Re: [AI] No GPRS? 'Jaamun' offers email on any phone

2010-06-20 Thread K. Nageswaraiah
I subscribed to the service. Although it's simple, it's not that prompt. Besides, the emails are edited and presented in simple shorthand, i.e., some vowels are omitted. Thus, one does not receive full message. We may incur SMS charges to forward, reply and send emails. There's one more su

Re: [AI] about dragging and dropping:

2010-06-20 Thread Swasti Mathur
hello raju, j please upload the audeo tutorial of jaws cursor because i don't know the full use of it regards Swasti Mathur Raju singh wrote: Hello ashish sir! this is again Raju singh. hope that all of my access indian friend are find. The term dragging is actually a four-part process. It con

Re: [AI] MobileGeo: information required

2010-06-20 Thread Swasti Mathur
hello friends, what is this mobile geo? Mukesh Sharma wrote: HI, The first hand review of Mobile Geo from India is not possible, the maps partner of Mobile Geo do not provide maps for India thus not usable in India. Thanks Mukesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessind

[AI] Credit card theft? There's an app for that

2010-06-20 Thread Sanjay
A service industry for malware is making it possible for anyone with basic computer skills to launch state-of-the-art cyber-attacks by Jim Giles "INTERESTED in credit card theft? There's an app for that." So says Gunter Ollmann, a security researcher at Damballa, a c

[AI] Are machines ready to break down language barriers?

2010-06-20 Thread Sanjay
Online translation is shedding its clunky reputation, bringing the vision of global conversation a step closer to reality by Tom Simonite EVEN in an era of global networks and cheap travel, international communication still faces one great barrier: we don't all speak the same

[AI] (ai) hi accessindia members

2010-06-20 Thread mahesh
this is mahesh from tirupati andrapradesh i want learn about facebook. if any one knows please help me mahesh skype name maheshswis email idee maheshs...@gmail.com thanks Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish

Re: [AI] Accessibility of Skype 4.2

2010-06-20 Thread anokha suchak
Hi! I think there isn't much left once amar has commented, however, you may want to try it yourself. Please download the script from following dropbox link http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4894136/skype%204.2%20scripts%20jfw%2011.zip this is for jaws 11 and skype 4.2. On 6/21/10, Amar Jain wrote: > Dear S

Re: [AI] does anyone using screen touch mobile phone with help of screen reading soft

2010-06-20 Thread Ashwani Jassal
Low vision people may work fine with touch screen but as far as totally blind don't think it is very much accessible? I myself tried but failed completely. Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To un

Re: [AI] Accessibility of Skype 4.2

2010-06-20 Thread Ashwani Jassal
Scripts are available for Skype 4.2 Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subs

Re: [AI] Accessibility of Skype 4.2

2010-06-20 Thread Amar Jain
Dear Sir: Well as far as advise is concerned on whether to upgraid or not, then frankly speaking it depends on the type of the computer user you are. If you like to play with things, and if you also think that we should have latest of everything, then go ahead with upgraid. I understand that in

Re: [AI] Accessibility of Skype 4.2

2010-06-20 Thread Viraj Kafle
One may consider upgrading upto Skype version 4.1.0.136 and install the latest Revision 42d and the Skype Watch installer from http://www.dlee.org/skype Though the latest revision is supposed to work with Skype 4.2 as well, I personally found some glitches - Original Message - From: "

Re: [AI] Polling stations 'fail disabled' through lack of access

2010-06-20 Thread shiv shankar
thank you your massage is very good On 6/21/10, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Polling stations 'fail disabled' through lack of access > Page last updated at 23:06 GMT, Sunday, 20 June 2010 00:06 UK > > Some disabled people have problems accessing polling stations Online voting > should be introduced to

Re: [AI] Making it to MIT against odds

2010-06-20 Thread Kartik Sawhney
You may contact him at the E-mail ID bo...@mit.edu. On 6/21/10, Taha Haaziq wrote: > hey this is excellent! > this really shows that WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS SURELY A WAY > hats off to Shrikanth! > pls pass me his contact details too.. > i will be greatful. > regards. > > > On 6/21/10,

[AI] Polling stations 'fail disabled' through lack of access

2010-06-20 Thread Vikas Kapoor
Polling stations 'fail disabled' through lack of access Page last updated at 23:06 GMT, Sunday, 20 June 2010 00:06 UK Some disabled people have problems accessing polling stations Online voting should be introduced to assist disabled voters after access to polling stations failed to improve for

Re: [AI] Making it to MIT against odds

2010-06-20 Thread Taha Haaziq
hey this is excellent! this really shows that WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS SURELY A WAY hats off to Shrikanth! pls pass me his contact details too.. i will be greatful. regards. On 6/21/10, aisha sahani wrote: > very interesting, and inspiring too. > > yes, i too would like to have the con

Re: [AI] MobileGeo: information required

2010-06-20 Thread Mukesh Sharma
HI, The first hand review of Mobile Geo from India is not possible, the maps partner of Mobile Geo do not provide maps for India thus not usable in India. Thanks Mukesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Beh

Re: [AI] Accessibility of Skype 4.2

2010-06-20 Thread Hozefa Tambawala
Hello, No need of scripts for Skype 4.2 if you are useing JAWS 11. On 6/21/10, Akhilesh Malani wrote: > Hello > > Even we have jaws scripts for skype v4.2 but still its recommended > that skype 3.8 is much comfortable and to be used. > > Regards > > Akhil > > On 6/21/10, Surinder wrote: >> Hi,

Re: [AI] Making it to MIT against odds

2010-06-20 Thread aisha sahani
very interesting, and inspiring too. yes, i too would like to have the contact number or e-mail ID of this man. do any of you having the same? aisha sahani. On 6/21/10, Amar Jain wrote: > head soft to everybody involved in this story. no words.. > Do anyone of you know the contact information

Re: [AI] does any one using screen tuch mobile phone with help of screen reading soft

2010-06-20 Thread aisha sahani
sounds good. i have also been thinking to buy a touch screen mobile phone for me. this helped me as well. thanks. aisha sahani. On 6/21/10, harbhajan singh wrote: > hello i have been using nokia 5800 for two weeks using talks and > mobile speek. Mobile speek is advanced as compare to talks.

Re: [AI] MobileGeo: information required

2010-06-20 Thread aisha sahani
ah well, what is this mobile geo ? parden my weak understanding, i am technologically challenged, as i say. could someone please describe for me what mobile geo is? aisha sahani. On 6/20/10, Shrirang Sahasrabudhe wrote: > Hi Access Indians, > I am looking for first hand information  about u

Re: [AI] does any one using screen tuch mobile phone with help of screen reading soft

2010-06-20 Thread harbhajan singh
hello i have been using nokia 5800 for two weeks using talks and mobile speek. Mobile speek is advanced as compare to talks. The only difficulty i face is of entring text that can also be overcome by experience. Thanks Regards Harbhajan singh. On 10/06/2010, nilesh sonar wrote: > hello friends >

Re: [AI] Making it to MIT against odds

2010-06-20 Thread Amar Jain
head soft to everybody involved in this story. no words.. Do anyone of you know the contact information of this man? Although I have nothing to do with science but its worth making contact with such intelligent people. I openly say shame on indian institutes. He has slapped these people. Regards

Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request

2010-06-20 Thread Amar Jain
Well said vasu bhaiya and of course prateek the hero! Another thing which needs to be taken care is the subject line of your message. I have already posted a lengthy mail on this issue, so in breaf for most appropriate answers to your questions, appropriate subject is the first requirement. No

Re: [AI] Accessibility of Skype 4.2

2010-06-20 Thread Akhilesh Malani
Hello Even we have jaws scripts for skype v4.2 but still its recommended that skype 3.8 is much comfortable and to be used. Regards Akhil On 6/21/10, Surinder wrote: > Hi, > > How far is skype 4.2 accessible with jaws? > Is it advisable to upgrade to skype 4.2 from 3.8? > From where can I get

Re: [AI] Making it to MIT against odds

2010-06-20 Thread namdeo2000
Very encouraging and inspiring indeed. - Original Message - From: "Renuka Warrier" To: "access india" Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 6:21 AM Subject: [AI] Making it to MIT against odds Date:21/06/2010 URL: http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/edu/2010/06/21/stories/2010062150460400.htm

[AI] Making it to MIT against odds

2010-06-20 Thread Renuka Warrier
Date:21/06/2010 URL: http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/edu/2010/06/21/stories/2010062150460400.htm _ Link: Education Plus Making it to MIT against odds YOGENDRA KALAVALAPALLI Bolla Srikanth, a visually-challenged b

Re: [AI] about dragging and dropping:

2010-06-20 Thread giri prasad
Dear Raju, It would be better if you can upload jaws cursor audio tutorial. On 20/06/2010, Raju singh wrote: > Hello ashish sir! > this is again Raju singh. hope that all of my access indian friend are find. > The term dragging is actually a four-part process. It consists of clicking > the left m

[AI] Accessibility of Skype 4.2

2010-06-20 Thread Surinder
Hi, How far is skype 4.2 accessible with jaws? Is it advisable to upgrade to skype 4.2 from 3.8? >From where can I get the jaws scripts for the skkype 4.2? Awaiting a quick response, SN Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessin

Re: [AI] requesting latest fermware for nokia n79

2010-06-20 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
A better solution: Download the Nokia software updater from the Nokia website. Install in your PC and connect your phone to the PC via the cable. Now you can check via the program to see if there are new version available for your model. Best, Vetri. On 20/06/2010, sunilsangtani wrote: > hello

Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings

2010-06-20 Thread Dr. Yogesh Sharma
Dear Prateek, I am deeply touched by the humility of a learned person like you while drawing the attention of everybody towards a major drawback in postings to Access India. With all the due humility, I wish to add that along with spellings, punctuation also deserves all the due attention from u

[AI] MobileGeo: information required

2010-06-20 Thread Shrirang Sahasrabudhe
Hi Access Indians, I am looking for first hand information  about usage of mobile geo in India. Also I would love to know about compatible handsets and user reviews of the same. You may write to me directly. Thanks *** If you try, you risk fa

Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request

2010-06-20 Thread Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala
The spell checker runs even when you select Rich Text or HTML as the format for composing emails. For this, open Options dialog box in Microsoft Outlook if you have configured (Tools < Options) and go to Mail Format tab using CTRL+TAB. Select the desired option in the combo box labeled 'Compose in

Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request

2010-06-20 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Prateek, I would suggest you to post the series of information on your website and once you are done, share the link with us. So that the information would be available for future reference in a easy way. Thanks, Vasu Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula -Original Message- From: accessin

Re: [AI] Upload of wma file to youtube/face book

2010-06-20 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
George, Am afraid, I won't be offering you step-by-step guide; but here are a few links that would perhaps help: Uploading WMA files to YouTube: http://www.milliande.com/how-to-edit-and-upload-files-to-youtube.html http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080331075241AAvmkKV There are a lot

Re: [AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request

2010-06-20 Thread prateek aggarwal
Agreed. I too have observed a few mails with major errors in spellings. While we are using screen readers, we don’t usually read the word letter by letter, hence our focus does not go to the spelling of a word. Yes, I fully understand that many of you folks haven’t got chance of doing studies in E

Re: [AI] Regarding team viewer

2010-06-20 Thread Mukesh Baviskar
Hello, Please try skipe 4.2 screen share option which is very easy. I'm using it to share my screen with my friends without any problem. Just try it and I hope your problem will be solved. Thank you. Regards Mukesh Baviskar Mobile:091-9403161157 - Original Message - From: "Rohiet A.

[AI] Upload of wma file to youtube/face book

2010-06-20 Thread George Abraham
Hi, This is a mail addressed to the Tech savvy members of this group. How does one upload a wma file onto youtube and Face Book. A step by step guidance would be appreciated. Thanks, George Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www

Re: [AI] information required.

2010-06-20 Thread Mukesh Baviskar
Hello Abdul, I want to capture videio. I tried it but I get the message unable to find videio capture device. Please guide me where shall I get it? Is it free or not? Thank you. Regards Mukesh Baviskar Mobile:091-9403161157 - Original Message - From: "Abdul Razzaq" To: Sent: Sunda

Re: [AI] Regarding team viewer

2010-06-20 Thread Rohiet A. Patil
Hello sir! I want to give remote support to one of my friend through internet whenever she needed. Is it possible through remote desktop? Further, please let me know what exact information you are expecting regarding network from me? I read the windows help regarding the same but unable to unde

[AI] NASSCOM Foundation facilitates FREE access to Microsoft Office 2010 for Not-for-Profit organizations

2010-06-20 Thread Subramani L
NASSCOM Foundation facilitates FREE access to Microsoft Office 2010 for Not-for-Profit organizations Press release For immediate publication Mumbai, India, June 18, 2010: NASSCOM Foundation's BiGTech programme which provides latest technology to non-profits in India, has announced the availabi

[AI] Fw: Torsten Brand Condolence Book & Memorial Fund

2010-06-20 Thread padmanabham
- Original Message - From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" To: ; "'Talks Mailing List'" ; "'The Accessible Phones Discussion List'" ; ; Cc: "'Access e-mail forum'" Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:29 AM Subject: Torsten Brand Condolence Book & Memorial Fund Dear All, Please forgive

Re: [AI] on fire fox.

2010-06-20 Thread Rohith P
hello this happened to me as well, though i'm in Kerala. it happens when there's some problem with the connection. nothing to do with the homepage settings. regards P. Rohith On 6/20/10, AMEEN wrote: > Hello friends, > when I open firefox, first appears the advertisement of Karnadaka BSNL. > we

Re: [AI] yahoo mail

2010-06-20 Thread Kiran S Deshpande
Hi, I agree with srinivasu, it is not possible in the same browser but with two different browsers it is possible. The Browsers have cookies enabled and hence it is not possible on the same browsers.. Regards, Kiran On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Srinivasu Chakravarthula < sriniv...@srinivasu

Re: [AI] yahoo mail

2010-06-20 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Hi, If I understand correctly, you would want to use two Yahoo! Mail accounts and open them within your browser at the same time; not sure though, but as far as my experience goes, it is not possible to do so on same browser; but not tried opening two different browsers. Regards, Srinivasu Chakr

Re: [AI] about dragging and dropping:

2010-06-20 Thread Raju singh
Hello ashish sir! this is again Raju singh. hope that all of my access indian friend are find. The term dragging is actually a four-part process. It consists of clicking the left mouse button on an item, then locking or holding down the left mouse button, using the arrow keys to move the JAWS cur

[AI] registering for Yahoo mail

2010-06-20 Thread Subramani L
Folks (Srini in particular): I tried opening an account in Yahoo mail and took all the time in the world to fill in the details. Even image capture didn't seem like a problem since the audio was very clear. But unfortunately, when I pressed the configure my yahoo mail button, nothing happened. I

[AI] yahoo mail

2010-06-20 Thread Anuj Verma
Dear Members,  Can I open 2 mail ID same tim e of yahoo mail? please describe it step by step.  thanks and regards- Dr. A.K. Verma mob- 09837269234. blog- http://akayurvedatreatment.blogspot.com/ Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www

[AI] Care for spellings in postings - a request

2010-06-20 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Dear all, Off late, there are several emails with lot of spelling and grammar mistakes. I do understand some of you may not got opportunity to study in English medium school and I'm one of them and that would be one of the possible reasons for spelling mistakes in emails and I don't mistake any

Re: [AI] about nokia PC Sweet

2010-06-20 Thread nitesh thakur
Dear friends I am also using nokia PC suite 7.1 You can also use PC Suite to follow these steppes- 1 press insort+f11 to select system tray 2 go to nokia pc suite with your phone model no such as “nokia pc suit nokia N72 connected by USB” 3 hit inter A menu will popup you can do any think to select

[AI] about angel

2010-06-20 Thread gajendra
hi Friends, is there anyone on list using " angel book reader ", ? and if yes , would you please give your review of your first hand experience ? thanks for that. gajendra vyas phone : 079-30127030 mobile : 09427065866 Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disabi

Re: [AI] tutorials for MS word and Excel

2010-06-20 Thread mukesh jain
hello, you can also use fileflyer.com or rapidshare.com to upload your files. these public servers keeps the files normally for longer period of time. thanks, On 6/14/10, Swasti Mathur wrote: > hello friends, > I want to learn MS word and Excel so any one of you can provide me audeo > tutorials

Re: [AI] Uploading HTML content on blogs

2010-06-20 Thread Shadab Husain
God bless you! I did it, and it is really amazing to see HTML content on my blog! I am thanking you on the list so that other AI bloggers can also upload HTML content. A million hearty wishes for your new venture again! Shadab Shadablucknow.blogspot.com On 6/20/10, Srinivasu Chakravarthula wr

Re: [AI] sending software through blue tooth -mobile?

2010-06-20 Thread Kit
Use YBrowser - Original Message - From: RAJINDER SEHGAL To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [AI] sending software through blue tooth -mobile? Yes u can send application by using bluetooth. Symply rename the file and remove .sis like the f

Re: [AI] sending software through blue tooth -mobile?

2010-06-20 Thread Kit
Use YBrowser - Original Message - From: sachit sahrawat To: Bijal Patel ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] sending software through blue tooth -mobile? Dear Bijal! You cannot send " sis and jar'"files through the bluetooth connecti

Re: [AI] Antispyware for vista

2010-06-20 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
download AVG antivirus 9.0. it work for spi also. - Original Message - From: "Adina Galani" To: Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 4:12 PM Subject: [AI] Antispyware for vista Hi, Anyone can suggest me a antispyware for vista? Thanks Adina Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rig

Re: [AI] requesting latest fermware for nokia n79

2010-06-20 Thread sunilsangtani
hello friend, pleas visit this official nokia website and explore the fermware updates for your mobile. http://europe.nokia.com/support/download-software/device-software-update# but friend, remember that if you are about to download or install new fermware for your phone, then pleas take sited h

Re: [AI] Uploading HTML content on blogs

2010-06-20 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Hello Shadab, If I understand correctly, you wanted to post some content to your blog; but you have created an HTML file. May be the easiest way is to copy the source of your HTML file and paste it to your blog post page. I haven't tried Blog spot, but word press do allow me to use HTML code for po

[AI] Drag and drop command

2010-06-20 Thread Ashish Jha
Hi Everyone, Requesting you to pls help me with invoking drag and drop functionality with JAWS.. I am trying with the command Ctr + caps lock + 8 in Laptop mode ( or insert + Ctr + Num Pad / in desktop mode ), which I foumd in JAWS help menu bar. But still I am unable to materialize the same.

[AI] Uploading HTML content on blogs

2010-06-20 Thread Shadab Husain
Hi Folks, Please tell me how to upload HTML content on blogs. Today I made an HTML page without thinking how will I post it on shadablucknow.blogspot.com . I went bonkers finding the right way and eventually I copied and pasted the thing! Cheers regards thanks with best wishes etc.! Shadab Posts

Re: [AI] information required.

2010-06-20 Thread Abdul Razzaq
On 6/20/10, Abdul Razzaq wrote: > On 6/20/10, Krishnan wrote: >> hai friends, >> good afternoon. i have to record some vbooks in computer. for that i need >> any suitable program. kindly help me to this regard. >> krishnan m moothimoola email: moothimo...@gmail.com phone: landline >> 0493624755 m

Re: [AI] information required.

2010-06-20 Thread Abdul Razzaq
On 6/20/10, Krishnan wrote: > hai friends, > good afternoon. i have to record some vbooks in computer. for that i need > any suitable program. kindly help me to this regard. > krishnan m moothimoola email: moothimo...@gmail.com phone: landline > 0493624755 mob:04936246755 > Voice your thoughts in

Re: [AI] information required.

2010-06-20 Thread Abdul Razzaq
On 6/20/10, Krishnan wrote: > hai friends, > good afternoon. i have to record some vbooks in computer. for that i need > any suitable program. kindly help me to this regard. > krishnan m moothimoola email: moothimo...@gmail.com phone: landline > 0493624755 mob:04936246755 > Voice your thoughts in

[AI] Antispyware for vista

2010-06-20 Thread Adina Galani
Hi, Anyone can suggest me a antispyware for vista? Thanks Adina Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsub

Re: [AI] information required.

2010-06-20 Thread mukesh jain
hello, you can also use total recorder to record your books on computer. this is very good utility to record in different formats. On 6/20/10, Krishnan wrote: > hai giriprasad > yes, i visited the cite and found the script but i am not able to install. > please send the same in to my personal. e

[AI] requesting latest fermware for nokia n79

2010-06-20 Thread austin pinto
hi friends i have nokia n79 with fermware v32.01 is it the latest? or is there any other latest fermware? if ya can you please give me? or please give me the download link thank you -- from austin Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with disability bill at: http://w

Re: [AI] information required.

2010-06-20 Thread Krishnan
hai giriprasad yes, i visited the cite and found the script but i am not able to install. please send the same in to my personal. email. moothimo...@gmail.com, - Original Message - From: "giri prasad" To: Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] information required.

Re: [AI] Inserting graphics in a presentation

2010-06-20 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Shadab, Go to insert menu and choose option "Picture" submenu and then choose "From file", if you would like to source from your machine. Then choose the file you want to insert and you are done. It's recommended to choose a template that has Title, content and image so that being a screen reader

Re: [AI] information required.

2010-06-20 Thread giri prasad
Dear Krishnan, I think gold wave is the best programme for recording. You can download jaws scripts for the gold wave from www.jaws-users.com On 20/06/2010, Krishnan wrote: > hai friends, > good afternoon. i have to record some vbooks in computer. for that i need > any suitable program. kindly

[AI] Inserting graphics in a presentation

2010-06-20 Thread Shadab Husain
Hi Friends, Can anyone please tell me how to insert graphics in a presentation? Eager for an early reply Shadab -- Easy tips for improving English at shadablucknow.blogspot.com My contributions to the press http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#links Shada

[AI] information required.

2010-06-20 Thread Krishnan
hai friends, good afternoon. i have to record some vbooks in computer. for that i need any suitable program. kindly help me to this regard. krishnan m moothimoola email: moothimo...@gmail.com phone: landline 0493624755 mob:04936246755 Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of pe

Re: [AI] Scripts for Google Talk

2010-06-20 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Amit, Well, maybe it would be great, if whoever is interested, they can update the scripts based on the existing scripts developed by Aruni. And perhaps, then send a request to Aruni to include in his website. I have just done that for Yahoo! Scripts. I don't think, Aruni would get the time to