Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

This is a bit unsettling. I'm looking some Navigator links. The price/performance seems pretty good IMO, and the single radio sparing is a big plus. I remember Nathan from Wisper swearing off Bridgewave because of some random issues with links as well. On Thursday, February 7, 2019, Seth Mattinen

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Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

I really don't know anyone that I can recall singing the praises of Bridgewave except for Daniel - while he worked for them. I have had bad experiences myself and I know a handful of others in a similar boat. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 8:05

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

On 2/8/19 7:51 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I dunno. I've looked at Bridgewave a few times, and I always walked away because of the price of entry. We always found a way to solve the problem at a lower cost. When I bought these links Siklu wasn't shipping their answer for 10Gbps mmwave. -- AF

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

Did Clearwire do all the damage to those companies through the massive ramp-up of orders and then abruptly stopping the purchasing, or is there something else that I'm missing? On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 10:15 AM Daniel White wrote: > That was a very different BridgeWave though. Pre-Siklu having

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Wireless Support

We have found the complete opposite. We have 10 Exalt Extreme Air 11 and 18GHz XPIC links and they have been trouble free. Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:19 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

I got laid off at the end of 2012 as the company took a round of funding with the condition to lay off 25% of the workforce... a few days before Christmas. I was upset at the time, but in hindsight it was the right time to move on. Logo Daniel White Co-Founder -

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

On 2/8/19 12:51 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: This is a bit unsettling. I'm looking some Navigator links. The price/performance seems pretty good IMO, and the single radio sparing is a big plus. I remember Nathan from Wisper swearing off Bridgewave because of some random issues with links as well.

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

That was a very different BridgeWave though. Pre-Siklu having 80GHz products. They were sold to REMEC which was then sold to Moseley.  There is only one person left there that I worked with, who is a sales guy on the East Coast (Jim Norton). Sprint/Clearwire did a lot of damage to

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

I agree with that statement. We got a PCN from Comsearch with 255 links on it (from Clearwire), and 18 of them were at one of our towers. Wha?!? I talked to the tower manager, and he told me they would have to be doing major construction in order to accommodate the build out. In the end, they

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

Isn't that the real skill in business. Knowing when to hold 'em vs knowing when to fold 'em... On 2/8/19 8:21 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Dragonwave kinda killed itself with a massive expansion based on the expectation of the boom continuing.  They should have just banked the cash. *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

Yes, and by pushing those companies to pour R resources into products that were specific to them and never got bought. Logo Daniel White Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 email:dwh...@atheral.com 3172

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Wireless Support

Don't the Exalt ExtremeAir have built-in XPIC with 2 radios? I would expect that to work well; I did some work with the single-polarity Exalt ExploreAir where some ethernet-type cables were used to wire the separate radios together to do XPIC and that didn't work reliably. If you need a spare

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

Clearwire was such a screw-over in oh so many ways. What they did to Intel was legendary.. Talk about getting everyone to drink the Kool-aid... On 2/8/19 8:38 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I agree with that statement. We got a PCN from Comsearch with 255 links on it (from Clearwire), and 18 of

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

I dunno. I've looked at Bridgewave a few times, and I always walked away because of the price of entry. We always found a way to solve the problem at a lower cost. Maybe that's why Dan isn't there anymore? -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 7:33 AM wrote: > I really

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

Dragonwave kinda killed itself with a massive expansion based on the expectation of the boom continuing. They should have just banked the cash. From: Colin Stanners Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 9:18 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Wireless Support

What is the most throughput you can get out of a single 11ghz dish and how? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] HDTV antenna

Anxious for the full report. I would give you odds that the streaming content, if any of it is brand name, is not legit. But still, if the price is right, buy it and use it until they get busted. Unless they do a directv/dish type of thing and reach out to folks that bought cracked boxes.

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Used 450D SMs

[https://image.ibb.co/ctQ7jU/aeronet-logo.png] [https://i.ibb.co/52CYbSB/gigabit1-alone.png] 450B for the 5.1 band From: AF on behalf of Matt Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Friday, February 8, 2019 at 4:09 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Wireless Support

You'd need two 11Ghz combiners to combine each of the AF11 polarities from the radios to the antenna... I'm not sure if you'd need to have high/low-pass filters as well, depends how good those radios are at filtering powerful out-of-channel noise. With the Bridgewave example those would be full

Re: [AFMUG] HDTV antenna

Right He ordered one for me...I will get information on it to you ..my brother is not generous on information... On Thu, Feb 7, 2019, 9:28 AM No monthly fees, right? > > *From:* Cameron Crum > *Sent:* Thursday, February 7, 2019 8:59 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

I keep hoping someone here will drink the Bridgewave Navigator kool-aid and report back but no one has. I’m about to pull the trigger, except I can’t get Streakwave (not a usual vendor of mine but one of two companies Jim Norton at Bridgewave said are stocking distributors) to take an order.

[AFMUG] 450M POE

I know we have covered this a few times. Will the TP-DCDC-4856G-VHP power the 450M. In other locations I'm running a DC-DC converter and then running it through one of Chucks APC style injectors but I'd prefer an all in one for this location.

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Wireless Support

Yep, it is a kludge thought. -Original Message- From: Matt Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 1:13 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Wireless Support Is it possible to do dual radios on one antenna with the AirFiber11 to double throughput?

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450M POE

I would not recommend that PSU as the 5 GHz 450m can consume up to about 80W of peak power (though nomially consumes ~70W). I would hate for it to be working, then cut out or reset due to some traffic condition exceeding the capability of a 70W rated supply. Matt From: AF On Behalf Of Carl

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Wireless Support

Depends on channel numbers and size. With dual-polarity/XPIC and 4x carriers (2 on each polarity), at full 2048QAM the Bridgewave Navigator can do 2.5Gbps each direction. On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:17 PM Matt wrote: > What is the most throughput you can get out of a single 11ghz dish and how? >

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] 450M POE

Thanks Matt, I knew there was a reason I didn't use it before. Getting old. On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 2:52 PM Matt Mangriotis via AF wrote: > I would not recommend that PSU as the 5 GHz 450m can consume up to about > 80W of peak power (though nomially consumes ~70W). > > > > I would hate for it

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

I'm a bit unhappy with the SIAE link that I have in place. While it has been pretty solid once I got it up and running, the initial process had some issues. Then I lost a radio due to a power surge (which I didn't think should have caused a failure - nothing else on the tower died) and the

Re: [AFMUG] HDTV antenna

BSC On Thu, Feb 7, 2019, 9:00 AM Cameron Crum Brand/source? > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 9:50 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> My brother got this system and has tons of channels...all the local >> digital ones of traditional broadcasters but a ton of others called IP plus >> three digit station

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Wireless Support

You can put as many radios as you want on an antenna subject to bandwidth limits of the antenna and everyone getting along frequency wise. This shows the circulator/filter method. There is a hybrid combiner method too but I think you lose more signal with that method. From: Colin Stanners

Re: [AFMUG] FS: Used 450D SMs

Just curious why you are getting rid of them and what you have replaced them with? On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 5:53 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > > > > > 10 unit lots – Used, working 450D SMs $1500 > > > > Send Email| Call Now

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Wireless Support

Is it possible to do dual radios on one antenna with the AirFiber11 to double throughput? >>dual-polarity/XPIC and 4x carriers (2 on each polarity) With the Bridgewave, does that mean you are transmitting on two 40mhz carriers on each polarity or two 80mhz carriers or each polarity? On Fri, Feb

Re: [AFMUG] 450M POE

Netonix do a 80W POE. NPOE-54V-80W Would that work? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 12:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] 450M POE I know we have covered this a few times. Will the

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Packetflux

just give me your credit card info I dont charge markup On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 3:42 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I can beat that. I'll do it for 50% markup. > > -- > bp > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 7:20 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > >> I can resell to you. Only a modest 25%

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Digital Cameras

Out of curiosity have you just tried an SD card of a high class like 10 that has better read/write speeds. In an Android phone you would be surprised at the performance difference from a class for to a class 10 chip. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com

Re: [AFMUG] Why hasn't there been a radio-antenna waveguide standard?

So on the why... a few things I can add: * Many manufacturers believed their direct connect interface was special, or proprietary... and would not openly provide specifications (I seem to recall a former employer zealous lawyers threatening to sue someone on this list... :-) * There

Re: [AFMUG] Why hasn't there been a radio-antenna waveguide standard?

I can backup the third bullet point as I saw it from an antenna vendor’s viewpoint. The radios vendors forbid the antenna vendor from selling the interface plate. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 8, 2019, at 6:55 PM, Daniel White wrote: > > So on the why... a few things I can add: > Many

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

There are people here who have the units deployed. I believe Rory has a link. Josh On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 2:35 PM David Sovereen wrote: > I keep hoping someone here will drink the Bridgewave Navigator kool-aid > and report back but no one has. I’m about to pull the trigger, except I > can’t

Re: [AFMUG] Why hasn't there been a radio-antenna waveguide standard?

On rectangular waveguide, almost everyone conforms to the inside dimensions of the waveguide for the frequency. However for some frequencies there are up to three different waveguide sizes that will work. Lots of overlap in the bandwidths of wavelengths. But for dual pol antennas, the feeds

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

For what it's worth, we've had two Bridgewave FL4G-LITE 80ghz links running for about a year with no issues. On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 3:36 PM Josh Baird wrote: > There are people here who have the units deployed. I believe Rory has a > link. > > Josh > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 2:35 PM David

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Wireless Support

The circulator/filter method is used with virtually every 2+0 or more indoor radio setup. Combiners are used for outdoor models such as those we have been discussing here and a typical loss per side is about 3.6 dB or 7.2 dB on the path. This shouldn’t be overlooked when designing high

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Digital Cameras

I don't really consider the Powershot cameras "point and shoot". My SO had a regular point-and-shoot Canon that she liked except that it ate batteries like candy. Then I got a real simple Panasonic that I really liked because I didn't have to think about nearly anything. So she replaced her

Re: [AFMUG] Tool Safety

id like to see policy/training on this too? ladder safety also (this got us bad) On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 9:45 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > What do you guys use regarding safety training over hand tools? > > Mostly giving someone a hard time for an accident, but partially seeing if > there's

Re: [AFMUG] Over 485, 000 Ubiquiti devices vulnerable to new attack | ZDNet

turns out there were 5 old customer air routers still on network we missed. They got hit (props to shadowserver) but looking at it is weird, the old AC2 server i never got around to shutting off still had one of them in it. the malware hit it, dropped the firmware down to one version, then down to

Re: [AFMUG] Tool Safety

I had a guy have is ladder slide sideways because he did not bungee to gutter spikes. Fell and broke his ankle really bad. Healed up mostly, went to visit a girl in Guatemala. On his way back he was late and tried to do an O.J Simpson through the airport. Re-injured the leg. Went to the

[AFMUG] Why hasn't there been a radio-antenna waveguide standard?

Probably more a question for Chuck then anyone else. There's (ignoring frequency-related size) at least a dozen waveguide connector standards to interface radios with antennas... when buying a licensed backhaul radio, pretty much every physical

[AFMUG] OT: Digital Cameras

I'm Looking for a new point and shoot camera. I've been using the Canon Powershot SX40, which I really like, and had survived many a tower climb in a bucket. The problem is that it takes too long between each picture to write it to the SD Card. It takes 2-3 seconds between pictures to store

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Packetflux

You guys are great. Order was placed with Forrest but I’ll keep you in mind for next time. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 Office 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com > On Feb 8, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Wireless Support

At the higher frequencies, like 11 GHz, circulators and filters are small enough you can cobble together an outdoor only system. I cannot over emphasize that Tim said about losses. 3.6 dB adds directly to the noise figure and that is the holy grail of SNR and receiver sensitivity. From:

Re: [AFMUG] Why hasn't there been a radio-antenna waveguide standard?

To add to what Chuck said - The manufacturers don’t make the antenna’s specific to the various manufacturers other than adding an adapter plate. You can remove the radio mount from a Andrew / Commscope antenna and replace it with the adapter kit for the radio brand. The adapter kits can

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Illinois Taxes

Ecuador...good place to get yourself murdered. On 2/6/2019 9:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Ecuador.  National health care.  Nice climate.  Good food.  Low cost housekeepers. *From:* Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2019 7:33 PM *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Illinois Taxes

but it would be warm.. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 4:55 PM Jerry Head wrote: > Ecuador...good place to get yourself murdered. > > > On 2/6/2019 9:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Ecuador. National health care. Nice climate. Good food. Low cost > housekeepers. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Why hasn't there been a radio-antenna waveguide standard?

Plus antenna vendors wanted to sell antennas & not adapters. We ended up buying new radios from a radio vendor in order to avoid swapping antennas. We wouldn't have necessarily picked the radio(s) we did if we could have upgraded the link with a simple radio+adapter. -- bp

Re: [AFMUG] Why hasn't there been a radio-antenna waveguide standard?

Right.  My point was more to why you had to by the antenna from the radio distributor instead of buying from just say a Commscope distributor (or RFS or Radiowaves or...). Logo Daniel White Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations phone: +1 (702) 470-2770

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Packetflux

Sadly, some of their offers were remarkably similar to the demands of various distributors in order for them to carry our products. On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 3:08 PM wrote: > You guys are great. Order was placed with Forrest but I’ll keep you in > mind for next time. > > > > Jason Wilson >

Re: [AFMUG] 450M POE

Just curious, if you have a power source compatible with the tyco converter (36-72V in), why are you bothering with a DC-DC converter at all? The 450M is fine with pretty much any polarity of 48V. On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 1:07 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > > I know we have covered this a few times.