on the CDROM image, to access a FAT or

[9fans] plan9.ini: ipconfig and bootargs

2016-02-14 Thread tlaronde
Hello, When trying to re-install a Plan9 on a new node, being unable, with the kernel compiled present on the CDROM image, to access a FAT or an iso image of a root file system, I went to a combination of a minimal sketch of a plan9 slice, with a 9fat made "by hand" (from an already installed

[9fans] bad character set for rune...

2016-02-10 Thread tlaronde
Hello, I'm on the way to install Plan9 on a new node. Since with the CDROM or the (different flavors of) USB images, it doesn't work, I'm "bootstrapping" by hand. I have made, from an external OS (NetBSD), a plan9 partition with the initial 9fat configured and populated in order to be able to

Re: [9fans] bad character set for rune...

2016-02-10 Thread tlaronde
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:40:21PM +0100, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > Well, it works, but when launching the installation (I have copied the > various scripts so that they are in the served /), I have the message, > continuously repeated: > > bad character set for rune 0x in

Re: [9fans] Install: root file system

2016-01-11 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 06:06:57PM -0200, Iruatã Souza wrote: > Never tried it, but you could try installing 9front, then your > distribution of choice atop of that. If nothing else works, I will fall back to a kernel loaded locally from the sketched "by hand" plan9 partition (indeed the 9FAT at

Re: [9fans] Install: root file system

2016-01-03 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Jan 02, 2016 at 04:26:39PM -0800, erik quanstrom wrote: > i'm not sure what the root cause of your problem is, I'm now suspecting that the underlying problem is that a 9fat is a dos, but that is a special dos: part of a plan9 slice, so whether kfs or fossil supplementary partitions are

Re: [9fans] Install problem: disks not listed

2016-01-02 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 01:25:20PM +0100, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > I have a new node and I'm trying to install Plan9 on it (it is a > multiboot node, with already NetBSD and Windows). > > When booting (from Bell Labs' iso), the disks are found as sdE[12], the > CD driver as sdE0 that are

[9fans] Install: root file system

2016-01-02 Thread tlaronde
Hello, As explained in a previous message, I try to install Plan9 on a new node (previous one defunct). I have tried the usb Bell Labs and 9 atom flavours, and none works on my node. The Bell Labs iso works (I mean it boots and the install starts) but 9pcflop doesn't recognize my disks (while

Re: [9fans] Rio: possibility to forbid resizing a window?

2016-01-01 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 02:58:07PM -0800, erik quanstrom wrote: > > Is there such possibility with rio? > > yes, this is implemented by games/sudoku. just refuse to resize. > Thanks. I will give a look to the code. -- Thierry Laronde http://www.kergis.com/

[9fans] Install problem: disks not listed

2016-01-01 Thread tlaronde
Hello (and best wishes to all for 2016!), I have a new node and I'm trying to install Plan9 on it (it is a multiboot node, with already NetBSD and Windows). When booting (from Bell Labs' iso), the disks are found as sdE[12], the CD driver as sdE0 that are all on SATA. But when going to

[9fans] Rio: possibility to forbid resizing a window?

2015-12-31 Thread tlaronde
Hello, After a long delay, I'm working back on kerTeX and I'm adding the display for METAFONT (it's more interesting than one could think, since METAFONT is the program mainly ignored while being a drawing program and a rasterizer engine...). But once the size of the root window for display

Re: [9fans] Rio: possibility to forbid resizing a window?

2015-12-31 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 07:33:42PM +, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > I wonder if it would work if wctl was chmod to read-only? Might break other > things. Hum... Thanks for the suggestion, but I imagine that rio, when a user resizes with the mouse a window, does not send commands, pixel by pixel,

Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux

2015-11-29 Thread tlaronde
On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 07:57:58AM +0200, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > I remember using AutoCad 2.6 on an 8086 with a floating point > accelerator and being impressed by the speed of its 3D rendering. I > have no idea how AutoCad behaves these days, but faster rendering > would imply

Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux

2015-11-27 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 09:13:20AM +0100, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > I know nothing about compilers, but actually gcc and clang dimension and > complexity is astonishing. It's not astonishing: it's research. They want to prove that a black hole does exist. So they write a "model", a software

Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux

2015-11-27 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 03:07:30PM +0100, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > Funny, but actually I was wondering if there is any subtle issue in the > standards of the C language that makes it somehow hard to implement. I guess it depends on what is the "standard". The naked C language is (was) simple.

Re: [9fans] Undefined Behaviour in C

2015-11-26 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 06:22:45AM -0500, Brantley Coile wrote: > > I thought the same thing, using ~0 for nil, but realized two things. First, > that's a valid address on the PDP11 where the convention developed. It's the > unibus space. Second, ~0 + member offest is still in page zero. >

Re: [9fans] p9p sed vs linux sed

2015-08-12 Thread tlaronde
. This means that it is a grey zone and depends on things that are not all explicitely stated and that the p9 sed(1) is not, from the/some specification, at fault. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http

Re: [9fans] origins of configure

2015-07-09 Thread tlaronde
to the bare minimum. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.arts-po.fr/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

[9fans] Gsoc: Plan9 not the only one

2015-03-06 Thread tlaronde
tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.arts-po.fr/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Factotum vs SASL

2014-12-01 Thread tlaronde
. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.arts-po.fr/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] OT: What linux has become

2014-08-13 Thread tlaronde
the supplementary knots...and a week to try to undo them after they spent some hours in the water... Are there still human beings believing that progress is a function of chronology: the newer, the better? -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http

Re: [9fans] Many bugs in eqn(1)

2014-08-13 Thread tlaronde
and docs? (Translation of the troff macros to TeX ones etc.---not to mention that for TeX (kerTeX), it needs to be converted for utf-8 input; that's on my TODO list but I need to finish the rewrite of the T1 lib for dvips(1) first, and the display for METAFONT.) -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde

Re: [9fans] Many bugs in eqn(1)

2014-08-13 Thread tlaronde
) With kerTeX, we are back with the needle only and not the whole hay stack and the whole core thing is really, really small. Including fonts. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.renaissance-francaise.fr/ Key

Re: [9fans] Many bugs in eqn(1)

2014-08-13 Thread tlaronde
underneath. And if one doesn't understand TeX, one is unlikely to even have a clue about why the LaTeX macros do not do what one supposed them to do... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.renaissance-francaise.fr

Re: [9fans] The developers of Plan9 think there was no point in coding in binary code three years ago as they did or make the Riga Technical University and University of Latvia?

2014-08-13 Thread tlaronde
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Re: [9fans] Compiler Message

2014-07-21 Thread tlaronde
it is defined in the mkfiles (perhaps it is necessary for gcc, doing things, and not necessary with another compiler, so the compiled program will not exhibit any problem). HTH -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http

Re: [9fans] Plan9 Sources Repository

2014-07-19 Thread tlaronde
level. For kernel, the problems may be more involved. But clearly, the number of persons able to contribute is far more limited. And consistency shall be the primary aim. So an organization good for a small team is an organization good for kernel level. My 1 cent, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] fast kernel compile

2014-05-06 Thread tlaronde
architectures. And it is even not a problem reserved to Plan9. On a NetBSD, I tried to compile chrome. The PC had even not enough _memory_ to link the thing... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.renaissance

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] fast kernel compile

2014-05-06 Thread tlaronde
for others than Plan9 since these things are so huge and complex and need so many pieces than even on Unix like systems, one may not be even able to link the thing. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http

Re: [9fans] ehci/uhci interrupts

2014-05-05 Thread tlaronde
to the Elsevier's dictionary of computer science and mathematics that only gives the vocabulary in 4 languages : english, german, french, russian. It happens that my native tong is one of them. Some expressions are impossible to guess or to obtain by raw translation. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde

Re: [9fans] New /prog idea

2014-05-05 Thread tlaronde
... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.renaissance-francaise.fr/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] ehci/uhci interrupts

2014-05-04 Thread tlaronde
way to truth), let the translation in C (pseudo-english) begin. I don't think too that the trafic on the list is too high to forbid, once somebody has something ready for review, to put a link and to ask for comments. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

Re: [9fans] ehci/uhci interrupts

2014-05-03 Thread tlaronde
if no one provides any feedback; your efforts are appreciated, even if I speak only for myself. Same here. I'm silent---because I have nothing interesting to say---but I'm listening and being ashamed of not doing enough. This simply put higher the ones who do. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde

Re: [9fans] cannot find sources - have I missed somthing?

2014-02-24 Thread tlaronde
-- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.renaissance-francaise.fr/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-06 Thread tlaronde
don't they go back to paper alone? -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.renaissance-francaise.fr/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-07 Thread tlaronde
open source, this is because _I_ owe something to the developers who wrote code that _I_ use (I owe to the Bell Labs for Unix and Plan9; to BSD CSRG; to D.E.K.; to the original CERL GRASS developers etc.; counting, this is not a lot of people...). -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-07 Thread tlaronde
.) The gratis software has not been gratis for the ones who have written it. It took time. The bulk of the difference is here. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-07 Thread tlaronde
an effort?!!! To _work_?!!! Fascism! KerTeX is downloadable for compilation (and I have eased it a lot). Since I do not offer compiled tarballs to magically have, a lot of the people look, ... and go away... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http

Re: [9fans] mallocz in APE

2013-07-18 Thread tlaronde
; with the standard, one could prove being right; without the standard, one can only prove being OK so far...) -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Install Advice requested

2013-06-30 Thread tlaronde
mandatorily if your CD/DVD works, but it will give you clues about the organization of the plan9 slice. HTH, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C Installing

Re: [9fans] Install Advice Requested.

2013-06-30 Thread tlaronde
to complete. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread tlaronde
, and 2.88MB is perfectly supported. There is also hd emulation, but this it seems not to be widely supported by BIOSes. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] 9n

2013-06-17 Thread tlaronde
that does the job for me and that I didn't want to support for others. It went publkic by side effect (and the support will be limited to kerTeX use). -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-02 Thread tlaronde
by loading them via TFTP before going any further. Best, -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-02 Thread tlaronde
how far I will go, but I'm sure to learn a couple of things in the way... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

[9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread tlaronde
vma ced027b0 (addr 405f3000 flags 08d5 phy 075b7000) from pid 2721 Uncached vma c61b0bd0 (addr 405f3000 flags 08d5 phy 075b7000) from pid 2722 -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread tlaronde
/real need coverage: in DAO/CAO, survey, GIS, mapping etc. there is a need for a versioning of binary files without an explosion of the size of data; the WORM addresses this). -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread tlaronde
, but if one can get rid of the software and deal with the hardware...). -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread tlaronde
)-- RD-88F6281A Soc: 88F6281 A0 LE That is openRD (Marvell 88F6281), it is a starting point for playing with it... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] Scrolling considered harmful

2013-05-06 Thread tlaronde
accordingly. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] anyone attempted to build ghostscript recently?

2013-05-04 Thread tlaronde
. # printf '@PJL INQUIRE PERSONALITY\n' printf '@PJL INQUIRE RESOLUTION\n' printf '@PJL INQUIRE RESOURCESAVE\n' # End of job # printf '%s' $PJL_UEL exit $LPD_OK -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF

Re: [9fans] Octets regexp

2013-05-03 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 04:17:11PM -0400, 9p...@imu.li wrote: if we're talking about xd, i'll suggest 'tcs -f 8859-1' again in which case: My question was _not_ related to text, and _not_ related to french i.e. 8859-1. I know how to deal with this. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde

Re: [9fans] anyone attempted to build ghostscript recently?

2013-05-03 Thread tlaronde
dvips for direct printing to real PostScript interpreters (with embedded compliant PostScript standard fonts). Isn't there a sentence about wanting a banana, and being forced to have a Gorilla handing the banana with the whole jungle around? -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

Re: [9fans] Octets regexp

2013-05-03 Thread tlaronde
the problem of the rendering (or create a special font that displays octal, hexadecimal or whatever playing with the index of the glyphes; but this will work for octets, and will be more difficult if one wants to deal with wydes; impossible with tetras and octas). -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde

Re: [9fans] anyone attempted to build ghostscript recently?

2013-05-03 Thread tlaronde
the obligation of the former; not the latter. This the sense of my comment. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] anyone attempted to build ghostscript recently?

2013-05-03 Thread tlaronde
... -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

Re: [9fans] anyone attempted to build ghostscript recently?

2013-05-03 Thread tlaronde
will still produce DVI, even with extensions, and not directly PDF.) What would be fun would be a... PDF to DVI converter (because it will mean a huge part of dropping features---/dev/null is something I can not do without.) -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com

Re: [9fans] Scrolling considered harmful

2013-05-03 Thread tlaronde
=- To be continued: 1) How to fill vgadb. 2) What to pass to aux/vga to not be in 640x480x8 because termrc fails to this default. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006

Re: [9fans] Scrolling considered harmful

2013-05-03 Thread tlaronde
to see if the freeze do not happen again. -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com http://www.kergis.com/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C

[9fans] Equivalent of unix vis(1) with font

2013-05-02 Thread tlaronde
, but filling supplementary glyphes for the invisible characters, à la EOF, with say a '-|' for a tab, a '|_|' for a space (it is used by D.E.K. and Silvio Levy' CWEB rendering for strings in source), a diagonal '^@' etc. for controls or whatever? -- Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum

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