Re: [9fans] Questions on the browser as a platform if plan 9 had gained marketshare

2016-09-19 Thread Marshall Conover
Thanks, Chris! That was a lot more detailed than I had thought into it. > You just mount search engine, route planning tool, or even shopping site and echo commands into the ctl file. I hadn't thought of this - was more thinking on the user union mounting, say, google.com/bin into their bin

[9fans] Questions on the browser as a platform if plan 9 had gained marketshare

2016-09-20 Thread Marshall Conover
> Ken and rob are currently working at google trying to make sure it stays so - the idea being that if the stupid people that control the real OS can't be made to learn at least they'll make themselves an abstract environment that can hide the past and all the pain, to then work on interesting,

Re: [9fans] Questions on the browser as a platform if plan 9

2016-09-19 Thread Marshall Conover
> I wonder if 9p could be implemented on an SoC. It'd be neat for the whole 'internet of things' hullabaloo.

Re: [9fans] Questions on the browser as a platform if plan 9 had gained marketshare

2016-09-19 Thread Marshall Conover
> Mounting a bin directory from some remote servers is a potential vector for malicious code and requires all services to provide binaries for all platforms (arm, x86, riscv,...). Instead, serving the source code and mkfile allows for audit ability (what did I just run?) and support for their own

[9fans] Questions on the browser as a platform if plan 9 had gained marketshare

2016-09-17 Thread Marshall Conover
Hi all, For context, I am a plan 9 novice - I've played around just enough to add jury-rigged background-image support for rio (for better or worse), implore sl - if I remember correctly - to add the ^B option to 9front's rc that brings the cursor to the current input place, and, for what it's

[9fans] The correct way to do an incorrect thing

2016-09-28 Thread Marshall Conover
Hi all! As an awful person, I hacked rio's data.c to support backgrounds. Because the default code took a 1-by-1 pixel grey image and tiled it, I just shoved a line in there to load an image file instead using readimage(). (Hacked really is the appropriate word here.) My question is, would the

Re: [9fans] Questions on the browser as a platform if plan 9 had gained marketshare

2016-10-01 Thread Marshall Conover
> I was browsing of my old plan 9 mail and this conversation from 2000 made me think of your thread here: https://goo.gl/PO85oD That conversation was interesting! It seemed Matt was a pretty prescient guy. The "supports the latest standards...whose?" bit gave me a chuckle. There wasn't too much

Re: [9fans] Making available a pre-compiled go binary for Miller's plan-9 Pi image (Chris McGee)

2016-10-28 Thread Marshall Conover
> An alternative to building a Go 1.4.3 bootstrap environment, is to build a Go 1.7 bootstrap environment for Plan 9 in a mainstream environment ... > If you want to build the current Go source from scratch on plan9/386, you can just do... The binary I built was specifically for arm (or more

Re: [9fans] Making available a pre-compiled go binary for Miller's plan-9 Pi image

2016-10-31 Thread Marshall Conover
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 4:14 PM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: > > As you wish: > > http://www.9legacy.org/download/go/go1.7.3-plan9-386-bootstrap.tbz > http://www.9legacy.org/download/go/go1.7.3-plan9-amd64-bootstrap.tbz >

[9fans] Making available a pre-compiled go binary for Miller's plan-9 Pi image

2016-10-27 Thread Marshall Conover
Hi All! I compiled a Go binary for use on Richard Miller's raspberry pi image in contrib (thanks for that Richard, by the way). I threw up a link to the binary in a previous email a week or two ago, but I think that email got spam filtered, so I won't link it again - but, is there a good place

Re: [9fans] The Case for Bind

2017-09-15 Thread Marshall Conover
u, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:01 PM Marshall Conover <marzhal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Note that Fuschia is a microkernel. Does it provide a filesystem > interface? > > Hi dho! Yes, it does, and the code I've modified to introduce the ability > to perform bind is a modificat

[9fans] The Case for Bind

2017-09-14 Thread Marshall Conover
Hi All! I've been exploring the Fuchsia operating system, and while they have per-process namespaces, they don't have a utility like plan 9's bind, nor a method of supporting it by default in their system libraries. I've made some progress on adding it (https://imgur.com/HELWbrQ), but

Re: [9fans] The Case for Bind

2017-09-18 Thread Marshall Conover
Thanks, Giacomo. I have no illusions of being the smartest person in the room or anything above mediocre, but I think there's a good chance the people at Bell Labs were in that category. Hopefully, if I try to follow their design ideas, I can at least play at being smart for a bit. And, if I do as

Re: [9fans] The Case for Bind

2017-09-14 Thread Marshall Conover
ned directly in response to me on IRC, I'm thinking I may just have to maintain a branch until it's exclusively opened up for more substantial user contributions, whenever that is. :/ Thanks! Marshall On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:53 PM Marshall Conover <marzhal...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Re: [9fans] The Case for Bind

2017-09-17 Thread Marshall Conover
. :) (even you, khm) Marshall On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 7:59 AM Marshall Conover <marzhal...@gmail.com> wrote: > > But you are not your contributions, and since you freely agreed to > donate your time for free, they don't owe you anything. > > Yeah, I've gone into this fu

Re: [9fans] The Case for Bind

2017-09-14 Thread Marshall Conover
khm - Unfortunately, that would conflict with the browsing model I want to propose once I've proven my worth - in which the user emails a daemon with the site they want, which the daemon then wgets, forwards to them, and opens up emacs. Thanks! Marshall On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:58 AM Marshall

Re: [9fans] The Case for Bind

2017-09-14 Thread Marshall Conover
Marshall Conover <marzhal...@gmail.com> wrote: > khm - Unfortunately, that would conflict with the browsing model I want to > propose once I've proven my worth - in which the user emails a daemon with > the site they want, which the daemon then wgets, forwards to them, and &

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-15 Thread Marshall Conover
Hi Darren! I can see how 9's current UI could be considered a 'roadblock' to the average user due to its unfamiliarity, and making it closer to modern looks may make plan 9 pass the smell test for users more often. Personally, though, it seems like a bit of a slog; there's not much exciting going

Re: [9fans] UI design | enhancements.

2019-04-16 Thread Marshall Conover
400 > Marshall Conover wrote: > > > For example, I feel super squished on a single screen, but I've come to > > dislike the awkwardness of switching between multiple 'workspaces' or > > working with tiling wms. So I'm playing around with rio at the moment to > > see if

Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020

2019-10-29 Thread Marshall Conover
, to me, like enough people to at least entertain the idea, and a fairly reasonable and manageable size from the perspective of planning and execution. Thanks! Marshall On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 4:32 PM Marshall Conover wrote: > > The survey seems more cute than useful. E.g. there's a *big* diff

Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020

2019-10-29 Thread Marshall Conover
S. Montanaro wrote: >> >> If indeed it ends up being held in the US I’d love to come - have yet to >> find any 9fans here in New England. >> >> Cheers, >> - Nicolas > > 9fans / 9fans / see discussions + participants + delivery optio

Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020

2019-10-29 Thread Marshall Conover
rticipants + delivery options Permalink -- Have a good day, Marshall Conover -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T7414e0ecd12c8643-M0d69ab2518e280404d400227 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020

2019-10-26 Thread Marshall Conover
up yurts :) >> >> AYH could comfortably lodge every active Plan 9 user on earth and has >> decent space for meetings. >> >> khm > > 9fans / 9fans / see discussions + participants + delivery options Permalink -- Have a good day, Marshall Conover -

Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020

2019-10-26 Thread Marshall Conover
ut I would be willing to kick > in some $$$ to help pay to have the event streamed. > > --lyndon -- Have a good day, Marshall Conover -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T2e674653159c4ce8-M3754bdbc9835d21332335ab8 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] Request for (constructive?) comments: Plan 9 : 2020

2019-10-22 Thread Marshall Conover
I'd be happy to volunteer some hours setting things up. I'd love to hear a talk on mycroftiv's grid, as well. On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 20:24 Sean Hinchee wrote: > I would be very happy to volunteer whatever time and resources I can. > > It would be awesome to see this happen :) > > Cheers, >

Re: [9fans] 9front kernel panic on bootstrap on rpi

2020-05-01 Thread Marshall Conover
ion: Does it work with a different mouse? > > If not, then it'll take more work to investigate. > I have just another mouse here, a nacon gaming mouse. It requires 5v though > and it does not work on any rpi I have. I don’t have powered USB hub here for > testing, but I can find one

Re: [9fans] u9fs in go?

2020-07-12 Thread Marshall Conover
ultitude of 9P implementations in Go. > > For example, this one, which includes a program to serve > local files as a 9P filesystem: > > https://github.com/Harvey-OS/ninep > > -- > David du Colombier -- Have a good day, Marshall Conover ---

Re: [9fans] help

2021-06-20 Thread Marshall Conover
od day, Marshall Conover -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T1bf00692daa5f082-M97f0a8e6e9023e7290decde7 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation

2021-02-10 Thread Marshall Conover
Same! Enjoyed helping out with iwp92020, happy to help further. On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:07 AM Steve Simon wrote: > > How do we get involved in or become a member of the foundation? > > I too am interested in supporting plan9 in any form I can. > > -Steve -- Have a g

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

2021-03-23 Thread Marshall Conover
ww.bell-labs.com/institute/blog/plan-9-bell-labs-cyberspace/ > > > > Thanks for putting in the work -- it's much appreciated. -- Have a good day, Marshall Conover -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tf20bce89ef96d4b6-M3daebdba73f2eb3d33c2e962 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] astro: meeteeor shouwer?

2021-07-28 Thread Marshall Conover
; 2021 7 28 > Pisces australid meeteeor shouwer > :; agrep meeteeor /sys/src/cmd/astro/*.c > /sys/src/cmd/astro/search.c:61: > event("%s meeteeor shouwer", -- Have a good day, Marshall Conover -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https

Re: [9fans] Re: Plan 9 applying to GSoC

2022-02-19 Thread Marshall Conover
Adding a +1 for sirjofri's idea 3, which seems like it would be achievable, has clear objectives, and a compelling result. For idea 4, a notable utility is pipefile - https://9p.io/magic/man2html/1/pipefile. It allows you to stitch a command in-between the reading and/or writing of a file. It'd

Re: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation

2022-01-24 Thread Marshall Conover
Hi mycroftiv! I'd be happy to lend some support and at least match your bounty. There's a lot to explore in the 9 universe beyond what has been covered so far, and I think the work you've done with ants and grid has been fantastic - and shows your dedication to growing the ecosystem and welcoming