Hi Tony,
late response as well - sorry.
I guess why this isn't cleaned up is the same thing as in many other issues.
If you have an admin which is in certain operators groups, and he's
loosing those groups, it's likely that he has been delegated in some other
ways. So not reversing the settings
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AdminSDHolder orphans
Hi Tony,
late response as well - sorry.
I guess why this isn't cleaned up is the same thing as in many other issues.
If you have an admin which is in certain operators groups, and he's
loosing those groups, it's likely that he has been
Of Tony Murray
Sent: Montag, 22. Januar 2007 01:00
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AdminSDHolder orphans
Hi Ulf
Thanks for the thoughts.
I can see there could be issues with trying to revert settings after an
object is removed from one of the protected groups. I'm now
setting the attribute to 0 only will not help
to stop the adminsdholder from managing a certain group/user you either:
* remove it from a protected group, check inheritance and reset admincount to
not set
* configure dsheuristics (forest-wide config) as mentioned in
You'll also need to re-enable inheritance on the affected account.
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Subject: [ActiveDir] adminsdholder
Dear all, i
Jorge, thanks for your reply post
i certainly favour the former option on account of the other being a forest-wide
configuration.
on this basis if we have removed the user from protected groups then doesn't
setting
do the job ?
the permission we are 'losing' is not one that is set at parent OU
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Jorge, thanks for your reply post
i certainly favour the former
address
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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Jorge, thanks for your reply post
i certainly favour the former option on account of the other
Sorry, Tony. I've been away from emails for most of the week. Did you get a
useful response to your question? If not, does my 2-part AdminSDHolder blog
(http://www.akomolafe.com/JustSaying/tabid/193/EntryID/19/Default.aspx and
/2006 6:06 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AdminSDHolder orphans
Sorry, Tony. I've been away from emails for most of the week. Did you get a
useful response to your question? If not, does my 2-part AdminSDHolder blog
(http://www.akomolafe.com/JustSaying/tabid/193
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Yeah this caused me issues when I was at a large client which had this
proposensity to put everyone and their brother
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The SDPROP thread technically, doesn't do anythign with inheritance.
That
is a trait of the security descriptor
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The SDPROP thread technically, doesn't do anythign with inheritance.
That
is a trait of the security descriptor, which
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The SDPROP thread technically, doesn't do anythign with inheritance.
That
is a trait
Yeah this caused me issues when I was at a large client which had this
proposensity to put everyone and their brother into a group that
triggered this behavior. What I would do is dump everyone with
admincount0, then set admincount=0 on all of them, wait a bit, and see
who was back to 0 and then
?
My first thought would be YES, it should reverse the changes it made
previously...on the other side...why doesn't it already? there is a
script...2003 is the second AD version... so I suspect something else might be
the reason why it does not do it
adminSDHolder sets the list you mention
March 2006 21:27To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir]
AdminSDHolder
But that is
perl -e "print \"very
\"x1000,\"\n\""
dangerous.
If you happen to drop one of these objects in an OU that
has some inherited permissions defined such asuser:FC t
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Neal: Would you like to alter the list because you
would like to add your own
A few minor additions to other posts in this
thread:
The list of objects protected by SDPROP is hard coded
AFAIK. The SD applied to adminsdholder is then copied to those objects and (by
default), all other ACEs are removed and inheritance is disabled
too.
We discussed changing the list of
hange what is protected at all?
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Simon-WeidnerSent: Monday, March 20, 2006 3:32 PMTo:
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Yes - sorry - didn't want to suggest doing that - just
wanted to outline how it works.
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joeSent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:27 PMTo:
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AdminSDHolder
Hi Tom,
I do not fully understand what you
mean.
When MS says that Print Operators, Account
Operators,or Backup Operators are protected by the PDCE checking the ACL on the
AdminSDHolder object, I never see
those groups in the
ACE.
Wrong - MS does not say that the Operators are
The SDPROP thread monitors groups/users that are considered
"sensitive" and if the SD of one of those objects is not the same as what is on
the adminSDHolder object, that SD is applied to the object. They are not
specified in the ACL on the adminSDHolder object because they shouldn't have
when you say if the SD of one of those objects is not the same as what is on the adminSDHolder object..., where on the adminSDHolder object are these values kept that help it determine the SD?
Thanks
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The SDPROP thread monitors groups/users that are
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KernSent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:26 AMTo:
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KernSent: Friday, March 17, 2006 7:26 PMTo:
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AdminSDHolder
when you say " if the SD of one of those objects is not the same as what is
on the adminSDHolder object...", where on the adminSDHolder object are these
values kept
Hi,
Have you seen Delegated permissions are not available and inheritance is
automatically disabled (http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817433)
This article describes how you can configure which default protected groups
are protected or not by the adminsdholder object. Although possible I do not
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Sent: 5/22/2005 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Adminsdholder Propertiy Qustion...
Hi Jorge,
WAAOOU ! Endeed i was not aware that print operators group was able to
log on to my DCs and do task as reboot !!
And yes,my DCs are also prints servers. maybe it's
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Adminsdholder Propertiy Qustion...
Hi Jorge,
WAAOOU ! Endeed i was not aware that print operators group was able to
log on to my DCs and do task as reboot !!
And yes,my DCs are also prints servers. maybe it's not good for
security... but it's hard to convince my
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Adminsdholder Propertiy Qustion...
Thanks for all the technical
links, i've began to read "Delegated permissions
are not available and inheritanceis automatically disabled", and il looks very
interesting. with many workarounds concerning my
needs
(1) I expect the default permissions to REPLACE all existing permissions,
because otherwise the DEFAULT buttonb would be meaningless
(2) The DEFAULT button reads the security descriptor in the schema for that
particular object and places that onto the object and it enables the allow
inherit from
or both have the /reset permission option)
/Guido
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(1) I
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AdminSDHolder and Default button
I can confirm what Jorge expects below - yes, all explicit permissions
are removed and then the default from whatever is defined in the schema
is set.
You can script the resetting of permissions back
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