Re: [9fans] abaco @ plan9port [WAS: Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?]

2008-03-11 Thread Federico G. Benavento
#!/bin/sh if [ ! -f $HOME/.webcookies ]; then touch $HOME/.webcookies fi if [ ! -e `namespace`/web ]; then webfs -s web fi # export PLAN9=/usr/share/abaco abaco.bin $* On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Vinícius de Figueiredo Silva [EMAIL

Re: [9fans] TeX - Plan 9 model

2008-03-11 Thread erik quanstrom
Now I need to figure out how to produce PS from the bdf/doc directory. There is nothing obvious about TeX, so I'm begging for the few commands that ought to do the job, looking at /rc/bin/tex and friends give me no hint. Sorry to be so dense. ++L dvips doesn't work? - erik

Re: [9fans] abaco @ plan9port [WAS: Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?]

2008-03-11 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
Try: webcookies webfs abaco It should work then. I think abaco should be made to host its own webcookies/webfs. Why not? It's this easy: if ((cookiesproc = fork()) == 0) { execl(/bin/webcookies, webcookies, 0);

Re: [9fans] TeX - Plan 9 model

2008-03-11 Thread lucio
eofminooka; tex hello.tex This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.2) Works as documented. But the same with, say, core.texi, gives me an error, presumably because the texinfo.tex macros are not preloaded. So I need some advice on how to combine the two (or more) documents. The texi2dvi script

Re: [9fans] abaco @ plan9port [WAS: Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?]

2008-03-12 Thread Steve Simon
I think abaco should be made to host its own webcookies/webfs. Why not? I think this is a bad idea, what if you want to use an alternate webfs (on a different NIC), or an non-standard cookies file? do you want to wait whilst webcookies rescans it databse at startup and webfs rescans its

Re: [9fans] TeX - Plan 9 model

2008-03-12 Thread lucio
The .texi file is not actually TeX. [ ... ] Sorry for not being helpful, You were, pity about the delay. It's nice to have one's suspicions confirmed. ++L

Re: [9fans] TeX - Plan 9 model

2008-03-12 Thread Jeff Sickel
I'd highly recommend going the pdftex route instead http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/) . Pdftex generates much more compatible PDF files that the dvips route--aka, dvips output prints to paper fine, looks horrid on most PDF viewers. Now if I could only get more time in the day--as

Re: [9fans] TeX - Plan 9 model

2008-03-12 Thread Russ Cox
I'd highly recommend going the pdftex route instead http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/) . Pdftex generates much more compatible PDF files that the dvips route--aka, dvips output prints to paper fine, looks horrid on most PDF viewers. Whether the files generated by dvips look okay

Re: [9fans] abaco @ plan9port [WAS: Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?]

2008-03-12 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:36 AM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is a bad idea, what if you want to use an alternate webfs (on a different NIC), or an non-standard cookies file? do you want to wait whilst webcookies rescans it databse at startup and webfs rescans

Re: [9fans] abaco @ plan9port [WAS: Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?]

2008-03-12 Thread erik quanstrom
have you sent your patches to fgb? iru i think so. but it's been a very long time. here's the entire patch to urls.c some fixups may be required due to this fact. attached is the whole patch to urls.c. - erik // tired of typing http://, tired of going to google first. void

Re: [9fans] abaco @ plan9port [WAS: Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?]

2008-03-12 Thread erik quanstrom
Here's another thing I'd like to see: preview on-disk pages: abaco $home/x.html that's not abaco -- that's webfs. webfs doesn't know what to do with file://. - erik

Re: [9fans] replica weirdness

2008-03-12 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Mar 12 18:53:01 EDT 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I've screwed something up along the way, but when I run 'replica/pull -nv /dist/replica/network' I get the following error: replica/compactdb: opendb /n/boot/dist/replica/client/plan9.db:

Re: [9fans] replica weirdness

2008-03-12 Thread Russ Cox
replica/compactdb: opendb /n/boot/dist/replica/client/plan9.db: '/n/boot/dist/replica/client/plan9.db' does not exist replica/compactdb /n/boot/dist/replica/client/plan9.db: compactdb 192196: opendb /n/boot/dist/replica/client/plan9.db: '/n/boot/dist/replica/client/plan9.db' does not exist

Re: [9fans] infrequent panics

2008-03-12 Thread erik quanstrom
So if you ran ps at exactly the right time (while one of the procs on the machine was opening a #-ed file name and was between strlen and sprint), you'd win the race. You might improve your chances if the machine were close to out of memory and the smalloc had to wait for more memory.

[9fans] plan9 font service [WAS: abaco @ plan9port]

2008-03-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now another problem: abaco expects some fonts in /usr/local/plan9/fonts. Seems we need some convenient way for relocating fonts. Maybe an even an fontserver ? ;-) I've now manually tweaked the pathes in the source, but this isn't really a good

Re: [9fans] Announcing Vim for Plan 9

2008-03-13 Thread andrey mirtchovski
you are my hero. now do the same for firefox ;) no, seriously: thanks for the effort!

Re: [9fans] About The Codes Beyond Unicode-BMP

2008-03-13 Thread erik quanstrom
it would require recompiling everything, but i don't believe it would require changes to code beyond the utf routines in the c library. i do not believe there are many places (if any) that presume to know the value of UTFmax. you just pointed one out yesterday -- in devatach(). - erik

Re: [9fans] kernel panic with fresh sources

2008-03-13 Thread Mathieu Lonjaret
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 6:54 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for kicks, I have tried rebuilding another kernel with the fresh sources and this modified sdiahci.c but it fails with the errors attached in build.txt. the build warnings are harmless. it has to do with the

Re: [9fans] Announcing Vim for Plan 9

2008-03-13 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cpu% grep home crash.txt take me back home http://mirtchovski.com/screenshots/ffmpeg.gif A question in total innocence: What does Vim really buy you? it buys you a negative. I won't have to hear people whine any more about

Re: [9fans] Are acme-sac questions ok here?

2008-03-14 Thread Charles Forsyth
There's an Inferno for the discussion of all aspects of Inferno and Limbo (which would include acme-sac because it's built on that). To subscribe to that list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], including the word subscribe in the subject or body of the message. There is, however, acme-sac

Re: [9fans] Porting XeTeX

2008-03-14 Thread erik quanstrom
I'm asking mainly because of Plan 9, a UNIX-like OS with a C compiler (but no C++) to which the freetype library has been ported. There's an old port of TeX that doesn't work too well anymore, so there's been some talk about porting a modern TeX. (LuaTeX requires C++ for the PDF library it

Re: [9fans] Porting XeTeX

2008-03-14 Thread Russ Cox
I'm asking mainly because of Plan 9, a UNIX-like OS with a C compiler (but no C++) to which the freetype library has been ported. There's an old port of TeX that doesn't work too well anymore, so there's been some talk about porting a modern TeX. don't waste your time unless there is

Re: [9fans] Porting XeTeX

2008-03-14 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 5:28 AM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do you mean doesn't work too well anymore? i haven't noticed anything going broken. But lucio has had trouble. I guess I overstated the case a bit. --Joel

Re: [9fans] dns woes

2008-03-14 Thread Christian Kellermann
* erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080314 17:01]: This is not as reproducible as I thought. I just opened another window and ran ndb/dnsquery and it works now. Could this be due to temporary dns failure problems? do you have any other broken dns, other than the one you started? not

Re: [9fans] Porting XeTeX

2008-03-14 Thread lucio
But lucio has had trouble. That's because I am totally unfamiliar with TeX. I guess I overstated the case a bit. Sorry to have put you in the firing line. ++L

Re: [9fans] LPL

2008-03-15 Thread lucio
The original poster was asking what he could do, and he's not the owner of the code in question. Sorry, I missed the last point. ++L

[9fans] It looks like our GSoC application was rejected

2008-03-18 Thread Dave Eckhardt
Since we didn't hear back, and our name is not on the list of accepted projects, it appears that Google rejected our application. Of course we'll try to figure out why and how we can do better next year. Dave Eckhardt

Re: [9fans] It looks like our GSoC application was rejected

2008-03-18 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
perhaps a little introspection is needed. was it that they didn't like the proposals this year or that they didn't like the outcome of last year's effort? or maybe they just want to spread their love. They took GNU Hurd, but not plan9? Terrorists! Since we didn't hear back, and our name is

Re: [9fans] It looks like our GSoC application was rejected

2008-03-18 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Skip Tavakkolian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps a little introspection is needed. was it that they didn't like the proposals this year or that they didn't like the outcome of last year's effort? or maybe they just want to spread their love. last

Re: [9fans] Stupid newbie question: Fileserver (fossil vs dedicated)

2008-03-18 Thread erik quanstrom
Am I supposed to use the 9pcfs kernel on a dedicated machine or just export fossil from a normal plan9 install. 9pcfs is ken's fileserver. it is a stand alone deal requiring il. (and a patch to the kernel, these days.) imho, it is still the best fs out there. If just exporting fossil

Re: [9fans] It looks like our GSoC application was rejected

2008-03-18 Thread andrey mirtchovski
interested students should perhaps submit their plan 9 gsoc project proposals to the Hurd. i hear we have a connection there through a certain Thomas Bushnell, BSG ;)

[9fans] 82566 (ich) ethernet problem

2008-03-18 Thread erik quanstrom
i submitted a fix today for the flash reading problem with the 82566 chipset (82563 driver) that mathieu lonjaret reported last week. this chipset is commonly found in laptops such as the t61. fazlul shahriar helped verify the differences causing the problem. hopefully the code now correctly

Re: [9fans] lies, damn lies and kloc.

2008-03-19 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
You've also forgotten the yacc file in cc. It still doesn't topple the chart: ; wc -l /sys/src/cmd/^(cc 8c 8l)^/*.[chy]|grep total 29908 total What should be compared is a C++ compiler and the associated libraries. Especially in C++0x! :-P What is the total of all the compilers,

Re: [9fans] It looks like our GSoC application was rejected

2008-03-19 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
The GFDL governs documentation. It tries to keep your manuals free-as- in-freedom. :-) Look at the absolute bottom of any page on Wikipedia. On Mar 19, 2008, at 3:19 AM, Andrew Simmons wrote: interested students should perhaps submit their plan 9 gsoc project proposals to the Hurd. i hear we

Re: [9fans] System call mania

2008-03-21 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
It suggests to me that these calls are the lowest level of communication with the kernel. I once thought that all system calls could be called by a program :-P On Mar 22, 2008, at 12:41 AM, Iruata Souza wrote: On 3/22/08, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That confirmed one

Re: [9fans] 9bench: lmbench for Plan 9

2008-03-22 Thread hiro
Perhaps the copyright owner just wanted to make fun of intellectual property;)

Re: [9fans] System call mania

2008-03-22 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
I was tired and I used the wrong words. On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:32 AM, ron minnich wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It suggests to me that these calls are the lowest level of communication with the kernel. I once thought that all system calls

Re: [9fans] Drawterm + QEMU

2008-03-23 Thread Tom Lieber
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Has anyone gotten drawterm to work with QEMU on Mac OS X? If so, how? Thanks. What issues are you having? After completing the CPU server walkthrough on the wiki, the only tricky part for me was networking, which

Re: [9fans] acme/sam linewrapping off

2008-03-23 Thread erik quanstrom
Is there any way how to sensibly edit a file with long lines (eg. a table with many fields, like /sys/lib/lp/devices) using acme/sam? What I miss is a way to not wrap long lines when I need to concentrate on the different fields and a whole single line is a true representative of an item (a

Re: [9fans] acme/sam linewrapping off

2008-03-23 Thread erik quanstrom
Thanks for the answer, although it did not please me... :( (In Vim, you only have to do :set nowrap and you are done... From time to time I find this rather useful.) Ruda it's unreasonable for the lp configuration file to need lines 200 characters long. i would think it would make more sense

Re: [9fans] Kernel Compiling Problem

2008-03-24 Thread Rodolfo kix García
I'm assuming /386/bin/fossil/fossil does not, in fact, exist. The file exists: term% ls -l /386/bin/fossil/fossil --rwxrwxr-x M 8 sys sys 366315 Dec 31 1969 /386/bin/fossil/fossil term% The fact that the last file completed changes is just a distraction in this case; I suspect you have

[9fans] Plan 9 system behind firewall

2008-03-24 Thread kokamoto
I have two sets of Plan 9 system within different IP domain, one of which is sitting behind the firewall made by a brordband router and using fossil+venti+ auth/cpu server and terminals(Plan 9-1). Another is using Ken's fs, standalone auth server, cpu server, and terminals (Plan 9-2). When I

Re: [9fans] Kernel Compiling Problem

2008-03-24 Thread john
term% ls -l /386/bin/fossil/fossil --rwxrwxr-x M 8 sys sys 366315 Dec 31 1969 /386/bin/fossil/fossil December 1969? I think not. Ah yes, the day before time began :)

[9fans] aquarela capuse problem

2008-03-24 Thread Christian Kellermann
Dear list, When I try to access a user's directory through aquarela I get a strange error message whose meaning is unknown to me. The setup is as follows: 1. bind -c /usr/shares /n/shares 2. aquarela -u 1 -d allcmds when I try with a unix smbclient (part of the samba package) I get the

Re: [9fans] aquarela capuse problem

2008-03-24 Thread Steve Simon
The problem seems to be that aquarela doesn't have permission to switch from the user who started aquarela to the user who logged in. I assume you are not running aquarela as the hostowner (by convention bootes). -Steve

Re: [9fans] Kernel Compiling Problem

2008-03-24 Thread Rodolfo kix Garci­a
I don't run pull in this default installation, then the install CD do not write this value. I got the same problem with two different CD images, three days ago and one week ago, installing them in vmware and qemu virtual machines. Thanks Richard Richard Miller escribió: grep

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 system behind firewall

2008-03-24 Thread erik quanstrom
I have two sets of Plan 9 system within different IP domain, one of which is sitting behind the firewall made by a brordband router and using fossil+venti+ auth/cpu server and terminals(Plan 9-1). Another is using Ken's fs, standalone auth server, cpu server, and terminals (Plan 9-2).

Re: [9fans] acme/sam linewrapping off

2008-03-25 Thread Rudolf Sykora
I understand that a speadsheet would solve the situation, but... Vim has always been sufficient for the task I described, having that one particular feature. If acme were able of the same, it would suffice me as well... Ruda On 24/03/2008, Robert Raschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/23/08,

Re: [9fans] acme/sam linewrapping off

2008-03-25 Thread Hongzheng Wang
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Rudolf Sykora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that a speadsheet would solve the situation, but... Vim has always been sufficient for the task I described, having that one particular feature. If acme were able of the same, it would suffice me as well...

Re: [9fans] acme/sam linewrapping off

2008-03-25 Thread Charles Forsyth
Well, [EMAIL PROTECTED] could definitely be a choice. But, doesn't it go against the basic philosophy ... ??! the response here usually follows these steps: (1) at most a mild suggestion to try using the system somewhat as intended (2) ignoring it this is in contrast to affirmative-action

Re: [9fans] acme/sam linewrapping off

2008-03-25 Thread Rudolf Sykora
I haven't said that to use Vim is bad. Vim is my most favourite editor. I am myself happy to have Vim around in Plan9 (and am not alone for sure). Nonetheless, it's bad to not have an alternative which would follow the system's principles. Please read all I mentioned before. Vim does not follow

Re: [9fans] acme/sam linewrapping off

2008-03-25 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Thanks, I'll read it and see if it can be of help R On 25/03/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola, i think you can take other approaches to solve your problems instead of using vim, or making acme behave like vim. see what others have done with acme:

Re: [9fans] acme/sam linewrapping off

2008-03-25 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
have you considered using sam to break each line into multiple lines and then rejoining. e.g. if you have a | separated record structure, you could do something like: ,x/^.*\n/ { s/\|/\n/g s/\n/\n\n/ } edit the fields, then rejoin before writing it back: ,y/\n\n/ x/\n/ c/|/ ,x/\n\n/ c/\n/

Re: [9fans] Drawterm + QEMU

2008-03-25 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
Okay, so now that I have drawterm working on my Mac, I'd like to have it working remotely at my school. Which IP addresses should I use instead of the localhost to connect to my CPU remotely? On Mar 23, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: Ah yes, I had formatted the arguments wrong.

Re: [9fans] Drawterm + QEMU

2008-03-25 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mar 23, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: Ah yes, I had formatted the arguments wrong. I now do drawterm-osx-intel -c 'tcp!127.0.0.1!17010' -a 'tcp!127.0.0.1!2567' -s 'tcp!127.0.0.1!5356' -u pietro I just had 127.0.0.1. why are you using port 2567 for your auth

Re: [9fans] Drawterm + QEMU

2008-03-25 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
I'd still like to know which IP addresses to use for remote connection to my cpu box. I tried the one in /net/ndb (10.0.2.15) but it didn't work. rfc 1918 addresses (10/8, 172.16/12, 192.168/16) are not routable. (there are other non-routable ip blocks as well. check iana's website.)

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 system behind firewall

2008-03-26 Thread Richard Miller
A long delay when connecting to a server behind a firewall may be an attempt to connect to the secstore port. Terminals booting with a remote fileserver, and some configurations of drawterm, will look for a secstore server, by default at address tcp!$auth!5356. If the auth machine isn't running

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 system behind firewall

2008-03-26 Thread kokamoto
Thank you very much, Richard. A long delay when connecting to a server behind a firewall may be an attempt to connect to the secstore port. I'm not running secstore yet at the target (Plan 9-2) auth server. Can you configure the firewall to open tcp port 5356? Yes, I can. I'll try this

[9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Gorka Guardiola
I was trying to echo the string '-n' and couldn't. This is because -n doesn't use ARGBEGIN. This command results in: echo -- -n -- -n I ended up doing echo a-n|sed s/a// Do I send the patch, do you consider this a bug?. -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Gorka Guardiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, my question remains, why not?. Even in the UPE it says that the echo -n ' ' is ugly... …At this point the Plan 9 realized history repeating itself, and although she did not want to offend either, she decided it

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Sape Mullender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: echo -- -n because we do gnot like that sort of stuff. rm -- -r whynot rm: -r: '-r' file does not exist rm: whaynot: 'whaynot' file does not exist -- - curiosity sKilled the cat

Re: [9fans] Eeepc

2008-03-26 Thread ron minnich
I was not sure what was on there but found http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi?act=Print;f=8;t=19312 Posted by 9a6or on Nov. 18 2007,05:25 lspci in DSL gives: Code Sample :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 2590 (rev 04) :00:02.0 VGA compatible

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread erik quanstrom
this is a very odd case odd but important. it's worth knowing that what's your reasoning that this is an important case? - erik

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a valid reason to have echo process the arguments given? I'm leaning toward Eric's suggestion of splitting echo in twain. When facing south, the Plan 9 will open her mouth to echo nothing; when facing north

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
but echo -n '-n ' is a hack. with a different implementation it might as well complaint that ' ' is an invalid flag. And in any case, the do the same thing the same way all the times argument suggests that -- should terminate option processing. doesn't it?

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
But should echo ignore arguments it doesn't understand (like UNIX does) or complain (like GNU echo does)? Also note this from the bash manual: echo does not interpret -- to mean the end of options. This is just a matter of the proper behavior to implement echo -- with. Using two

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread andrey mirtchovski
values of Δ will give rise to doom! at least get that one right, please?

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread roger peppe
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:10 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is a very odd case odd but important. it's worth knowing that what's your reasoning that this is an important case? i think it's important because every time you put echo $foo in a shell script, you're

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
On Mar 26, 2008, at 4:09 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: values of Δ will give rise to doom! at least get that one right, please? You don't get it, do you? Δ is the symbol for change. Now do you get it? CHANGE --- DOOM

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Iruata Souza
2008/3/26 Rob Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED]: echo -n -n' ' -rob I know this is a silly question, but doesn't this defeats the purpose of the first -n? iru

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread andrey mirtchovski
You don't get it, do you? Δ is the symbol for change. Now do you get it? CHANGE --- DOOM despite being quite the little tard, i'll give you a pass. what you quoted incorrectly is this: 9grid% sed -n 88,91p /usr/andrey/unix/V6/usr/source/s2/mv.c if(*--argp1 == '.'){

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I know what I quoted. I changed the B to a Delta to represent change and turned dom to doom. YOU ARE THE TARD IF YOU DID NOT GET THAT. It now reads CHANGE -- DOOM! We need to keep echo the same because of the

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
I don't care if you agree with Bill Gates on the issue. The problem is that everyone has about 30 different ways of solving the problem and there isn't a definite solution that will cause something to break. Let's face it -- this is 98.438604% futile. On Mar 26, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Iruata

Re: [9fans] Boot option to disable multiprocessor mode?

2008-03-26 Thread sqweek
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Brad Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to modify the live cd isos to list an option that would allow booting with the *nomp=1 option set? The live cd _does_ boot with *nomp=1. -sqweek

Re: [9fans] 9P support for MC

2008-03-26 Thread Iruata Souza
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I'd just want to let you know I've added 9P support to the Midnight Commander (via libmvfs + libmixp). cu I'm forwarding this to 9p-hackers. iru

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-26 Thread Bruce Ellis
well the gcc list is still waiting for you ... maybe it was volatile. brucee On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Robert William Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iruata Souza wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't care if you agree with Bill

Re: [9fans] RFC: 9zine

2008-03-26 Thread Harri Haataja
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:14:38PM -0400, Tom Lieber wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently planning an little ezine about Plan9 and related stuff (incl. 9P+synthentic filesystems on other OS'es). Maybe anyone interested ? I would

Re: [9fans] Eeepc

2008-03-27 Thread Robert Raschke
I don't think 9load can just boot off a usb yet. Can the eee bios make the usb look like a disk? What were those options in plan9.ini for letting the bios do the disk access? Robby

Re: [9fans] Eeepc

2008-03-27 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
I am just playing with that right now. I have removed *nobiosload from plan9.ini. But I think 9load isn't able to access my plan9.ini on the USB stick. What were those options in plan9.ini for letting the bios do the disk access? *nobiosload may need to be disabled? Stefan On Thu, Mar 27,

Re: [9fans] Eeepc

2008-03-27 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
Here is the output after commenting out || !biosinited in /sys/src/boot/pc/devbios.c:137: bios0: drive 0x80: 4001292288 bytes, type 3 biosinit: sorry, only one bios drive; can't read last one (From reading the 9load code I don't understand how biosinited is ever 1 when biosinit() gets called.

[9fans] getcallerpc on arm7

2008-03-27 Thread Michael Teichgräber
Hi, trying to adapt the getcallerpc function - that exists on Plan9 and p9p - to the arm7 using the arm-elf-gcc compiler, I realized that this would not be easy, as most function arguments are put into registers (the return value into lr), and only pushed on the stack on demand - so it seems one

Re: [9fans] Eeepc

2008-03-27 Thread Gorka Guardiola
Either the BIOS is not exposing the USB stick as a disk, or the 9load BIOS device code isn't searching correctly. I'm going to give it a r This is easy to see. Install a pbs on it and see if it gets loaded and run. If it is not, the BIOS does not see it. Take a look at the configuration

Re: [9fans] Eeepc

2008-03-27 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
Install a pbs on it and see if it gets loaded and run. I have been running PBS off the USB stick the whole time. It's the step from 9load to the kernel which isn't working. 9load isn't able to find plan9.ini or the kernel I tell it on the USB stick - it doesn't even seem to be able to see the

Re: [9fans] databases

2008-03-27 Thread erik quanstrom
I haven't used PQ either. In fact, has anyone used PQ in the last couple years? I wouldn't trust OO to do my databases, but considering the Sinkhole of Support I'd be likely to experience with PQ (it's in sources/extra, it's old, it's unsupported), I'd be more inclined to write an interface

Re: [9fans] databases

2008-03-27 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
I had been thinking of adding a database to Plan 9 for a while. Here's my design: The DBMS is a 9P server. Upon mounting, it takes as arguments two files: - the list of names of records and fields - the data itself It then parses the data into virtual files in the location

Re: [9fans] RFC: 9zine

2008-03-27 Thread Harri Haataja
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:46:21AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:14:38PM -0400, Tom Lieber wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently planning an little ezine about Plan9 and related stuff (incl.

Re: [9fans] It looks like our GSoC application was rejected

2008-03-27 Thread andrey mirtchovski
in the news: http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2008/03/27/google_summer_code_debian_losers/

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

2008-03-27 Thread a
// I haven't used PQ either. In fact, has anyone used PQ in the // last couple years? Yes. In the past few years I've worked with teams building two unrelated applications with it. One went through a technology trial with a Tier 1 US telecom provider, but then floundered for unrelated reasons.

Re: [9fans] databases

2008-03-27 Thread a
We've spent a lot of time thinking about file system front ends for databases (mostly in the context of pq, but not entirely). I'm unconvinced that this model of representation really adds much for most databases. The problem is that the application talking to the database still has to know too

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 system behind firewall

2008-03-28 Thread kokamoto
I tryed Richard's suggestion, and got very good success. Thank you very much, Richard. Now I can drawterm from other IP domain than Plan 9-2 domain on Windows or Debian Linux. The last one, the long time delay of getting rio bootup remaines unsolved. However, it takes at doing

Re: [9fans] DNS server domain

2008-03-28 Thread erik quanstrom
Moin, how do I set the defaultdomain an a Plan 9 DNS server? ndb(6) didn't clear everything up for me. then again, i haven't had any coffee yet. the dnsdomain attribute is well-documented. what i didn't see is the convention for where to hang it in the database. generally, i do this

Re: [9fans] Kernel Compiling Problem

2008-03-28 Thread Richard Miller
I said: I don't understand this, because as far as I can see the mtime should be taken from the actual mtime of the file being copied from the CD (install) ... I've now traced the problem to a leap-year bug in the Plan 9 ISO9660 file server. Several files in the distribution (including

Re: [9fans] DNS server domain

2008-03-28 Thread Matthias Teege
the dnsdomain attribute is well-documented. what i didn't see is the convention for where to hang it in the database. generally, i do this by setting ipnet in /lib/ndb/local. e.g. I put it in my ndb/local and it works for the Plan 9 server % ndb/dnsquery cab cab.mteege.de ip

Re: [9fans] DNS server domain

2008-03-28 Thread erik quanstrom
the dnsdomain attribute is well-documented. what i didn't see is the convention for where to hang it in the database. generally, i do this by setting ipnet in /lib/ndb/local. e.g. I put it in my ndb/local and it works for the Plan 9 server % ndb/dnsquery cab cab.mteege.de ip

Re: [9fans] DNS server domain

2008-03-28 Thread Matthias Teege
by other clients do you mean plan 9 systems or non-plan9 systems? the default domain is not communicated via dns mechanisms. I mean non-plan9 systems. Matthias

Re: [9fans] DNS server domain

2008-03-28 Thread John Soros
When I used my plan9 server as dns server, it was also my dhcp server, which is quite handy. it communicates some info to the dhcp clents, for example the default search domain, which, in my understanding does just what you want. It firsq querys the dns server for the domain, then tries to

Re: [9fans] Does sam accepts interrupt signal

2008-03-28 Thread Hongzheng Wang
OK, I see. It's helpful. Thank you~ On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Charles Forsyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it has been some time since i last used sam interactively, but your description sam appears to forget the state (in fact it's I that forget it) and treat my input

Re: [9fans] DNS server domain

2008-03-29 Thread John Soros
Ah great! add one to lunix quirks, shouldn't it be the system that resolves names? This is pretty weird :-) Cheers! Johnny On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:21:41 +0100 Matthias Teege [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I used my plan9 server as dns server, it was also my dhcp server, which is quite handy.

Re: [9fans] DNS server domain

2008-03-29 Thread erik quanstrom
every system that uses bind 9 has the same behavior. however bind's Old Standard, nslookup, does not ignore resolv.conf. - erik Ah great! add one to lunix quirks, shouldn't it be the system that resolves names? This is pretty weird :-) Cheers! Johnny [...] ; dig cab +short ;

[9fans] Installing Plan 9 on a ICH9 SATA controller.

2008-03-29 Thread Armando Camarero
Hi, I've tried to install Plan 9 on my new computer and I'm having trouble with the SATA controller. If I have AHCI mode enabled in BIOS: - Booting the install CD only gets to: PBS1...Bad format or I/O error - Booting using a floppy: 9load seems to load fine, and it even detects the

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