On May 30, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote:
pretty difficult to do if there is a desire to use git or hg.
does hgfs use APE? I haven't investigated too closely.
hgfs is a read-only Hg tool written in Limbo. You still need hg running
on your host to pull/commit/push
On May 30, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:
On May 30, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote:
pretty difficult to do if there is a desire to use git or hg.
does hgfs use APE? I haven't investigated too closely.
hgfs is a read-only Hg
On May 30, 2015, at 11:54 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
I would very much like to see this fast and conformant, so that APE
awk can be thrown in the trash.
i don't understand this. awk is bwk's ota source, with some minor tweaks to
fit the
environment. it works well,
Quoting lu...@proxima.alt.za:
It is the Plan 9 Way (TM) to avoid nested inclusion of header files,
although I guess the APE may be exempted.
while I agree it's not very plan-9-like, the posix standard is horrible and
broken and nobody should be surprised that the easy way to implement it
this doesn't seem like motiviation to rewrite awk. there must be another
reason?
I think rewrite is a mischaracterization (nobody is talking about re-
implementing the awk interpreter), so arguing against that seems to be beside
the point. Probably, port awk to Plan 9 without using APE is
lu...@proxima.alt.za:
It may be worth twisting Aaron's arm, he may well have a test suite
for GAWK that can be used here?
The gawk test suite is part of the dist. See test/Makefile.am for the
list of tests that are general and those that are gawk specific.
I've tried to keep the separation
On Sat May 30 13:36:14 PDT 2015, s...@9front.org wrote:
On May 30, 2015, at 11:54 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
I would very much like to see this fast and conformant, so that APE
awk can be thrown in the trash.
i don't understand this. awk is bwk's ota source, with
On Sat May 30 21:43:03 PDT 2015, k...@sciops.net wrote:
Quoting arn...@skeeve.com:
BWK has said that malloc affects the performance of his awk; I think
it's in his README file.
Yes, it was explained to me that plan 9 malloc does useful things instead
of just shoving things into the
Quoting arn...@skeeve.com:
BWK has said that malloc affects the performance of his awk; I think
it's in his README file.
Yes, it was explained to me that plan 9 malloc does useful things instead
of just shoving things into the first available hole like APE malloc.
I'm reasonably certain
Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
instead of guessing, you could see if the pool library's checks are
really a bottleneck.
it is straightforward to add header and tail magic and the callerpc
stuff to ape
malloc and run the comparsion again.
otherwise, it seems far more likely
On Sat May 30 22:02:11 PDT 2015, quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
On Sat May 30 21:43:03 PDT 2015, k...@sciops.net wrote:
Quoting arn...@skeeve.com:
BWK has said that malloc affects the performance of his awk; I think
it's in his README file.
Yes, it was explained to me that plan 9
and the
MKS awk as found in the various OpenSolaris derivatives
MKS was my introduction to Unix, I was a PCDOS user back then :-)
It's interesting to hear about that port. I still tread carefully in
vi because of a minor nit (which my fingers remember better than my
brain) with backspace in
It is the Plan 9 Way (TM) to avoid nested inclusion of header files,
$ arch/dat.h includes port/portdat.h in kernel. Exempted too?
That's out of necessity, the alternative(s) would be considerably less
practical. If memory serves, port/portdat.h is not strictly a header
file in the
Quoting Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net:
Paul wrote it from scratch.
No he didn't; he started with Boyd's awk. Been a while since
I looked at the commit history. Sorry.
khm
Den 30 maj 2015 08:41 skrev lu...@proxima.alt.za:
does anyone want to help test pap's native awk?
Build it and they'll come :-)
URL? Is it portable? How carefully was it ported?
It may be worth twisting Aaron's arm, he may well have a test suite
for GAWK that can be used here?
Lucio.
Quoting lu...@proxima.alt.za:
does anyone want to help test pap's native awk?
Build it and they'll come :-)
URL? Is it portable? How carefully was it ported?
It may be worth twisting Aaron's arm, he may well have a test suite
for GAWK that can be used here?
Lucio.
Paul wrote it from
On 30 May 2015 at 08:21, Jens Staal staal1...@gmail.com wrote:
am also interested in seeing how compatible the ported m4 is with GNU m4
if there are good tests
GNU m4 is insane, and completely missed the point about GPM (and thus m4).
My m4 port is based on Ritchie's m4, although I might
Den 30 maj 2015 10:23 skrev Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com:
On 30 May 2015 at 08:21, Jens Staal staal1...@gmail.com wrote:
am also interested in seeing how compatible the ported m4 is with GNU m4
if there are good tests
GNU m4 is insane, and completely missed the point about GPM
I would very much like to see this fast and conformant, so that APE
awk can be thrown in the trash.
In my wild dreams I wish for a native version of ghostscript (the only
justified use of APE, if you believe in fairness (or fairy tales :-)).
But maybe Go will eventually stimulate development
does anyone want to help test pap's native awk?
Build it and they'll come :-)
URL? Is it portable? How carefully was it ported?
It may be worth twisting Aaron's arm, he may well have a test suite
for GAWK that can be used here?
Lucio.
I am not saying that they are the ideal or good tools - just that most 3rd
party source expect certain behavior and a compatibility environment
(like APE) has as first priority to deal with 3rd party stuff. Enabling as
much as possible without judgement is at least to me desirable.
Remember
I would very much like to see this fast and conformant, so that APE
awk can be thrown in the trash.
i don't understand this. awk is bwk's ota source, with some minor tweaks to
fit the
environment. it works well, and allows portable awk to be written. can you
explain what is to be gained by
Personally, it's just one more reason to reduce our nation's dependence on
foreign code -- does anyone want to help test pap's native awk?
pretty difficult to do if there is a desire to use git or hg.
- erik
Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
i don't understand this.
It is a personal preference not rooted in any technological excuses.
pretty difficult to do if there is a desire to use git or hg.
does hgfs use APE? I haven't investigated too closely.
khm
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