Keywords are “open and defiant” use for adverse possession, different states
have various lengths until you can legally take possession.
BTW, we live off grid in the woods, built everything ourselves (roads, water,
septic, power, and uh, internet), love it. Definitely not for everyone. You
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> I think the only way you can get land that way in Utah is if you had presumed
&
t;> and case law may be different in various states so check on that with
>>> someone who is qualified on the topic. In NY Licensed surveyors have a
>>> limited right to practice law in land issues for cases like this. My
>>> brother always said that was the hardest part of
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I think the only way you can get land that way in Utah is if you had presumed
you owned it and the county tax assessor did too. I think you have had to use
it for 19 years and all the while being open and notorious. Here is
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> I think those are called land locked or
for an
uninterrupted period of time.
From: Adam Moffett
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That's adverse possession. You have to invest several years of your life into
that. Live there openly with nobody stopping you for years, and apparently
that was the hardest part of his surveyors license to
>> get through. He spent a lot of time studying and reviewing case law.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Brian Webster
>> > www.wirelessmapping.com
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>> >
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> I think those are called land locked or something similar.
Unless and
> until an owner (or
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his surveyors license to
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> >
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> > Brian Webster
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I think those are called land locked or something similar. Unless and
until an owner (or prospective owner) can
NY Licensed surveyors have a
>>> limited right to practice law in land issues for cases like this. My
>>> brother always said that was the hardest part of his surveyors license to
>>> get through. He spent a lot of time studying and reviewing case law.
>>>
>>> Thank y
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I think those are called land locked or something similar. Unless and
until an owner (or prospective owner) can buy deeded access, it would be
worthless
id that was the
> hardest part of his surveyors license to get through. He spent a lot of time
> studying and reviewing case law.
>
> Thank you,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
>
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I think those are called land locked or something similar. Unless and
until an owner (or prospective owner) can
I think those are called land locked or something similar. Unless and
until an owner (or prospective owner) can buy deeded access, it would be
worthless to anyone except perhaps a helicopter pilot.
bp
On 1/3/2021 4:23 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
The absolute cheapest land seems to have no
The absolute cheapest land seems to have no deeded access at all. I'm
not sure who would ever buy those lotsbut someone is selling it so
therefore they bought it at one time.
On 1/3/2021 6:04 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
I can add another thing. We live on a quarter section that was divided
, it would probably be the beer drinking
redneck, right? (That is mean, I am sure there are gun toting
liberals that imbibe too, but the news never features those guys).
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It's a non-exclusive easement for a whole list of things including who
is responsible for maintenance, and so on. It's not really private as we
own the dominant tena
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I can add another thing. We live on a quarter section that was divided
into 4 approximately 40 acre parcels. Most of the land is not really
"buildable" except for a dozen or so acres on the ridge top. They carved
up the parcels to give everyone close to the s
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land
>>
>> A good title insurance policy should dig up and disclose all the gotchas.
>>
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>> > On Jan 3, 2021, at 9:19
Prince
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I can add another thing. We live on a quarter section that was divided
into 4 approximately 40 acre parcels. Most of the land is not really
"buildable" except for a dozen or so acres on
M
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Cc: Chuck McCown
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land
>
> A good title insurance policy should dig up and disclose all the gotchas.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 3, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >
> &
I can add another thing. We live on a quarter section that was divided
into 4 approximately 40 acre parcels. Most of the land is not really
"buildable" except for a dozen or so acres on the ridge top. They carved
up the parcels to give everyone close to the same amount of ridge top
space, and
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A good title insurance policy should dig up and disclose a
> Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 2:59 PM
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> Cc: Chuck McCown
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land
>
> A good title insurance policy should dig up and disclose all the gotchas.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jan 3, 2021, at
PM
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Cc: Chuck McCown
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A good title insurance policy should dig up and disclose all the gotchas.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 3, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Depending on the terrain, see if you can get your hands
Please tell me you don't want this land so you can go there with your RV and
hunt for lizard people.
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A good title insurance policy should dig up and disclose all the gotchas.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 3, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Depending on the terrain, see if you can get your hands on a parcel map and
> any benchmarks. Property boundaries can be an issue. If you can't
: [AFMUG] OT: Buying land
Well and septic are optional for me, but yeah they matter for resale.
On 1/3/2021 8:25 AM, David Coudron wrote:
If you think you will be going off grid or something similar it might not
matter. However, it still might make sense that you can get a well
Depending on the terrain, see if you can get your hands on a parcel map
and any benchmarks. Property boundaries can be an issue. If you can't do
that, get a title insurance policy that insures you against any future
boundary disputes. if there is a time limit in the insurance policy,
make sure
, 2021 6:27 AM
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Thankfully, I love bullets.
On 1/3/2021 4:48 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
If you can tolerate all 4 seasons in a day and an occasional bird
size mosquito Arkansas is the place to go. Just make sure to not
buy
had an old quanset we converted and we had access to a lot of lumber
at the others.
Regards,
David Coudron
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Thankfully, I love bullets.
On 1/3/2021 4:48 AM, Steve
Doesn't sound like you are looking anywhere that would have been industrial
or commercial but if you were, the EPA doesn't care who was responsible for
dumping hazardous waste, the current owner assumes liability for it.
I think wetlands are only an issue if you want to modify that part of your
Good thoughts, thanks.
On 1/3/2021 1:20 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
Sources of water or water rights for the property. Here they don’t let you
build a cabin without it.
Taxes. Not sure about your state, but here “greenbelt” (grazed on/agricultural)
land gets substantially lower tax rates.
Thankfully, I love bullets.
On 1/3/2021 4:48 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
If you can tolerate all 4 seasons in a day and an occasional bird size
mosquito Arkansas is the place to go. Just make sure to not buy
anything next to me if you dont like bullets
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 12:21 AM Cassidy B.
If you can tolerate all 4 seasons in a day and an occasional bird size
mosquito Arkansas is the place to go. Just make sure to not buy anything
next to me if you dont like bullets
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021, 12:21 AM Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
> Sources of water or water rights for the property. Here
Access to power, you might want it in the future if not now. Future
development plans.. mineral rights...
On 1/2/21 10:20 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
Sources of water or water rights for the property. Here they don’t let you
build a cabin without it.
Taxes. Not sure about your state,
Sources of water or water rights for the property. Here they don’t let you
build a cabin without it.
Taxes. Not sure about your state, but here “greenbelt” (grazed on/agricultural)
land gets substantially lower tax rates. Make friends with a live stock owner
near your property to have them
I'm poking around Zillow for a piece of cheap land.
Basically looking for some place to play around in the woods, with the
possibility of building an off-grid camp/cabin in the future.
The pitfalls I'm aware of are wetlands and places with no access. What
else should I watch out for?'
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