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Akanksha Mittal.
Dependence upon scribes and misuse
The discussion has been a very fruitful one, with different opinions coming out.
Now, I would like to put forward some points, which are based on my
personal experience.
I have seen many blind people who are capable enough to study and pass
the exams with good marks, but they lack the will to do
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Akanksha Mittal.
Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons
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Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired -
Akanksha Mittal.
The discussion has been a very fruitful one, with different opinions coming
out.
Now, I would like to put forward some points
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Akanksha Mittal.
Does anyone know what is the actual
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Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired -
Akanksha Mittal.
Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with
blindness in this country
It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready
to accept the appreciation
If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has no end.
Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
experience
Yes Sir, I think, why the people cheat in exam, because, they have
loss their faith in system. and they have no hope in their life to
pass exam. When they experience about bad old insidents, they try to
implement in current exams. Their goal is just pass. So, for those
people, counsling is must
Does anyone know the exact statistics of the population of the blind
in India? look at it, there is a greater conflict of result between
the civil society organisations and the world health organization. it
would be greatful if you can share the source from which your data
presentation has been
What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of
sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing
the buck.
thank you.
On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote:
so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also
Thanks for specifying the period in which the article has been posted.
then you are right, there is no end in talking about the post. but, I
think we can surely talk about the aftermath. unquestionably the
article of her could have had some impacts among us on us, but the
bitter truth is, she
Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with
blindness in this country? Does anyone know how the literacy rate
among the blind is? Does anyone know how many blind persons have been
employed in public/private enterprises?
The ratio is appalling, only 48_% blind have managed to
so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also
copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident.
So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening.
On 3/19/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
If we continue to debate this 2011
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
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Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired -
Akanksha Mittal.
This writer seems to me is obsessed with illusive competence
Though I defend her right to express
O my god, this issue can bring to mind many problems that we have faced
while appearing for our exams.
Though many of us would have faced many problems during our exams, but no
one discussed that a scribe would be emotionally pressured to help as well.
Apart from scribes, some supervisors also
Totally agree.
I have seen situation in some schools where students give out text books to
scribes in advance for them to prepare.
Whether it's computer based or using scribe, students should be well prepared.
And in some cases, I have also seen lack of quality teaching in schools.
I
Hi,
Danish Sir,
The YouTube link of the Badalta Daur pertaining to scribe and
examination related issues has broken midway.
Please repost the full link.
Thanks.
P.S. I've missed the episode as well, and would be keen to listen to it as well.
On 3/18/15, akshun mahajan akshunmahajan...@gmail.com
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:47:26 +0530 li...@srinivasu.org wrote
Totally agree.
I have seen situation in some schools where students give out text books to
scribes in advance for them to prepare.
Whether it's computer based or using scribe, students should be well prepared.
And
Hi,
Adequate supervision certainly would allow for fair usage of scribes.
However, what is the feasibility of implementing a rule that allows
visually impaired students to give their exams using their preferred
means, namely -
* Scribe
* Computer
* Braille
Those who can, would then be allowed to
completely agreed with George sir,
akansha has expressed absolute truth.
We should not ggeneralize everything and if a sighted person is
expressing anything contradictory about community we should welcome
as well.
here is my discussion on scribe, hope it will help to understand all
things in
It seems some of the honest people of our community have owned the
responsibility of cleansing the exam system which wreaks
disproportionate amount of burden on the examining institutions. These
whistleblowers deserve salute.
I'm deeply appalled to observe, instead of raising issues such as
This is the biggest problem with some of our fellow members, when
everr someone tries to put the right prospective before us rather than
following or contemplating we attach that person emotionally and try
to defend just because we have to show that we are the true devotee of
the community.
On
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Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired -
Akanksha Mittal.
This writer seems to me is obsessed with illusive competence
Though I defend her right to express what she experienced, however she
has unwillingly hurt the sentiments of millions
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Of Vamshi. G
Sent: 16 March 2015 19:54
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Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired -
Akanksha Mittal.
The problem with examinations
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Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired-
Akanksha Mittal.
Dependence upon scribes and misuse of scribes is indeed a real problem.
At NAB
This writer seems to me is obsessed with illusive competence
Though I defend her right to express what she experienced, however she
has unwillingly hurt the sentiments of millions of blind who lack
means to learn computers. in her words, She may have done
'philanthropy' by writing somebody's
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Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually
Impaired-
Akanksha Mittal.
Dont forget to teach grammar and spellings. Spell check is not the
complete
answer.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate Solicitor
9, Suleman
.
Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired-
Akanksha Mittal.
Dont forget to teach grammar and spellings. Spell check is not the complete
answer.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.
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Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired-
Akanksha Mittal.
Dont forget to teach grammar and spellings. Spell check is not the complete
answer.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate Solicitor
9, Suleman
nice efforts by nab delhi. I apeel to other NGOs to come forward and
contribute to the blind community on this issue. Sensitisation of
government ministries and spreading awairness amungs them about
accessible technologies including screen reading softwares would help.
Warm regards,
yogesh chhabra
Of Vamshi. G
Sent: 16 March 2015 19:54
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired -
Akanksha Mittal.
The problem with examinations on computers is the lack of knowledge of
the same
The problem with examinations on computers is the lack of knowledge of
the same for many visually challenged. I myself was not aware of
screen readers till my 25th year.
On 3/16/15, Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com wrote:
Completely agreed
On 3/15/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com
before Giving test exam on Computer, visually impaired must trained
how to type the answer and read the questions. I heard that for Online
Exams also, Visually impaired has to go with Writer to type on Exam.
Keep CCTV on exam hall so that, every Problem will solve.
On 3/16/15, bala9119
Rather than spending on scribe,one invigilator , CCTV Govt should
sensatise and implement computer learning with screen reader for VI
students @ schooling.
Impact can be witnessed in any type of exams, provided accessibility
issues are met.
On 3/16/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
Having one invigilator for each candidate will solve the problem. More
over exams with screenreader should be promoted, at least those
candidates who are really wanting this facility should not suffer out
for scribe problem.
On 3/16/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote:
They say experience is the best teacher. And two experiences then are
better teachers, I guess. So here are two such experiences that gave
me two entirely different perspectives, yet zeroing down to perhaps
just one conclusion. The Staff Selection Commission conducts
examinations for graduates and
Completely agreed
On 3/15/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote:
They say experience is the best teacher. And two experiences then are
better teachers, I guess. So here are two such experiences that gave
me two entirely different perspectives, yet zeroing down to perhaps
just one conclusion.
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