Re: draft of press release
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 14:20 -0400, Stas Bekman wrote: Philip M. Gollucci wrote: Perrin Harkins wrote: Are you talking about separate pools of interpreters perl vhost? Is that really working? I donn't think is works yet as this need will use the perlchild MPM which isn't finished and isn't currently being actively developed by httpd. Not quite. It does work even with the prefork mpm. But there are issues. If I say something like Improved isolation of servers for easier use in ISPs is that overstating it? My concern is that an ISP would ask us about this after seeing the release and we'd look foolish saying, well, it doesn't really work well enough to use yet. Separate pools of interpreters per vhost work, but it has no relation to the ISPs whose problem is a secure separation between users. But perchild (and its equivalents) aren't there yet, though it has nothing to do with mod_perl (it's on the apache playground). Though I've heard that metux mpm[1] is used by some people in production. I haven't tried it, so I can't tell if it works under mod_perl. [1] http://www.metux.de/mpm/en/?patpage= There's also Peruser MPM http://www.telana.com/peruser.php It's an alpha, but the development going on. Peruser seems to be more suitable for MP2 than Metux, because it uses precesses instead of threads. That's all I know. I haven't tested it yet. - http://izbori2005.netinfo.bg - 2005 - -. , , ! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Monday 23 May 2005 1:43 pm, Stas Bekman wrote: Perrin, one more thing you may want to mention. Quoting Robert Spier: qpsmtpd (qmail-perl-smtpd, which really doesn't have much to do with qmail anymore) http://qpsmtpd.develooper.com/ contains a mod_perl 2 backend -- not for HTTP -- but to do SMTP. Apache 2 was re-architected to be more protocol agnostic - so you can use it for almost any connection based protocol. I know about that one, but I thought the MailChannels story was better. Why not stick this draft in subversion somewhere in docs/ so we can more easily submit diffs and make trivial edits to it ? Philippe M. Chiasson m/gozer\@(apache|cpan|ectoplasm)\.org/ GPG KeyID : 88C3A5A5 http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/ F9BF E0C2 480E 7680 1AE5 3631 CB32 A107 88C3A5A5 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: draft of press release
Philippe M. Chiasson wrote: Apache Software Foundation Releases mod_perl 2.0, Bringing Full Apache 2 API to Perl Developers Should we call this mod_perl 2.0 or more precisely mod_perl 2.0.0 ? 2.0 is perfect. I'd try and mention something about APR as well in there. Not too much, but some. Hmm, yes, but that might be confusing. It allows you to run apps outside Apache :) This release has received extensive testing, both from automated tests built with the new Apache::Test framework and from users. mod_perl's test suite now includes over more than 2500 individual functionnal tests, compared to mod_perl 1's modest 400 ... drop the mp1 comparison. just keep the first half One thing I'd like to see too is is? end of transmission? -- __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
Philippe M. Chiasson wrote: Perrin Harkins wrote: Okay, this is what I have so far. Keep in mind that is targeted at quasi-technical publications like InfoWorld as well as geekier ones like Linux Journal. I made up a quote from one of us because I'm told that's a good thing to have early in the text, and I attributed it to Geoff because I think he's away right now and won't be able to complain about it. I like it as well. Congrats all. What doesn't kill us, can only make us stronger. Nothing is impossible. Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 301.254.5198 Consultant / http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml Senior Developer / Liquidity Services, Inc. http://www.liquidityservicesinc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
On Monday 23 May 2005 10:03 am, Frank Wiles wrote: Other than the docs I noticed we don't seem to have any mp2 articles listed on http://perl.apache.org/docs/offsite/articles.html. I wrote a short article for SysAdmin that I have up on one of my sites at http://revsys.com/writings/modperl.html. Once I rewrite it to work with API changes in 2.0 should I put it on the articles page? I say put it up now. - Perrin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
On Monday 23 May 2005 11:05 am, Jim Martinez wrote: Consider deleting new or replacing with altering to Prominent new or improved features... Some of the features, if I understand things correctly, don't seem so new, like Apache::Test and accessing Apache configuration from Perl. Those are new. In mp1 you had to jump through a lot of hoops to access the full config data after the parsing phase. - Perrin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
Perrin, one more thing you may want to mention. Quoting Robert Spier: qpsmtpd (qmail-perl-smtpd, which really doesn't have much to do with qmail anymore) http://qpsmtpd.develooper.com/ contains a mod_perl 2 backend -- not for HTTP -- but to do SMTP. Apache 2 was re-architected to be more protocol agnostic - so you can use it for almost any connection based protocol. -- __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
Perrin Harkins wrote: On Monday 23 May 2005 2:49 am, Stas Bekman wrote: should mention that input can be filtered as well. What's a good example application for that? I'm not aware of one in perl, but ssl is implemented as an input filter. But may be just mentioning will be fine. * Extensible high-speed HTTP request parsing library, libapreq2, already in use by other Apache 2 modules. does it really belong here? I only included it because I had an old e-mail from you asking me to. I'll take it out. Hmm, I'm very inconsistent, am I? :) Let's ask Joe. Joe, what do you think, should we announce libapreq as a part of mod_perl 2.0 press release? To me the main obstacle is that it is not released yet. May be add a long list of companies using mod_perl? some names from our site and more from http://www.masonhq.com/?MasonPoweredSites ? I don't want to make a long list out of it because it could start to sound desperate, but a few more might fit. +1 -- __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
On Monday 23 May 2005 1:43 pm, Stas Bekman wrote: Perrin, one more thing you may want to mention. Quoting Robert Spier: qpsmtpd (qmail-perl-smtpd, which really doesn't have much to do with qmail anymore) http://qpsmtpd.develooper.com/ contains a mod_perl 2 backend -- not for HTTP -- but to do SMTP. Apache 2 was re-architected to be more protocol agnostic - so you can use it for almost any connection based protocol. I know about that one, but I thought the MailChannels story was better. - Perrin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
On Monday 23 May 2005 2:45 am, Philippe M. Chiasson wrote: I'd try and mention something about APR as well in there. Not too much, but some. Can you give me a couple of sentences to work with? * Easy access to Apache configuration information from Perl. Even easier access to... Didn't it kind of suck in mp1? You had to do tricks if you wanted to keep the data. I suppose it's a minor point though. * Configurable multi-threaded operation, vastly improving scalability in Microsoft Windows environments. And offering long sought after Perl module isolation between server instances for ISPs , staging vs. prod servers, multiple developers, ... (multiple Perl interps blabla) Are you talking about separate pools of interpreters perl vhost? Is that really working? - Perrin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
Perrin Harkins wrote: Are you talking about separate pools of interpreters perl vhost? Is that really working? I donn't think is works yet as this need will use the perlchild MPM which isn't finished and isn't currently being actively developed by httpd. -- END - What doesn't kill us, can only make us stronger. Nothing is impossible. Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 301.254.5198 Consultant / http://p6m7g8.net/Resume/resume.shtml Senior Developer / Liquidity Services, Inc. http://www.liquidityservicesinc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
Philip M. Gollucci wrote: Perrin Harkins wrote: Are you talking about separate pools of interpreters perl vhost? Is that really working? I donn't think is works yet as this need will use the perlchild MPM which isn't finished and isn't currently being actively developed by httpd. Not quite. It does work even with the prefork mpm. But there are issues. -- __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
Joe Schaefer wrote: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's ask Joe. Joe, what do you think, should we announce libapreq as a part of mod_perl 2.0 press release? To me the main obstacle is that it is not released yet. I don't see the harm in including it. libapreq2 is beta-quality now, people are already using it, and I expect an official 2.06 release to emerge sometime in (early) June. In which case go for it Perrin. -- __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide --- http://perl.apache.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: draft of press release
Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's ask Joe. Joe, what do you think, should we announce libapreq as a part of mod_perl 2.0 press release? To me the main obstacle is that it is not released yet. I don't see the harm in including it. libapreq2 is beta-quality now, people are already using it, and I expect an official 2.06 release to emerge sometime in (early) June. -- Joe Schaefer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
