Re: [AFMUG] I miss

2020-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Business opportunity: telepresence tourism. I’m imagining a self-driving tour bus full of telepresence robots stopping at all the tourist destinations, and the robots get out and their humans back home in their VR headsets drive them around to sightsee. Eiffel Tower, Louvre, Arc de

Re: [AFMUG] I miss

2020-10-11 Thread Ryan Ray
Just get a VR headset and you can travel all over the world virtually! On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 6:58 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > > Not being able to travel. Watching Emily in Paris on Netflix. Been there > many times. Nice get away with my daughter that lives in England.. > someday this shall

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
I started at $1.80 at the pizza joint. After a month or two I got a raise to $2. I think all new employees got a quick performance review at which they either got a 10% raise or got fired. I had a summer job as a shipping clerk, I don’t remember what it paid. First job after graduation

[AFMUG] I miss

2020-10-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Not being able to travel. Watching Emily in Paris on Netflix. Been there many times. Nice get away with my daughter that lives in England.. someday this shall end. Damn. I sure as hell hope I can travel next fallX Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Still , a fortune. I was making $2.50/hr in those years. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Robert wrote: > >  I forgot to take all the taxes out of that for each summer. I netted more > like 4K for the summer.. > >> On 10/11/20 3:49 PM, Robert wrote: >> When I went to

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Robert
Oops that cost for this year UCSC was for the whole 3 quarters. So $40K/year according to UCSC.. https://financialaid.ucsc.edu/cost-to-attend/undergraduate-costs.html But I would be surprised to see a college age kid pulling down $30K per year. On 10/11/20 3:52 PM, Robert wrote: I forgot to

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Robert
I forgot to take all the taxes out of that for each summer.  I netted more like 4K for the summer.. On 10/11/20 3:49 PM, Robert wrote: When I went to UCSC one quarter all up cost about $1.7K in 1975  This year, just the tuition, room and board and mandatory health insurance is going to cost

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Robert
When I went to UCSC one quarter all up cost about $1.7K in 1975 This year, just the tuition, room and board and mandatory health insurance is going to cost you $36K _california resident_   I was able to work for $9.40/hour at a gas station as a jr manager, opening and closing during the

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Robert
I separate the eras to pre-Reagan and post.   When taxes on the Wealthy were high there was a lot of equality of income. Post-Reagan and concentration of wealth moved to the top of the scale pretty quickly.   Wages from the upper-middle on down pretty much stagnated outside of tech.   We don't

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread chuck
Pell grants paid for my tuition. I had a part time job and got some loans. Maybe $30K loans for 4 years. Not oppressive as I recall. Loans pretty much covered rent and food. Part time job was for spending money. I was married with 2 kids when I started and 4 when I left. This was mid

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Prince
It's because subsidies and pell grants have almost evaporated and college tuition costs have gone through the roof. These days, it's not unusual to see student loans well into 6 figures. A real go-getter can still probably generate a hand full of scholarships,

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Here's one I don't understand. Not pointing a finger, I genuinely don't understand. Student loan debt. Is that the huge issue that people say? And if so, is that a new phenomenon? Why? I assume my dad went to college on the GI Bill after WWII. I worked 20 hours a week all through college

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread chuck
There was a period of time in the 70s as I recall that you could get hired on the assy line in Detroit and pretty quickly make your way to a job paying $25/hour. I am sure that is equivalent to double or triple that today. And that was right out of high school. Of course you had to be a

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Prince
Yah. Even though I'm a boomer, I think attributing the current state of the economy entirely on boomers is missing the mark somewhat. There are a whole raft of issues that are squeezing millenials like globalization and extreme automation. You keep adding

Re: [AFMUG] OT: external keyboards and mice

2020-10-11 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, it really isn't that hard to find Bluetooth mice, but in experience, it's true that they don't work as well as the proprietary stuff... Which is probably why those are more common. On Sun, Oct 11, 2020, 1:13 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Maybe in-store, but without even going to amazon.com or

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Obviously I'm prejudiced, but I don't think this whole trope about all the problems young people today face being the fault of the baby boomers (and wishing they would die and stop hogging all the good jobs) is quite accurate. Yes we had a long recession starting in 2008 (but of course there

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Cameron Crum
My wife loves old movies. Half the time our TV is on TCM and we are watching some old BW movie from the 30s or 40s and it's been that way since our kids were born. My daughter asked me one day when she was little, how old I was when the world got color. I was confused at first about the question,

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
World being black and white reminded me of a movie, at first I thought it was Blast from the Past, but then realized I was thinking of Pleasantville. And of course there's Wizard of Oz. I actually saw that dozens of times before realizing Kansas was in B and Oz was in color. From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT: external keyboards and mice

2020-10-11 Thread Matt Hoppes
I’ve never had an issue with my MX Bluetooth mice. Every one of my staff has a mouse on their desk, even though they all have laptops. I personally just use the trackpad, but I’ll admit a mouse is easier to use. > On Oct 11, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > Maybe in-store, but

Re: [AFMUG] OT: external keyboards and mice

2020-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe in-store, but without even going to amazon.com or bestbuy.com, if I search staples.com for Bluetooth mouse there are tons for free delivery Oct. 13. Let’s face it, how many people walk into a store these days looking for a mouse, Bluetooth or not? Remember when we used to give out

Re: [AFMUG] OT: external keyboards and mice

2020-10-11 Thread Ryan Ray
It's the wireless protocol. Bluetooth doesn't do very good with latency which is why you'll see lots of weird blips with a mouse. Logitech developing a custom protocol helps them prioritize latency over anything else so your mouse is super smooth. On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 9:37 AM Matt Hoppes <

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread chuck
My poor kids are all millenials. They are pretty typical too. They all know my “advice and history” speeches by heart. I drilled the need for education into them. I came from a poor dry land dirt farm background. Farm house and out buildings did not have paint on them. Toilet was out

Re: [AFMUG] fun size Paydays

2020-10-11 Thread chuck
We had fantastic school lunches. 25 cents. I loved them all. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 10:36 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fun size Paydays My Mom made lunch for me too. I don't remember what she put in it. But we also had a cheap school lunch program,

Re: [AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread Robert
very apropos... On 10/11/20 10:04 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/millennial-millions/3867395 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] OT good to be a boomer

2020-10-11 Thread chuck
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/millennial-millions/3867395-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] fun size Paydays

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Prince
My Mom made lunch for me too. I don't remember what she put in it. But we also had a cheap school lunch program, so often I would get whatever was in the school lunch because my Mom also worked outside the home, and sometimes making lunch didn't make the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: external keyboards and mice

2020-10-11 Thread Matt Hoppes
Yes. BT mice are very hard to find. > On Oct 11, 2020, at 12:34 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > >  > do you ever shop on the internet? > >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 8:56 AM Matt Hoppes >> wrote: >> We have this cool protocol built into pretty much every laptop, new desktop >> and mobile devices

Re: [AFMUG] OT: external keyboards and mice

2020-10-11 Thread TJ Trout
do you ever shop on the internet? On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 8:56 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > We have this cool protocol built into pretty much every laptop, new > desktop and mobile devices called BlueTooth. > > Why does every keyboard and mouse manufacturer see

Re: [AFMUG] OT: external keyboards and mice

2020-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe it's the Microsoft Bluetooth Mobile Mouse 3600 I use from time to time, but I have extreme problems with the mouse becoming jerky if my laptop is on 2.4 GHz WiFi. I think I've seen this before too, since Bluetooth uses 2.4 GHz, it doesn't seem to coexist well with WiFi. You'd think the

[AFMUG] OT: external keyboards and mice

2020-10-11 Thread Matt Hoppes
We have this cool protocol built into pretty much every laptop, new desktop and mobile devices called BlueTooth. Why does every keyboard and mouse manufacturer see fit to make their device only work with their proprietary wireless dongle? You used to be able to find Bluetooth mice. Lately in

Re: [AFMUG] fun size Paydays

2020-10-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I go through a similar treatment for a variety of outdoor allergens I have. It really does seem to make a difference, though it wasn't essential, so COVID kind of threw that program off for six months. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The

Re: [AFMUG] fun size Paydays

2020-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
When I was in school (K-12), my mom would send me with a brown bag lunch every day, usually a peanut butter sandwich. She had all these variations to convince me it wasn’t the same thing all the time. PB on white, PB on wheat, PB and jelly, PB and lettuce, even PB and butter. I don’t think

Re: [AFMUG] fun size Paydays

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Prince
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/growth-curve/babies-peanuts-allergy-guidelines bp On 10/11/2020 6:07 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I've also heard that there's an increasing amount of evidence

Re: [AFMUG] fun size Paydays

2020-10-11 Thread Bill Prince
That's been pretty well established, although it's still somewhat "theory". That said, I've read that there are programs to reduce peanut intolerance through a medically monitored slow introduction of peanuts into their diet. It has worked. There was an

Re: [AFMUG] fun size Paydays

2020-10-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I've also heard that there's an increasing amount of evidence that many peanut allergy sufferers are allergic because they didn't have enough peanuts as a child. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message

Re: [AFMUG] fun size Paydays

2020-10-11 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I was reading that the best way to build up a tolerance to a peanut allergy is to eat a very tiny amount daily and build up over time. They have to be eaten every day to maintain tolerance or you can go back to the beginning. In this way, if someone accidentally ingests something with nuts, the

Re: [AFMUG] fun size Paydays

2020-10-11 Thread Adam Moffett
I don't know if it's worth fussing over the peanut allergies like we sometimes do.  If the kid gets anaphylactic they better learn to read the package.  If they're so allergic they can't be in the same room with a peanut then in the long run they're just screwed. My son has a shellfish

Re: [AFMUG] Backup Solutions

2020-10-11 Thread Mike Hammett
It's mostly a software problem. You'll need some kind of software (such as Veam) to connect to your hosts, snapshot them, then copy the snapshot off to somewhere else. Proxmox, as a hypervisor, makes this stupid easy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest