Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 12:33:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic Purely for curiosity what if you want to lease a span that requires Rege

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-07 Thread TJ Trout
so that > $700 floor really is like a 1k floor > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Sunday, May 05, 2024 5:22 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic > > > > $700 seems to be Zayo's floor. > > >

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-06 Thread Dan P via AF
Not to mention Zayo has a way of adding on tons of random fees so that $700 floor really is like a 1k floor From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2024 5:22 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic $700 seems to be Zayo's floor

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-06 Thread dmmoffett
McCown via AF Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2024 7:03 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic I remember the first IRU I got quoted. It amounted to a figure equal to building it ourselves. My first time hearing the term IRU too

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic We pay $700 per month for a pair of dark fiber about 6km route from our data center to one of our sites both in downtown Atlanta from zayo. We run 40gbps 10km optics. On Fri, May 3, 2024, 11:04 PM Chris Fabien < ch...@lakenetmi.com > wrote: We h

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
Users Group" Cc: chuck@go-mtc.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic I remember the first IRU I got quoted.? It amounted to a figure equal to building it ourselves.? My first time hearing the term IRU too.? That was probably 25 years ago.? ? From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 5

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-05 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
ieve there’s a ceiling. From: AF On Behalf Of Zach Underwood Sent: Friday, May 03, 2024 11:28 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic We pay $700 per month for a pair of dark fiber about 6km route from our data center to one of our sites both in down

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-05 Thread dmmoffett
’s a ceiling. From: AF On Behalf Of Zach Underwood Sent: Friday, May 03, 2024 11:28 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic We pay $700 per month for a pair of dark fiber about 6km route from our data center to one of our sites both in downtown Atlanta from

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-03 Thread Zach Underwood
We pay $700 per month for a pair of dark fiber about 6km route from our data center to one of our sites both in downtown Atlanta from zayo. We run 40gbps 10km optics. On Fri, May 3, 2024, 11:04 PM Chris Fabien wrote: > We have seen an extremely wide range of prices for dark fiber leases, > it's

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-03 Thread Chris Fabien
We have seen an extremely wide range of prices for dark fiber leases, it's one of these things where every situation and provider is different. I have been quoted prices over $100/mo per strand-mile and as low as $15/mo/strand-mile. A lot of the value seems to be what they suspect you're going to

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-03 Thread Darin Steffl
For those of you who have dark fiber access, what kind of costs do you have? I'm thinking more of the cost to access these strands? IRU costs, lease, swaps with other providers, etc? I want some sort of ballpark costs to know what's reasonable when we start looking at this over wavelengths for

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-02 Thread Chris Fabien
Mark, we do exactly this on a segment where we have leased 2 strands of dark fiber on a 30mile path. The ends of the run have 8-ch DWDM Muxes and we have two spots along the run where we have an OADM in a splice case to drop out a wavelength. At those points, we set a handhole next to the

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-02 Thread fiberrun--- via AF
You can also do BiDi CWDM/DWDM if you have the optical budget. This way your two strands become two independent loops. Of note is that you can also run both CWDM and DWDM concurrently. Jared > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2024 > From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF" > To: "'AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-02 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Yes, you can do exactly that. Makes it easy to use a single or pair of strands in a large variety of ways. Love WDM. -Original Message- From: Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:26 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: Mark - Myakka Technologies

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-02 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Optical Add/Drop multiplexer (OADM) is what you want. Here’s a CWDM version. https://www.fs.com/products/70425.html You can have it peel off a couple of frequencies at each vault, and let everything else pass thru unmolested. > On May 2, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF