On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:52 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
Uriel is renowned for demanding tools to be released on principle,
without him having any practical need for them.
I don't see why uriel having a practical need for them or not is
relevant. I see the relevant question as does
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:52 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
Uriel is renowned for demanding tools to be released on principle,
without him having any practical need for them.
I don't see why uriel having a practical need for them or not is
relevant.
Well, let me try to explain it.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:47 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
Or, for that matter, evaluate the risk of releasing it prematurely?
What risk?
-sqweek
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:47 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
Or, for that matter, evaluate the risk of releasing it prematurely?
What risk?
Untested and/or incomplete kernel changes?
++L
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:47 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
Ron needed the
software and Ron got it, whatever it took him to achieve this. Can
you spot the difference?]
It's a bit more than that: I saw a need starting in 2000, with the
initial open source release; I gave talks to anyone who
I'm yet to see anyone demonstrate a disadvantage of doing so.
the problems with publishing code is you have to:
write the manual
document the install process
remove all the debug cruft that you where leaving just in case
field emails about how it:
And we do have a sword hanging over our heads: we've got to get Plan 9
on the top 500 in 2009 or the DOE aspect of this may all go bust. So
you're looking at 9 years (feels like 90!) of pushing on strings with
a pretty hard deliverable next year.
Could you elaborate on the top 500? And why
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:54 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote:
I'm yet to see anyone demonstrate a disadvantage of doing so.
the problems with publishing code is you have to:
write the manual
document the install process
remove all the debug cruft that you where
On Thu Dec 18 13:08:15 EST 2008, sqw...@gmail.com wrote:
No no no, this is all release oriented stuff! Just put the code up so
if someone really interested happens by they can check it out and work
the details out themselves. What's the disadvantage there?
i think you have to understand that
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:50 PM, sqweek sqw...@gmail.com wrote:
You're not in much
of a position to mock if you download code marked proof of concept
expecting it to be production ready...
You must not read this list as much as I thought :-)
ron
Does it work now with non-amd64 kernels?
Peace
uriel
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
Devtrace is ready for your consumption, hot out of the
oven and juicy fresh. The source is at
/n/sources/contrib/john/devtrace-backport.tgz
which includes all the necessary
This source is backported to the PC kernel in /sys/src/9/pc.
The instructions make this abundantly clear, what with all
the stuff being done in /sys/src/9/pc.
John
Does it work now with non-amd64 kernels?
Peace
uriel
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
Didn't know the amd64 kernel doesn't live in /sys/src/9/pc/.
Sorry, I should have guessed that
/sys/src/9/not-for-the-unworthy-unwashed-masses/ was much more likely
location.
Peace
uriel
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
This source is backported to the PC kernel
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote:
Didn't know the amd64 kernel doesn't live in /sys/src/9/pc/.
OK, I am only responding to this because of the incorrect impressions
being left by these kinds of comments.
The backport John did is to the standard kernel that you all
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:07 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
The Masses are Revolting!
You said it! They stink on ice!
-History of the World, Part I.
2008/12/17 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote:
Didn't know the amd64 kernel doesn't live in /sys/src/9/pc/.
OK, I am only responding to this because of the incorrect impressions
being left by these kinds of comments.
The backport
In fact, one could actually look at what John released
*before* posting to this list and making oneself look silly. It's an
idea.
Uriel is renowned for demanding tools to be released on principle,
without him having any practical need for them. He lands up sounding
like a peevish, ungrateful
Yea, stupid retarded moron I am to give a fuck about the welfare of
Plan 9 and its future.
After all, I have only invested I don't know how many hundreds of
hours of my life in it...
uriel
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:52 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
In fact, one could actually look at what
In fact, one could actually look at what John released
*before* posting to this list and making oneself look silly. It's an
idea.
Uriel is renowned for demanding tools to be released on principle,
without him having any practical need for them. He lands up sounding
like a peevish,
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