[AFMUG] CBRS LTE options

What are some decent options for LTE other than Baicells? I see that Baltic is carrying Airspan LTE as well as Blinq (which I'm unfamiliar with). Are there any other options that aren't outrageously expensive I should check out? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

Agreed. And I think actual power consumption is closer to 65 or 70W. Maybe the 80W number is at startup or extremes of temperature or something. I have 2 of them on one tower and 1 on another powered via POE over cables right at the 100 meter limit, so >300 feet. So they are powered over

Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd

Yeah, that contaminates all sorts of things. Google is aggressive on syncing stuff you don't intend to. At one point my remembered stuff had half our customers in it and I had to wipe all of it On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 8:33 PM Brian Webster wrote: > Is it possible that you were logged in to more

Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd

Is it possible that you were logged in to more than one Chrome browser on more than one computer? If you are logged in and synced across more than one computer in Chrome, it is possible someone else used one of the other computers and that log in user name synced across browsers (including

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9

Mimosa supports it. On Tuesday, March 31, 2020, SmarterBroadband wrote: > So 33 companies have STAs from the FCC to use 45MHz of the 5.9 band to > increase bandwidth during the Covid crisis. > > > > What gear will support this? 450? ePMP? > > > > Adam > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd

Not saying it's Aliens but it's Aliens On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 4:45 PM wrote: > Went to log into gmail and it came up with ksdpm...@gmail.com all ready > filled out. > Pretty sure nobody has had physical access to this computer for months... > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Up Tower

I'm not following these requirements for the 450M. The 450M @ 5ghz uses ~80W peak (if you aren't using the AUX port). This is about 1.6A @ 48V. 12AWG cable with 56V at 250ft has a voltage drop of ~2.8% resulting in 54.5V at the top of the tower. The 450M should run just fine at 54.5V according

[AFMUG] OT - learning to dog

So do we like bark at other dogs, or just like people walking by? And how long do you do this, do you do this all day? https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/learning-to-dog-quarantine-tiktok/ https://www.tiktok.com/@briannastorey -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

Didn’t Mythbusters build an air gun to fire a ping pong ball at supersonic speed? From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 5:47 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update The well watch sounds like a sudden puff of air. You drop a tube from the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd

Next time use Gmail.com  On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 3:48 PM Colin Stanners wrote: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/answers/comments/cvzdm9/strange_behavior_from_google_login/ > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:45 PM wrote: > >> Went to log into gmail and it came up with ksdpm...@gmail.com all ready >> filled

Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd

https://www.reddit.com/r/answers/comments/cvzdm9/strange_behavior_from_google_login/ On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:45 PM wrote: > Went to log into gmail and it came up with ksdpm...@gmail.com all ready > filled out. > Pretty sure nobody has had physical access to this computer for months... > -- >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

The well watch sounds like a sudden puff of air. You drop a tube from the unit into the inside of the pipe fitting. From the outside it sounds like a little pop ... pop ... pop. bp On 4/2/2020 3:21 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

[AFMUG] OT Odd

Went to log into gmail and it came up with ksdpm...@gmail.com all ready filled out. Pretty sure nobody has had physical access to this computer for months...-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] needs landline once per day

How would VOIP prove that he is at home?   Seems like the easiest way to get around that... On 4/2/20 3:35 PM, Nate Burke wrote: How do they know that his number proves he's at home?  Or does the agency he's calling have some way to look it up from the telco? On 4/2/2020 5:32 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] needs landline once per day

How do they know that his number proves he's at home? Or does the agency he's calling have some way to look it up from the telco? On 4/2/2020 5:32 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Well, a kind deed is a kind deed... *From:* Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Thursday, April 2, 2020 4:23 PM *To:* 'AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] needs landline once per day

On 4/2/20 3:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Longtime customer called to get VoIP phone service.  Says he only needs it to make one call per day and it has to be a “landline” because they won’t accept geolocation from his cellphone. Should I worry about why someone needs to call in once per day to

Re: [AFMUG] needs landline once per day

Well, a kind deed is a kind deed... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 4:23 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] needs landline once per day Longtime customer called to get VoIP phone service. Says he only needs it to make one call per day and it has to be

[AFMUG] needs landline once per day

Longtime customer called to get VoIP phone service. Says he only needs it to make one call per day and it has to be a "landline" because they won't accept geolocation from his cellphone. Should I worry about why someone needs to call in once per day to prove he's at home? -- AF mailing

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

It will be interesting to see what the well sounding units use for a ping. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 4:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update Submarine sonar ping? On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 4:51 PM wrote: Polyethylene has

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

Submarine sonar ping? On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 4:51 PM wrote: > Polyethylene has a sound velocity of propagation of a shear wave about 4x > the speed of sound in air. So we have to be careful not to couple any of > the strike into the actual pipe itself. That was a surprising discovery. > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

Polyethylene has a sound velocity of propagation of a shear wave about 4x the speed of sound in air. So we have to be careful not to couple any of the strike into the actual pipe itself. That was a surprising discovery. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 3:28 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

The propposal would take some time to be in effect, I guessing 18-24 months… so don’t be so quick with the trigger Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

I would think you would want a strike. Like taking the solenoid from a starter and using that to strike a metal disk. Disc would need appropriate waveguide to interface with conduit. On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 3:35 PM wrote: > I hear it hurts. > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, April 2,

Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

Each frequency band is different hardware for licensed radios. So 6 GHz is totally different from 11 GHz, etc. A split architecture radio might have a common modem, but the ODU will be different. The modem is probably operating at some baseband or IF frequency. But for all-outdoor

Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

I notice other licensed backhaul vendor radios are available in wide ranges of frequencies, like the Cambium PTP 820C in 6-38GHz range, do they just swap external antennas for best propagation characteristics, or do they also swap RF sections of the radios themselves? I guess the question

Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

This is for the proposed 1200 MHz FCC Chair Pai is pushing for in 6Ghz, so higher than 5.9, wouldn’t the antenna need to change for best transmission characteristics the further it pushes into 6, or will propagation models still be good with existing gear? > On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:55 PM, TJ

Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

Don’t confuse the 5850-5895 which is available now with a STA with the 6Ghz proposal that covers 6 to just over 7Ghz. The Cambium (and likely Ubiquiti) UNI-III 5.8 equipment will work in the STA frequencies. The 6Ghz proposal is well outside of the design frequencies for the UNI-III band

Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

cambium yes, ubnt yes but will they release a firmware update?? maybe in a few weeks? ugh. On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:50 PM Dev wrote: > Will existing Cambium/UBNT 5.8GHz equipment work if the 6GHz unlicensed > band opens up with a software upgrade in the field, or will new hardware be > needed.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

Ima gonna put up a fence between here and you... From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 2:42 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor I just found out this morning that my literal backyard neighbor has tested positive for Covid-19. He and his

[AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

Will existing Cambium/UBNT 5.8GHz equipment work if the 6GHz unlicensed band opens up with a software upgrade in the field, or will new hardware be needed. Question from Congress critter. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 5.9

We do have the firmware available and will make it available as you receive your STA. Thx Sakid From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 10:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 Is this a firmware option on EPMP does anyone

[AFMUG] OT Covid Neighbor

I just found out this morning that my literal backyard neighbor has tested positive for Covid-19. He and his wife tested positive, his parents who live the basement also tested positive, his mom of which is in the hospital. So. We are a bit freaked out. Fortunately we haven't had physical

Re: [AFMUG] 40Gbps+ Mikrotiks

I’ve got three in house, and was gearing up to connect some stuff across the city at 40Gbps. But then Covid hit and it got stalled. Then I made an engineering mistake on my network and accidentally mis-routed 100’s of customers to nowhere this morning. Now I’m in a corner crying. I’ll get back

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

I hear it hurts. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 2:33 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update Yeahminiature thunder. On 4/2/2020 4:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I vaguely remember something from about 30 years ago, where they were using focused

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

First I have to find the right energy to launch. I bought one of those well sounding units Bill has to see how they are doing essentially the same thing. While I want distance, I also want to see the reflections etc. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:59 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

Yeahminiature thunder. On 4/2/2020 4:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I vaguely remember something from about 30 years ago, where they were using focused ultrasound to break up kidney stones.  It looks like the technical term is focused ultrasound lithotripsy.  My recollection is they used a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

I vaguely remember something from about 30 years ago, where they were using focused ultrasound to break up kidney stones. It looks like the technical term is focused ultrasound lithotripsy. My recollection is they used a high voltage spark for the sound source. High voltage spark sounds like

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

Ahso you /want/ the echoes, but you don't want secondary sounds interfering with picking up the echoes. Big tuning fork?  Let it ring for 100ms and then stop the vibration.  The sound travels 34m in that 100ms, so your dead zone is about 100 ft.  You can probe 100ft with a rod though.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

Acoustical TDR for characterizing conduits. Best to know what it looks like before you try to blow something through it. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:44 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update What's this for anyway? Big sharp noise through a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project update

What's this for anyway? Big sharp noise through a pipe is what I believe you said you wanted.but what is the purpose? I suppose a gunshot sounds sharp in human terms, but it's really rapidly expanding gasses being released.  In hindsight it makes sense that there would be an initial

[AFMUG] Fw: OT Project update

Gunshots: From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:37 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: OT Project update Walther handgun will not fire power hammer loads. Does not seem to strike the rim at all. But a 1908 Savage rifle will. Seems gunshots are not a sharp impulse. Just a burst

[AFMUG] OT Project update

Walther handgun will not fire power hammer loads. Does not seem to strike the rim at all. But a 1908 Savage rifle will. Seems gunshots are not a sharp impulse. Just a burst of noise I have discovered. No where near a perfect impulse. So having fun and probably scaring people driving up the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Speed Tests

If you are using the QOS in the AP, I think the linktest will only use what is not already consumed by the SM. It's not intrusive like the FSK/450 test was. On an SM with no other traffic, I always see the linktest to be what the QOS is set to. I have just started upgrading sites to 4.4.3,

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Speed Tests

This has not been our experience. We do not rate-limit at the SM. We primarily rate-limit PPPoE at the core. We've found that our speedtest are usually 10-15% below the linktest results. On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:30 PM Steven Kenney wrote: > No example we'll get link tests at 80Mbps or higher

Re: [AFMUG] 40Gbps+ Mikrotiks

https://mikrotik.com/product/crs326_24s_2q_rm ?? On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 11:13 AM Steven Kenney wrote: > Anyone try the new 2Q switches? I saw one with 8+ SFP+ ports and some > QSFP+ Ports but it looks like they pulled it from its website. Only the 48 > port ethernet show now. > > With that being

Re: [AFMUG] 40Gbps+ Mikrotiks

https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=3=158149 On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 11:13 AM Steven Kenney wrote: > Anyone try the new 2Q switches? I saw one with 8+ SFP+ ports and some > QSFP+ Ports but it looks like they pulled it from its website. Only the 48 > port ethernet show now. > > With that

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Speed Tests

No example we'll get link tests at 80Mbps or higher and then their package is set to 25Mbps. We can see they are doing 20Mbps during the evenings etc. But when we go do a speed test anywhere it'll be 8 no matter what. I've confirmed the shaping of their connection is set to 100% to be sure.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Speed Tests

Linktest you mean? I've found it's 10% within TCP/UDP capacity. I'm exclusively 3.5.6 on epmp1000/2000 - no 4.x yet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 2:07 PM Steven Kenney wrote: > Anyone have issues with

[AFMUG] 40Gbps+ Mikrotiks

Anyone try the new 2Q switches? I saw one with 8+ SFP+ ports and some QSFP+ Ports but it looks like they pulled it from its website. Only the 48 port ethernet show now. With that being said if they are dipping into 40G now, how long before we see a new CCR with 40+? Anyone have an inside

[AFMUG] ePMP Speed Tests

Anyone have issues with certain model ePMP's not being able to get their speed tests? Even though their link tests are fine and more than capable, and we see customers traffic going much higher than the speed tests! It won't matter where we run the speed tests, they are always low. It only

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9

I received an invoice from the FCC. They were quick about that :-) Of course it showed up from someone whom I have never heard of in a word doc that claimed I owed money. I’ll admit my reply to that was a little on the rude side, but it was legit. Mark > On Apr 2, 2020, at 12:06 PM, TJ

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9

Not sure on turn around. I put an app in two days ago and have heard nothing On Thu, Apr 2, 2020, 8:46 AM Peter Kranz via AF wrote: > There is no filing fee for the form 601 emergency STA. > > > > Peter Kranz > www.UnwiredLtd.com > Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 > Mobile:

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9

There is no filing fee for the form 601 emergency STA. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2020 8:43 AM

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9

Any idea on turnaround time to grant or cost? On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 10:35 AM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > yes cambium said they had firmware for EPMP > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:28 AM Steve Jones > wrote: > >> Is this a firmware option on EPMP does anyone know? >> How much is the filing fee for

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9

yes cambium said they had firmware for EPMP On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:28 AM Steve Jones wrote: > Is this a firmware option on EPMP does anyone know? > How much is the filing fee for this? are we looking at 200 bucks or 2500 > bucks? > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:30 AM Sean Heskett wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9

Is this a firmware option on EPMP does anyone know? How much is the filing fee for this? are we looking at 200 bucks or 2500 bucks? On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:30 AM Sean Heskett wrote: > We are moving a couple APs to this new band and then using the “abandoned” > channel to widen other APs to 30

Re: [AFMUG] Porn for Chuck

Overkill imho. They could have done it with foil and a piece of wood and it would have worked the same. You don’t want any unwanted coupling from one cavity to the next but it doesn’t take much. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2020, at 7:43 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I was wondering why

Re: [AFMUG] Porn for Chuck

WOW think of the poor bastard who had to fine tune all those LOL! On 4/1/20 8:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Some serious filtering going on.  I counted 32 cavities.  8 per filter.  Might have needed so many due to using ceramic resonators rather than helical or quarter wave cavities.  They could