Re: [abcusers] Use of ! (and another source issue)

2003-07-22 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Jean-Francois Moine wrote: > >to me it seems OK: as long as major developers add this feature (and I > >imagine it's very easy to implement), I can see no reason not to include ` > >in the standard. > > Yes, very easy: I had to change only 3 characters in the parser... I was

Re: [abcusers] Use of ! (and another source issue)

2003-07-22 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:28:40 +0200 (CEST), Guido Gonzato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Jack Campin wrote: > >> Now, there is one ASCII character that is nearly invisible and hasn't >> been used for anything else in ABC yet. So I propose that ` should >> be completely ignored by

Re: [abcusers] Use of !

2003-07-21 Thread Bernard Hill
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Webber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Forgive me if I have missed any other suggestion along the following >lines but could we not define the syntax (something like) > >U:! newline >U:! flag > >in the header to define whether ! means a newline or a !pp! type >flag

Re: [abcusers] Use of ! (and another source issue)

2003-07-20 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Jack Campin wrote: > Now, there is one ASCII character that is nearly invisible and hasn't > been used for anything else in ABC yet. So I propose that ` should > be completely ignored by both player and formatter programs, with its > sole function being to help ABC source loo

Re: [abcusers] Use of ! (and another source issue)

2003-07-18 Thread Jack Campin
> consider '!' a newline if not followed by 0-9A-Za-z; a flag otherwise. Can I just repeat the first of the two examples I gave for why I want to use ! as a staff newline? X:34 T:Thro' the Lang Muir. T:Wandering Willie M:6/8 L:1/8 K:EMin % dorian/minor/phrygian pentatonic Bee Te2d |ege dBG| Bee T

Re: [abcusers] Use of !

2003-07-18 Thread David Webber
From: "Guido Gonzato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: > > > That doesn't work. Cf a new line of the form > > > > a b c d |!a b c d | > > right. But this is ugly syntax. Well I am no expert on what people consider "ugly" - all I want is "consistent and unambiguous

Re: [abcusers] Use of !

2003-07-18 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: > That doesn't work. Cf a new line of the form > > a b c d |!a b c d | right. But this is ugly syntax. Sooner or later, someone will have to say "for goodness sake, Joe, when you write ABC remember that end-of-line bangs MUST be followed by a space" (or

Re: [abcusers] Use of !

2003-07-18 Thread David Webber
From: "Guido Gonzato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > my opinion counts nothing, Well you are pretty familiar with the standard abnd especially the proposed new standard in its current form :-) > or at least much less than developers'. Apart > from that, I think a better solution would be to consider '!'

Re: [abcusers] Use of !

2003-07-18 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: > Forgive me if I have missed any other suggestion along the following > lines but could we not define the syntax (something like) > > U:! newline > U:! flag > > in the header to define whether ! means a newline or a !pp! type > flag. This would enable

[abcusers] Use of !

2003-07-18 Thread David Webber
Forgive me if I have missed any other suggestion along the following lines but could we not define the syntax (something like) U:! newline U:! flag in the header to define whether ! means a newline or a !pp! type flag. This would enable different writer to use either convention for future abc f

[abcusers] Use of .abc extension

2002-08-01 Thread Bryancreer
Something that has cropped up during the testing of Abacus is the use of the .abc extension. A friend, not unreasonably, double clicked on an abc file expecting it to start my programme. What they actually got was ABC Flowcharter; a programme for drawing flowcharts produced by Micrografx Inc.

Re: [abcusers] use of to embed text files

2000-11-06 Thread Robert Bley-Vroman
Sigh... Too bad we can't get consistent, or even comprehensible behavior here. - iCab works fine, displaying both and properly. It also handles DOS, unix, and Mac ibreaks correctly. However, things disappear on reload and can't be copied to the clipboard. - Netscape 4 on Mac fails for all alte

RE: [abcusers] use of to embed text files

2000-11-05 Thread Richard L Walker
I get the same result with the tune playing through my PC speaker rather than through the PC sound system (such a let down). "Richard L Walker"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pensacola, FL 32504-7726 USA > From: Vaughan Hully [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I have MSIE and that wants to download it. If I cli

Re: [abcusers] use of to embed text files

2000-11-05 Thread Vaughan Hully
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000, Robert Bley-Vroman wrote:>>> I have now added this alternative to my test file at: http://www.lll.hawaii.edu/esl/bley-vroman/contra/dances/testobj.html If others want to try, it would be interesting to hear about the results. I have MSIE and that wants to downlo

Re: [abcusers] use of to embed text files

2000-11-04 Thread Phil Taylor
John Atchley wrote: >On Fri, 03 Nov 2000, Robert Bley-Vroman wrote: > >> I have now added this alternative to my test file at: >> >> http://www.lll.hawaii.edu/esl/bley-vroman/contra/dances/testobj.html >> >> If others want to try, it would be interesting to hear about the results. > >Netscape 4.7

Re: [abcusers] use of to embed text files

2000-11-04 Thread John Atchley
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000, Robert Bley-Vroman wrote: > I have now added this alternative to my test file at: > > http://www.lll.hawaii.edu/esl/bley-vroman/contra/dances/testobj.html > > If others want to try, it would be interesting to hear about the results. Netscape 4.7 (on linux) didn't display

Re: [abcusers] use of to embed text files

2000-11-03 Thread Robert Bley-Vroman
John Henckel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >Maybe doesn't work, but you can use instead, and it will >work on all popular browsers. For instance > > >See the ABC code in the window below > >since iframe failed, click here > >This is the end > I couldn't get to work with by abc files with

Re: [abcusers] use of to embed text files

2000-11-03 Thread John Atchley
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000, John Henckel wrote: > Sigh, that last post got messed up in route. To see what I meant look at > http://www.formulus.com/hymns/test1.html Using Netscape 4.7 on linux I get a message "since iframe failed, click here" the "click here" is a page displaying the abc as if it we

Re: [abcusers] use of to embed text files

2000-11-03 Thread John Henckel
Sigh, that last post got messed up in route. To see what I meant look at http://www.formulus.com/hymns/test1.html At 03:26 PM 11/2/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Maybe doesn't work, but you can use instead, and it will >work on all popular browsers. For instance >< snip > >___

Re: [abcusers] use of to embed text files

2000-11-02 Thread John Henckel
Maybe doesn't work, but you can use instead, and it will work on all popular browsers. For instance See the ABC code in the window below since iframe failed, click here This is the end Isn't that what you are trying to do? John Henckel _

Re: [abcusers] use of to embed text files

2000-11-02 Thread Phil Taylor
Robert Vroman wrote: >You can keep the abc in a separate file, and ICab will embed it properly >within the web page in a scrollable text box with control of size, border, >etc. The use of "<" and ">" in the abc do not create problems. > >(Oddly, this text object doesn't always display on "reload"

[abcusers] use of to embed text files

2000-11-01 Thread Robert Bley-Vroman
Long ago, (August 1999) I wrote: >Probably, the conceptually correct way to embed abc in html 4.0 is by >using . One would keep the raw abc in a separate file (which >makes sense anyway). Then, in the html, one would use something like the >following: > >http://www.wherever.com/mytune.abc" type=