Hi all!
Is there a server option or a another why to specify for how long a process
will be active?
Example, If all drives are busy I might not want reclamation to be pending
for hours until two drive becomes available.
Med vänlig hälsning
But that does not apply to automated libraries.
I use TSM 4.1.3.0 on w2k and a STK9710 library with 6 DLT drives.
tia
Henrik
Raghu S
OK, I only used 'help upd devc' and looked at DLT.
MOUNTWait
Specifies the maximum number of minutes to wait for a sequential
access
volume to be mounted in a manual library. This parameter is optional
and does not apply to automated libraries. If the mount request is not
don't think so. It applies to all libraries.Plz check again
regds
Raghu
Henrik
WahlstedtTo:
Hi All
Thanx in advance, new to this and not sure I've set this up correctly.
I originally wanted to keep 7 versions and delete after 30 days any deleted
files.
I run TSM Server 5.1 and I'm trying to expire all my data down to only one
copy of the data. My versions were set to 7 and the rest as
did you activate the policy set after updating copy group? ( just for
confirmation )
regards
Raghu.
Lawrie Scott -
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The Mountwait parameter only specifies how long the process will wait for a
tape to be mounted after the process has been allocated the necessary
drive(s).
If I understand Henrik's question, there doesn't appear to be a parameter
which governs how long a process will wait for the tape drives to
I believe the Process should be completed with Failure status , if the
mount request was cancelled or timed out.
( i thinks its TSM internal.May be Raibeck can answer this better )
Regds
raghu.
Richard Foster
Richard.Foster@To: [EMAIL
Hi
Why IBM categorized Magstar MP 3570 C02/C12/C22 as Tape Drive.
Why not as Library? It has 2 drives, 20 slots, barcode reader, etc.. I
haven't worked on it, just came across reading Library and Tape drive
Specs.
Thanks
Regards
Raghu.
Hi
I work on TSM soluion design. Most of the time i see customer unhappy with
the price of 3583 LTO.
( I stopped suggesting single drive libraries for TSM ). I found Magstar
3570 MP is a suitable one for medium sized corporates.I have no idea on Non
IBM libraries.Can anybody suggest me Non IBM
Hi,
We often use a Sony Lib-162 AIT3. Very good price and good Performance! 2
Drives, 16 Slots
More Information at www.storagebysony.com
MfG
Sascha Bräuning
Sparkassen Informatik, Fellbach
OrgEinheit: 6322
Wilhelm-Pfitzer Str. 1
70736 Fellbach
Telefon: (0711) 5722-2144
Telefax: (0711)
Hi
I'm not sure about the pricing but HP have good small libraries. I use an
old DLT7000 system that works great. Maybe look at some libraries and then
check the TSM site for compatibility.
Lawrie
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From: Raghu S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 December 2002 01:45
Try comparing the IBM3583, with the same libraries from Dell (can't remember
name) and Adic (Scalar100). I don't know, but there could be a few bucks to
save. I believe that Adic have quit a few other libraries in their series.
You also have Compaqs MSL5026 (very scalable - OEM'ed from Overland),
This is one of the prides of TSM - support for many devices.
Better approach (IMO) would be to find a reliable vendor in your area and
check their appropriate and attractive products for (I)TSM support. Most
of the time it will be supported and if is something brand new few months
later it usually
Actually they call them Tape Subsystem. Only 3570-B1A is called Tape
Drive.
And the categorization is because they can be attached to 3575 Tape
Library Dataservers.
Somewhat similar to the difference of 3590-x1A and 3590-x11.
Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant
Raghu S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by:
Hi TSM'ers
About 10months ago IBM/Tivoli offered a CD filled with troubleshooting tips
and resolutions to TSM problems. It was available to the general public and
could be purchased via the Tivoli web site.
At that time my company did not deal with TSM so we did not see the need to
purchase it.
Uhmmm, Lawrie, I don't think you will get what you want...
Look at TSM as a big file cabinet with copies of files from other servers.
A file in TSM is ACTIVE if it is the way it looked on the client during
the last incremental (or selective)
A file in TSM in INACTIVE if it isn't the way it looked
Hello,
I see the same thing with client 5.1.5.2 on Windows 2000 and server 5.1.1.6
on AIX. The strange thing is that it started a few days ago. It may have
started in conjunction with applying a few MS patches to Windows. But I'm
absolutely not sure.
Best regards
Gerhard
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Gerhard Rentschler
Query the node with F=d and change Number of Mount points from 0 to at
least number of drives you have in library. What happened is stgpool
probally filled up and the backup tried to continue on tape, but with
Number of Mount points set to 0 said no and it failed.
Thanks,
Robert Rippy
From:
We are looking for a solution for the following problem:
During a restore of a whole TSM-client we found that the needed ACTIVE
backup_versions were heavy scattered around our virtual tape-volumes. This
was the main reason for an unacceptable long restore-time. Disk as a primary
STGPool is too
Dwight,
No, your not going blind.
There is no TSM client that will run on DYNIX/ptx.
Here is the URL that shows what platform are supported by TSM
http://www.tivoli.com/products/index/storage-mgr/platforms.html
Sias
Get your own 800 number
Hi Werner,
we might need some clearifying of your setup.
What is your server version?
Are you backing up to tape, or disk?
Generally I can say this:
If you are running TSM v. 5.x you have the possibility to use MOVE NODEDATA,
which moves data for one node to another storagepool (from tape to
Hello all, I have a question regarding the node parameter MAXNUMMP. Does
this affect only tape mounts or does it affect sequential file mounts also?
The reason I ask is that on several NT servers that have more than one
partition I set the dsm.opt parameter resourceutilization to a number of 1 +
the client was already set to 2 mount points. the storage pool does not fill
up. any other suggestions?
-Original Message-
From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not
yes, its at ML 10.
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From: David Longo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails with Media mount not possible
You didn't mention the Maint Level of AIX 4.3.3. If you have less
than ML 10,
I've built a simple perl script that I run after filling the I/O station. It
issues the checkin command, looks for and responds to the 'reply nnn'
message, and then updates the status of each tape as it checks in to
readwrite.
Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
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From: Matt
I've also seen this where Unix hasn't released the drives from the OS. TSM
seems them as available but not Unix. I have had to delete the drive and
redefine so that they can be used. It was a bug in a certain code of TSM
but I can't remember which one or even if that is truly your problem.
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Sias Dealy wrote:
No, your not going blind.
Maybe you both are looking wrong direction :)
There is no TSM client that will run on DYNIX/ptx.
There is.
Here is the URL that shows what platform are supported by TSM
I have a site that has had a clients directory structure restructured
without notifying me. This directory structure has over 2 Terabytes of
information in it. I found this out when my nightly backup choked.
Is there any way that I can move data that has been backed up perviously
to the new
Found it !
Thanks !
that's what I get for only looking at 5.1 stuff :-(
Dwight
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From: Radoslav Bendik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is there a tsm client that will run
We are looking for a solution for the following problem:
During a restore of a whole TSM-client we found that the needed ACTIVE
backup_versions were heavy scattered around our virtual tape-volumes. This
was the main reason for an unacceptable long restore-time...
Werner - As Geirr said,
The strange thing as that other clients are backing up fine... these are
three very similar, nearly identical clients, all configured exactly the
same. the others backup fine, and this incremental keeps failing in the same
spot with the media mount not possible.
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From:
Hi,
thanks a lot for your tips. With all of your mentioned hints we go to the
right direction. But I think that there is still room for doing it better
(VERITAS for ex. has to de-DUPLEX their tapes after the backup_process to
be able for an acceptable fast restore).
Our envir:
- TSM Server:
IBM OEM's an HP library that IBM calls the 3600, that will use either DLT
or LTO. They start at 2 drives/20 slots, and go up to 6 drives/60 slots.
They are supported by TSM, but I have no personal experience with them.
Regards,
-Lloyd
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:14:47 +0530
Raghu S [EMAIL
Does it fail on the same file or directory every time, and does that file or
directory attract
a management class which is pointing to a different storage pool
Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 02:29:12 PM
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yes, it is always failing on the same file(s) in the same directory. how
would it attract a different management class? this is using the default
management class and we dont have any includes or excludes set up.
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From: John Naylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
Hi,
Can someone with experience of TDP for Informix advise on an effective
strategy for expiring old backups.
As far as I know there is no neat way to expire logical logs, since every
logical logs has its own unique name.
It would be a good solution if you could delete backup files on the TSM
Dwight,
We are running TSM client on our Dynix/ptx
The TSM client is: Version 3, Release 1, Level 0.8
The DYNIX/ptx: 4.0 V4.4.8
Also there is version 4.1 and 4.1.1 available for download (Don't know the
requirements):
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/cli
This HP library sounds very similar to the SUN L20/40/60 Library
(Re-badged HP KIT) We have one using DLT and it functions ok. It has also
remote management card also so you can administer the library, for the
most part, from a web type interface.
ADIC Scalars are also supported I think.
On the client, do a 'dsmc show opt' and a 'dsmc q inclexcl' to check for
stray management-class bindings that are different from your other working
clients. If all your clients don't belong to a common domain, then check
the server for missing copygroup definitions, incorrect target pool,
target
Backupsets are the optimal solution
In TSM v5, I've replaced my backupsets with MOVE NODE DATA as my
preferred way of consolidating a node's backup data onto a minimum
number of tapes.
David
Hi Richard
thanks for your hints.
We still hope on a solution that makes us happy. The idea with BackupSet is
theoretically the closest one. But I heard from people with experince, that
(i) its not so easy to restore a client with the newest backupversions and
(ii) we have the time-problem moved
Hey guys, lighten up! And read what he said. Those of us forced to use
poorly designed mailers might find it easier to have both addresses in the
Reply-To field. Personally, I disagree, but I will do so politely. (And I
can speak with authority about poorly designed mailers. I am forced not only
everything checks out so far.
now what i have done is a specific backup of just the directory it was
failing on... dsmc incr /tibco/logs/ -subdir=yes
that ran fine and when i ran the system wide backup again it got further and
failed on another subdirectory of /tibco. i then did a backup of THAT
I have a question regarding the node parameter MAXNUMMP. Does this
affect only tape mounts or does it affect sequential file mounts also?
A good question. I don't know the answer, but those people who run the
FILE-based DIRMC setup might know, as they're using this type of pool. Tab
and the
So are you saying that the management class that the directories are atracting
is pointing them
to the same disk storage pool which you said had plenty of space.
**
The information in this E-Mail is confidential and may be
Kai, thanks for your message. I thought I was misunderstood because of my
poor English.
It is my observation that teaching people moral or netiquette is not very
often successful. Telling people they should be careful with vacancy notices
is as much noise as the Out of Office mails themselves.
yes, everything is going to the disk storage pool that has pleny of space.
these systems dont use multiple management classes.
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From: John Naylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Idle system fails
Envirnment:
TSM 5.1.1.6 on AIX 4.3.3 ML10
Atape version:7.1.5.0
4 3590 drives in a 3494
The problem I'm having is I keep getting files called Atape.rmt#.dump_h# in
/var/adm/ras. One time I was not paying close enough attention to available
disk space on my TSM server these files filled up
Find a reseller who carries Overland Data libraries. The primary source of
Overland libraries used to be Compaq, but since the HP/Compaq merger they
are obviously going to only selling HP libraries. Overland's libraries scale
very well in the midrange and are extremely cost competitive compared to
well, by using the piecemeal method of successfully individually backing up
everything that failed i have finally been able to run a successfull system
wide backup. strange. is it possible with a 1GB filesize limit on the
diskpool that several files added up to more than 1 gb? would that cause a
They are normal yet they mean you took some hit on a tape drive. You will
probably notice that the date time stamp on the files matches errors in your
errpt. If you have a series of them for one drive they definitely point to
a problem. We get them every so often. We don't get alot unless a
How about using the Policy Domain to schedule a backup every so often. We
are thinking of doing this and changing the Copy Mode (in the Backup Copy
Group) to Absolute causing the backup to be a full and this will bring the
node date closer for faster restores.
Thank You,
Bill Rosette
Data
Hi.
I'm trying to import several filesystems related to one node from ADSM 3.1.2
(on AIX 4.3.3) to TSM 4.2.1.11 (on Win2K).
Exporting data gave me no problem, but TSM can import only a few
filesystems; when I try to import one of the others, TSM server falls down
with a funny message indicating
i finally figured out why my incrementals to the diskpool were failing...
large files were trying to go directly to tape ALL MY TAPE PATHS ARE
OFFLINE!! how the heck does that happen?
On the TSM Server, what does 'query occupancy' report ? In what pools are
your backups of this client vs others ultimately landing ?
Conko, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What version of TSM are you on? Since we got on TSM 5.1.1.6 We been getting Tape
paths offline rather than Tape drive offline. It took me a couple days to discover
this after going to the new version of TSM...
David C. Pearson
IS Production Support Analyst
System Network Service
Snohomish
We do pretty much the same thing on SCSI libraries. This isn't just a
problem with 3584 libraries, but all SCSI libraries with an I/O port.
We have an admin script CHECKIN that has the checkin libv command with the
appropriate options. If I want to run this manually, RUN CHECKIN, followed
by a
The only time I have seen this is when I had network problems I lost
contact with our library manager.
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Bruce Kamp
Midrange Systems Analyst II
Memorial Healthcare System
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597
Fax: (954) 985-1404
Hi.
Due to a company directive, we've just begun using Control-M for scheduling
TSM backups. Is anyone out there doing this? If so, how do you deal with
MAXSESSIONS? Backups are being scheduled, but we keep exceeding
MAXSESSIONS.
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc., and its subsidiary
i know this is a stupid question, but here goes...
what is your reclamation threshold set to for that storage pool? are there
other tapes available to reclaim to?
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From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TSMers...
We are running OS390 2.10 with a 4.2.3 TSM Server.
We upgraded to 4.2.3 in November and have been running cleanup
backupgroups off and on since that time to try to get the system object
issue resolved. (Sure wish there was a duration parameter for the
cleanup so, we could stop it
I'm still trying to get journaling to work on this node. With almost 5
million files now it's getting to the point of rediculous if you ask me.
Below are some errors that are in the jbberror.log and I was wondering if
anyone can help decipher them for me. What settings might I change in the
ini
Are you sure that you need to run cleanup backupgroups.
I did not think this problem impacted os390 TSM servers.
I am on 4.2.2 and I do not think I kave a problem with this.
Cinda Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 04:36:26 PM
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Hi all,
Currently I don4t use collocation in my backup.
Any problem in to change for collocation=yes ??
I have a IBM Frame L32 - 3584, with 4 drives and 202 volumes ( 97 volumes = private )
Thanks
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Kind Regards,
Elenara Geraldo
Analyst Support
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I have had this issue on some of ours, and rather than fight it, to reclaim
a tape or two
I have done a 'move data volname' and if it is a copypool volume that is
offsite, it will
move the data from the volume logically (from local tape or disk pool) to a
new copypool
volume (or append to a
I'm trying to join backups with bu_copy_groups to determine current backup
and experation based on class. However, when I issue the following command
I get the following error:
tsm: TSM_C01select distinct a.node_name, a.filespace_name, a.class_name,
b.domain_name, b.verexists, b.retextra -
cont
I had a tape set to read-only access Sunday due to
excessive read errors. I started an audit volume
yesterday about 1:00pm. It's still running as of
11:00 am, and has found about 30 damaged files so far.
I'm not pleased that the audit volume is still
running almost 24 hours later, but that's
.frustration on:
Can't help you Gill but I feel your pain. Working through very similar
issues with the Journal feature. We have 5-6 clients that are in the 5
million file range and constantly a problem for us. While it's easy for some
to say just split up the workload on to two or more clients,
Hmm,
I believe there was some past suggestion that you just deleted the system
objects from the server
and took fresh backups is this a possibility in your shop.
Cinda Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/18/2002 05:25:54 PM
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Well that makes me think of a old saying,
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will
eat for a life time...
Even the oldest dog can be taught new tricks.. you just need the proper
motivation.
:)
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Gerhard Rentschler
I need to create a select statement that concatenates numeric fields as text
-- I need to create a single text field from the four numeric fields in the
NODES table into a single text field.
Once I get the fields CAST as CHAR type, how do I concatenate them?
I tried SUBSTR but it pukes on too
That's what I would love to do but, I'm not getting any buy in on that.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/02 11:35AM
Hmm,
I believe there was some past suggestion that you just deleted the
system
objects from the server
and took fresh backups is this a possibility in your shop.
Cinda Mullen [EMAIL
Try something like this:
Select cast(client_version as char(1)) || cast(client_level as char(1)) from
nodes
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Paul Gondim van Dongen
Engenheiro de Sistemas
MCSE
Tivoli Certified Consultant - Storage Manager
VANguard - Value Added Network guardians
http://www.vanguard-it.com.br
Fone: 55 81
I was just about to post this same question. I am seeing the exact same
thing. Found it yesterday when I was attempting to vary a disk pool
volume offline.
It looks like the %6C4B is replacing something??? It appeared for this
it was replacing the '.' with the '%6c4b' in our disk dataset
Unfortunately that little disclaimer is added after I send the email, it is
a company policy, and there is nothing you nor I can do about it. As far as
a cow catching a rabbit... that is highly unlikely and totally irrelevant to
this conversation. Please elaborate, I'm from the United States and
Yes, that will work fine.
The only other thing you should do is check the MAXSCRATCH parameter for
your primary tape pool.
(q stgpool TAPEPOOLNAME f=d)
If you leave MAXSCRATCH set to a high number, TSM will start a new tape for
each client.
If you have more than 202 clients, all your tapes will
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-- 12-18-02 11:07 S.SHEPPARD (SHS)Problems with z/OS server
Zoltan:
We see the same thing. Problem is described in APAR PQ68442 - fixed in
4.2.3.2 patch level. Here is the description:
Problem Summary:
Our test server is 5.1.5.4 and the fields are ok.
Tony Garrison
I/T Sr. Systems Programmer
USAA
210-913-9836
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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:04 AM
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Subject: new DB fields in 5152 server?
Hi
Thanks to you all, perfect answer!
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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:52 PM
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Way to go Paul !
example run against the occupancy table...
tsm:
Sounds similar enough to probably be it, especialy since I have a lot of
nodes with . in the name.
However, still don't see the 4.2.3.2 patch out there. Just checked.
Sam Sheppard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We are planning to upgrade all our clients to V5.1.5. My question is if
there is some way to distribute the client code to all our NT clients
automatically. We have several hundert clients and upgrading client code is
a stable fight with my NT admins, they are plain getting tired of me asking
There is no way to do this that I know of other than backing up again.
If they had given you warning and had just moved to say another
disk on the client system and kept the same dir structure, that would
not have impacted you.
David Longo
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I have a site that
Hi all;
I'm getting ready to preform a Disaster Recovery test (with Sungard) and I was
wondering if anyone would be interested in reviewing my steps and letting me know of
anything I may be missing. - Thanks in advance!
THINGS TO TAKE:
mksysb (and savevgs)
AIX 4.3.3 cdroms
Atape drivers
DLT
More questions. I was looking at TSM under ibm.com and I saw some
Certification but the TSM portion seemed to be Security oriented. Do you
or anyone know of any kind of TSM Admin Certification, maybe even Backup
Admin Certified? I see a great deal of admin issues more so than
programming,
Look for test 0799, its the Tivoli Certified Consultant 5.1 test.
Thanks,
Robert Rippy
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More questions. I was
I know there is or at least was Tivoli Storage Manager Implementation which
would make you a Tivoli Certified Consultant. That is what I have done.
Becky
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Look here for more info:
http://www.tivoli.com/services/certification/roadmap/cert_51itsm.html
Test appears to be test# 000-772
Chris Murphy
IT Network Analyst
Idaho Dept. of Lands
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From: William Rosette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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I am trying to see if I am on the right track here. I don't have a test
Netware server to play with. Please let me know if I am thinking
correctly, or if I am way off base. Thanks
I have recently been told that we need to backup certain files on a machine
weekly, and the rest of the files on
If you want to track the number of mounts TSM does to your tapes that's
pretty easy, you can get it from the SUMMARY table.
Set up a query, for example :
select date(start_time) , drive_name, volume_name from summary where
activity='TAPE MOUNT'
You can use perl (from Windoze or *IX) or a shell
Good idea.Many thanks to all.
Regards
Raghu.
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