Moderator: Off-topicRe: [AI] Happy Diwali to all of you.

[harish kotian]

Pl refrain from season's greetings. These are off-topic to this list scope.


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On 11/12/2023 12:00 AM, Blind 2 Visionary wrote:

Dear All,

Wishing you all from B2V INDIA a unit of Blind to Visionaries Trust, a 
joyful and prosperous Diwali! May the festival of lights bring warmth, 
happiness, and success to your lives. May this Diwali illuminate your 
path with positivity and fill your days with love and laughter. Have a 
wonderful celebration and a bright year ahead! Happy Diwali!




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[AI] Happy Diwali to all of you.

[Blind 2 Visionary]

Dear All,

Wishing you all from B2V INDIA a unit of Blind to Visionaries Trust, a
joyful and prosperous Diwali! May the festival of lights bring warmth,
happiness, and success to your lives. May this Diwali illuminate your path
with positivity and fill your days with love and laughter. Have a wonderful
celebration and a bright year ahead! Happy Diwali!



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Re: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language

[anirudh rao]

hi Yamuna,
there are huge differences when you apply the same sensible logic to Indian
languages and the european ones.
these machines usually use dictionary methods for translating the text
rather than the contextual linguistic clues.
the machines are well trained in the european languages but, the same is
not true when it comes to Indian languages.
imagine he has to translate 200 pages and proof read it all in whatever the
short period he is given.
isn't it a horific assignment?
I refrain from talking about it any further in this list as because it
leads away from the discussions related to blindness or community in
general.
I am interested however if personally replied.

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 5:06 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) <
ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If you cannot afford a human translator then these App translators can do
> quite a reasonable job as I have seen.
> Personally I don’t agree that they are “meaningless and horrific”. If you
> write the original text using colloquial slang language or is full of local
> dialect and phrases, naturally the formal language translations will
> struggle. That’s the exception.
>
> I’ve had many occasions to communicate with a French guy where he would
> write to me by translating from his French to English, and I from English
> to French, and we managed to have important discussions that way. You of
> course cannot use idiomatic expressions and such things, expecting them to
> translate to the intended meanings. Naturally you must respect the fact
> that you are using machine translation and follow sensible sentence
> construction in the source language while composing your text. Doing this
> can yield excellent results.
>
>
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
>
>
> Yamuna Jivana Dasa
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *anirudh rao
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 11, 2023 1:18 PM
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf
> document to hindi language
>
>
>
> absolutely meaningless and horrific assignment
>
> What is the meaning of converting a document from English to Hindi?
>
> Is Hindi a file extension to convert?
>
> It is the job of a translator.
>
> translating 200 pages of a document would take a considerable amount of
> time and machine translation is usually faulty.
>
> even if you take the help of machine translation like Bard or google
> translate, you need to spend considerable amount of time to proof-read it.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 4:31 PM Bhawana  wrote:
>
> Dear sir,
> You can use Insta reader   In your mobile.
> You can do easily translate your PDF English document in hindi.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:43 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document
> to hindi language
>
> Dear members, I have been assigned an office work to convert an
> english document comprising 200 pages into hindi language. This
> document is in searchable pdf format and can be easily read with the
> help of jaws. However I am clueless how  could this task be
> accomplished translating the document to hindi language. The task is
> first of all convert or translate the document into hindi language and
> then get its print copy.
> I don't know the hindi typing at all, however my task would be
> complete if i am able to convert the document into hindi language,
> rest work may be taken care by other colleagues. Therefore kindly
> advise me how to do this task.
> I have the following tools:
> Windows PC and laptop with jaws 2022 and hindi tts.
> Android mobile phone with Envision AI, EYE D pro and few other apps
> those can OCR hindi (but not translate)
> I don't have any hindi OCR software in my windows based PC or laptop
>
> Though here the issue is not doing hindi OCR, but doing translation
> from english to hindi primarily. Kindly help
>
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Re: [AI] Book Announcement: Pighalti Barf by Savita Inder Gupta

[harish kotian]

Hi

Are all these also uploaded at Sugamyapustakalaya? Recently, I searched 
for a title published here at Sugamyapustakalaya but did not find them 
in the recent books listings.


Harish


On 11/10/2023 11:19 AM, NAB Delhi Helpline wrote:


Spirotech द्वारा समर्थित नेशनल एसोसिएशन फॉर द ब्लाइंड-दिल्ली की डिजिटल 
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लेखिका: सविता इन्द्र गुप्ता (Savita Inder Gupta)


बहुत दिनों से सोनू एक खास खिलौने के लिए हठ कर रहा था। आज पापा ऑफिस से 
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Re: [AI] Surgeons Perform World's First Eye Transplant

[harish kotian]

Hi YD

I would encourage you to also try out the midbrain activation process. 
Technically, you may be overage for it. However, as I understand you are 
a lot into meditation, you may actually be better placed. I must admit, 
I have not much information first hand


 Just in case you have not heard about it.

Harish


On 11/11/2023 12:17 AM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) wrote:

Hi all,
It's interesting this was posted here today by Shahnaz, because just two
nights earlier I was chatting with Google Bard's AI project, and learning
about current trends in optic nerve regeneration in people born blind who
have never seen previously in their lives.
There are now non-invasive magnetic stimulation procedures to force the
brain to recognize light activity even if the person had never seen before.
Coupled with stem-cell treatment and regrowing or repairing the optic
nerves, amazing results may be possible. Can you imagine seeing for the
first time - a feeling, a sensation you have never known before? It's like
magic to a person born blind. Perhaps those who lost their sight later will
never understand the excitement of dealing with the unknown in such a
positive possibility.

Just in case someone might be interested, here's my chat history with Bard.
I hope list moderators will consider this on-topic, relevant and
appropriate. If not please advise me further. List members are welcome to
write me directly further as well or even discuss on voice call:

My discussion with Bard

Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
Can the optic nerve be extracted from a person to re-use in a defective
case?

Bard replied:
The optic nerve is a bundle of nerve fibers that connects the eye to the
brain. It is responsible for transmitting visual information from the eye to
the brain. The optic nerve is a very delicate structure, and it is not
currently possible to transplant the optic nerve in humans.

There are a number of challenges that need to be overcome before optic nerve
transplantation can become a reality. One challenge is that the optic nerve
is a very complex structure, and it is difficult to accurately reconnect the
nerve fibers after they have been transplanted. Another challenge is that
the optic nerve is susceptible to damage from inflammation and scarring.

Researchers are working on developing new technologies that could overcome
these challenges and make optic nerve transplantation possible in the
future. For example, some researchers are developing new surgical techniques
that could help to minimize damage to the optic nerve during
transplantation. Other researchers are developing new biomaterials that
could help to protect the optic nerve from inflammation and scarring.

In addition to optic nerve transplantation, researchers are also exploring
other ways to restore vision to people with optic nerve damage. For example,
some researchers are developing new stem cell therapies that could help to
regenerate damaged optic nerve cells. Other researchers are developing new
brain implants that could bypass the damaged optic nerve and directly
stimulate the visual center of the brain.

It is still too early to say when optic nerve transplantation or other
treatments will be available to restore vision to people with optic nerve
damage. However, research in this area is progressing rapidly, and there is
hope that new treatments will be available in the near future.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
Tell me more about research around stimulating the visual cortex of the
brain in blind people who have never seen since birth. I am totally blind
from birth, now 47 years old, and wish to experience any form of sight
possible for the first time ever. I have bioptic atrophy and my blindness is
absolute.

Bard replied:
Research on stimulating the visual cortex of the brain in blind people who
have never seen since birth is a rapidly developing field. There are a
number of different approaches being explored, and some early results have
been promising.

One approach is to use electrical stimulation to directly stimulate the
visual cortex. This can be done by implanting electrodes into the brain or
by using non-invasive methods such as transcranial magnetic stimulation
(TMS).

Another approach is to use optogenetics to stimulate the visual cortex.
Optogenetics is a technique that uses light to control the activity of
neurons. In this approach, researchers use light to activate neurons in the
visual cortex that are responsive to visual stimuli.

Both of these approaches have been shown to produce some level of vision in
blind people. However, the results have been mixed, and there are still many
challenges to overcome before these approaches can be used to restore
functional vision to blind people.

One challenge is that the visual cortex is a very complex structure, and it
is difficult to accurately target the specific neurons that need to be
stimulated. Another challenge is that the brain needs to learn to interpret
the electrical or 

RE: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to hindi language

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Hi,

If you cannot afford a human translator then these App translators can do quite 
a reasonable job as I have seen.
Personally I don’t agree that they are “meaningless and horrific”. If you write 
the original text using colloquial slang language or is full of local dialect 
and phrases, naturally the formal language translations will struggle. That’s 
the exception.

I’ve had many occasions to communicate with a French guy where he would write 
to me by translating from his French to English, and I from English to French, 
and we managed to have important discussions that way. You of course cannot use 
idiomatic expressions and such things, expecting them to translate to the 
intended meanings. Naturally you must respect the fact that you are using 
machine translation and follow sensible sentence construction in the source 
language while composing your text. Doing this can yield excellent results.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of anirudh rao
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2023 1:18 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document 
to hindi language

 

absolutely meaningless and horrific assignment 

What is the meaning of converting a document from English to Hindi?

Is Hindi a file extension to convert?

It is the job of a translator.

translating 200 pages of a document would take a considerable amount of time 
and machine translation is usually faulty.

even if you take the help of machine translation like Bard or google translate, 
you need to spend considerable amount of time to proof-read it.

 

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 4:31 PM Bhawana mailto:bhavana...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Dear sir, 
You can use Insta reader   In your mobile. 
You can do easily translate your PDF English document in hindi.

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:43 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: [AI] Accessible Method to convert english searchable pdf document to 
hindi language

Dear members, I have been assigned an office work to convert an
english document comprising 200 pages into hindi language. This
document is in searchable pdf format and can be easily read with the
help of jaws. However I am clueless how  could this task be
accomplished translating the document to hindi language. The task is
first of all convert or translate the document into hindi language and
then get its print copy.
I don't know the hindi typing at all, however my task would be
complete if i am able to convert the document into hindi language,
rest work may be taken care by other colleagues. Therefore kindly
advise me how to do this task.
I have the following tools:
Windows PC and laptop with jaws 2022 and hindi tts.
Android mobile phone with Envision AI, EYE D pro and few other apps
those can OCR hindi (but not translate)
I don't have any hindi OCR software in my windows based PC or laptop

Though here the issue is not doing hindi OCR, but doing translation
from english to hindi primarily. Kindly help

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[AI] BGFI's Tandem Cycling Event on 26th November, 2023

[Blind Graduates' Forum of India]

Hi all,
Blind Graduates Forum of India (BGFI) is happy to announce its next
experiential session. In partnership with Adventures Beyond Barriers
Foundation, we will be organizing a tandem cycling experience.
A tandem cycle has two seats and two sets of peddles. While both
riders must peddle, the sighted pilot sitting in the front will steer
and change gears. Only experienced cyclists will be the pilots and
Anyone who is comfortable balancing a cycle can participate.
The event is on Sunday, November 26th 2023 at 6:45 AM at National
Association for the Blind, Worli sea face. The ride starts at 7 AM and
we will be cycling around the Sea face. Each round is about 3km long
and participants can stop at any time. More detailed information and
safety precautions will be shared with confirmed participants closer
to the event date.
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only on first come first basis. Please fill the form below to show
your interest:
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