Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

I thought it was the opposite and they were in production but there is such a huge influx of new requests that it will be forever to get grants because each has to be looked at by a human On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:49 PM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Very useful but is anyone even operational on 5.9

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

Very useful but is anyone even operational on 5.9 today? It appears the STA's never got granted from what I read in some other threads on here. I was told the FCC backed out of issuing the STA's because of some resistance by some group. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:11 PM Dev wrote: > Talking to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

It appears that the urban legend about urine being sterile has its roots in the 1950s, Hilt says, when epidemiologist Edward Kass was looking for a way to screen patients for urinary tract infections before surgery. Kass developed

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

We used to have an old school ER doc that still tasted urine for sweet to check for diabetes. I think he did it more to freak us out than as a true diagnostic On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 8:17 PM Robert wrote: > Nope it's not, common error... > > On 4/13/20 4:47 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I don't

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why there's a TP shortage

Yeah when that came out, it was like oh, we have no idea what all the meshed gears we just threw washers into... On 4/13/20 4:58 PM, Bill Prince wrote: This was a fun read. https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0 -- AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

Nope it's not, common error... On 4/13/20 4:47 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I don't think you'd get covid from peeing in a common area as long as you're not doing all at the same time. Isn't urine supposed to be sterile? bp On 4/13/2020 11:37 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Building code in this

[AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

Talking to Congress folks/WISPA about pushing to see if we could get an extension on the 60 day 5.9 spectrum to something more like 6-12 months, there seems to be an interest in raising the issue to FCC commissioners. Both Senator/WISPA folks want to judge how much interest there would be from

[AFMUG] OT: Why there's a TP shortage

This was a fun read. https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0 -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

I don't think you'd get covid from peeing in a common area as long as you're not doing all at the same time. Isn't urine supposed to be sterile? bp On 4/13/2020 11:37 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Building code in this locality

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

Every time I clean them with the recirculating acid solution they immediately start leaking. I quit cleaning them. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 5:37 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID Yeah, you can clean them every year to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

Yeah, you can clean them every year to help lengthen that time. We have hard water as well so I put in a water softener. I like it better anyway and I don't have to worry about that problem. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 4:18 PM wrote: > I have two large gas tankless that serve different bathrooms

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

That sounds like the Rheem unit I saw on homedepot.com. From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 4:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID We have the little electric tankless at our shop. Works fine for the shop sink, and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

For a house, yes I would install the gas ones. Way back around 1965-1967 my family lived in Buenos Aires and the house we rented had the gas ones on the wall in each room that needed hot water. Pretty neat, you’d turn on the faucet and instantly the gas flame would come on, and you’d have

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

I have two large gas tankless that serve different bathrooms and areas of the house. Love them. But their heat exchangers will start leaking after 5 years or so on our hard water. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 2:48 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

My plumber says the large electric tankless aren't worth having. I have 2 gas units in series at my house. They work together to sense demand and fire up when needed. We have the little tankless ones (3) at my shop and they work well. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 3:46 PM wrote: > On the smaller

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

On the smaller units, if you want hotter water your turn down the flow. From: Colin Stanners Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 2:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID I was looking into tankless water heaters for some personal projects... electricity

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

Well, if you're just going to your spot out back, there aren't doorknobs, etc. to touch... might actually be more sanitary. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:38 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Building code in this locality requires a toilet in any work place. Like > an unmanned storage building doesn't need

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

120 volts 30 amps $153 Only needs 10 gauge wire. https://www.zoro.com/bosch-electric-tankless-water-heater-110120v-us3/i/G2958252/#specifications You can do it Steve. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 1:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: More

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

I put one in on bathroom sink at a central office once that was the smallest one I have ever seen. 240 volts 15 amps. https://www.zoro.com/bosch-electric-tankless-water-heater-208240v-us9/i/G2203381/ $145 40 amps. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 1:24 PM To: 'AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

Home Depot lists Rheem units under $300 but requires a pretty hefty circuit. I see some smaller ones at Zoro that would probably still be adequate for a single sink. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 2:18 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject:

[AFMUG] OT Giving thanks

for TSLA... (if I say more I am afraid I may jinx myself)-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

They are cheap and easy. The electric ones. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:59 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID When this is all over, maybe consider a point-of-use on-demand hot water heater for the garage sink. The rest of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

Depending on the size of the space and how air tight it is you might be able to use one of these to get hot water there at least for now. I’ve used a similar one in my pole shed for a couple of years now. Only trouble is if it gets below freezing and you don’t drain it well, it can freeze up.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

When this is all over, maybe consider a point-of-use on-demand hot water heater for the garage sink. The rest of the world has used them forever, not sure why they have only recently become popular here. Even just for washing the bird poop off reclaimed radios, a little hot water helps.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

Building code in this locality requires a toilet in any work place.  Like an unmanned storage building doesn't need a bathroom, but if you added a workshop suddenly you did.  Not sure how to square that with the current situation.  If you gave me a "no restroom use" rule I'd probably go pee

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

Thats what I mean by lysol stocked, it will be sprayed down. Recovered equipment will be placed in quarantine. I dont even know if we can legally shut down the bathroom, but the purpose is to get the guys in and then out the door, poop at home, come to work, grab gear, grab van and go. We dont

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

The one study I read about they did samples in a CV19 patient room & documented all the places they found the virus. They did note that they were testing for the RNA sequences, so they don't know if the particles were viable or not. That said, when they tested

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

I learned a long time ago to show a “compliant attitude” with any legal authority. Goes a long way with the cops and the FAA. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday i remember when the bundys took over

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

No bathroom seems cruel, it’s not like you can stop and use the bathroom at a fast food place anymore. Do you have a sink in the garage area for washing hands, with soap and paper towels? I still view handwashing as my #1 protection against contracting or spreading the virus. I guess

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

I translated it to a per head cost. He leases the ranch from a trust for the entire ranch of 40k acres. What a head is worth depends on how you sell them but I think he mostly sells heifers without cows and all yearling bulls for $1800 to $2500 but it is a per pound price. He is doing well as he

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

i remember when the bundys took over the wildlife refuge. never could figure out how a couple locals charged with arson correlated to them taking over the refuge and making improvements to it. finnicum got himself killed, im pretty sure that was his intent. The fbi was in the wrong, but it was an

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

So got an update Anybody curious, this is for Illinois. IDPH hotline 18008893931 option 4 I was in contact with a positive case but have no symptoms Continue normal activity if contact was not within 6 feet for more than a few minutes If there are no symptoms and there was not contact within 6

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

Lots of people have wrongheaded beliefs. Lots of people are assholes. Lots of people have guns. Lots of people make threats. Put them all together, though, and you have a problem. I seem to remember that law enforcement tried to take the approach that enforcing compliance would do more

Re: [AFMUG] OT Learned something today

Well, I'll be @#$%&! bp On 4/13/2020 8:45 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: From Beetle Bailey.   The term grawlix refers to the series of typographical symbols (such as

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

We've always referred to it as Bureau of Leasing and Mining, but whatever floats your boat. bp On 4/13/2020 10:41 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: It has always been a screaming deal.  Detractors used to

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

It has always been a screaming deal. Detractors used to claim that BLM stood for Bureau of Livestock and Mining. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 11:37 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday That $165,000 is what, about $118/head? I honestly don't know what a

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

That $165,000 is what, about $118/head? I honestly don't know what a whole cow is worth at auction, but I would guess around $1,000-$1,500? if your friend is doing OK at that rate, the $16/head price seems like a screaming deal. bp On 4/13/2020

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

He’s said before that he’d pay the state for the grazing, just not the BLM. So why doesnt the state just accept the check and sign it over to the BLM? lol > On Apr 13, 2020, at 11:22 AM, wrote: > > The part of Nevada in question has a long running battle between the BLM and > locals.

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

The part of Nevada in question has a long running battle between the BLM and locals. Locals want to continue to use rs2477 roads, the BLM wants to close them. Years ago they called it the sagebrush rebellion. Bundy’s claim of prior rights seems a bit sketchy. I am very surprised he did not

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

Use silver bullets dipped in hydroxychloroquine? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 11:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday theirs was more to do with prior rights. I fully support these armed gatherings I fully

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

The soundbites make it seem like that bunch of cooks has a valid argument. Once you dig down into it you find they are a bunch of anarchist that seem skilled at swaying the media. As Chuck said, if you are going to use a public asset, you have to pay the public (gevernment) for its use. For some

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

I like the way you think... On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:35 AM Steve Jones wrote: > theirs was more to do with prior rights. > > I fully support these armed gatherings > I fully support my right to shoot them if they do a mass gathering and > come near my installers afterward > I dont own the

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

If you need some Tranzeo gear to put up, there are probably a few people on the list who would be happy to get it out of their dead radios bin. bp On 4/13/2020 9:33 AM, Steve Jones wrote: theirs was more to do with prior

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

theirs was more to do with prior rights. I fully support these armed gatherings I fully support my right to shoot them if they do a mass gathering and come near my installers afterward I dont own the company, I dont have any direct cost. but eventually if we have to keep sending guys home for 14

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

I heard a story about them on the radio this morning but attention was divided & I didn't get the whole story. I'm not sure exactly where they are in Idaho, but when I saw the county-by-county map showing Blaine County Idaho having among the highest (if not the

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

Is that where the Bundies are? I saw something about them wanting to do a gathering of people with armed enforcement of the right to assemble or something like that. While I sympathize somewhat with some of their grazing and water issues in Utah and Nevada those guys seem to be itching for

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

Interesting that the worst place for COVID-19 cases is Blaine County Idaho (> 2,000 cases per 100,000 population), and the Bundies are at it again. bp On 4/13/2020 8:33 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: https://covid19.topos.com/

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

I really dont know why pork burgers arent more popular. If ground with the right fat content, they taste like pork steaks for people with bad teeth. Its like lawrys was made specifically for that. I didnt even know about pork burgers til I started working here, id heard of them, but thought they

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

The log curve of daily deaths is starting to flatten. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday I think the daily deaths graph probably gives a better picture of where we are on the curve, but that appears

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

The problem is that so little of the hog is actually bacon, there's downward pressure on the demand for the rest of the animal to produce enough bacon. Bacon prices will go up, while the rest goes down. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

I look forward to other meat packers closing shop for a while so that the supply chain we're in goes slightly up in price from what it would have been. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

smithfield bacon is awful anyway. our local dairy has been selling their stuff direct to consumer and flooding the local stores. they keep putting heavy cream up dirt cheap so me and the kids have been shake shake shaking the shit out of butter. When this things over, dairy will be a weird

Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

I don't remember if I asked that or not, but I'm assuming it won't On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:53 AM Steve Jones wrote: > will it do data port sync? > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:55 AM Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> It's too bad there's no GPS in it though... >> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:30 AM

Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

When I asked Cambium about the lack of GPS, they said that they decided it wasn't necessary, because these wouldn't be used where you're co-locating with other APs anyway... that's all fine and dandy, but I don't care about interfering with other APs at the same site, I care about interfering with

Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

will it do data port sync? On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:55 AM Mathew Howard wrote: > It's too bad there's no GPS in it though... > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:30 AM Steve Jones > wrote: > >> This thing is pretty cool. Looks like they just robbed the guts of a 3k >> ap and put it in the e500

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

I think the daily deaths graph probably gives a better picture of where we are on the curve, but that appears to be pretty much following the same trend anyway. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:32 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > This seems to be the only daily new case (United States) graph, too. I > look

[AFMUG] OT Learned something today

>From Beetle Bailey. The term grawlix refers to the series of typographical symbols (such as @#$%&!) used in cartoons and comic strips to represent swear words. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

One of my high school classmates is a life long dairy farmer. This is a 2-part blog he posted on Linked In.

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

We have them for Utah but they are a few days old. They don’t update it as frequently as this one. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:20 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday I wish they had these charts per state or metro area, but I

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

Bad news for you pork lovers, Smithfield is closing some plants, and warning it threatens our national meat supply. But on the other hand I heard there is actually a bacon glut due to all the restaurant closures, and that people were trying to figure out how to hoard all the cheap bacon. So

Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

Ya that hurts too. Thanks for pointing that out. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP It's too bad there's no GPS in it though... On Mon, Apr

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

https://covid19.topos.com/ On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 9:12 AM wrote: > [image: image] > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

https://covid19.topos.com/ On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 9:21 AM Mathew Howard wrote: > I wish they had these charts per state or metro area, but I haven't found > that anywhere yet (not that I've spent a lot of time looking... ) > > The problem with this, is that it's pretty much just showing the NYC

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

Actually, I just noticed if you go out here: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 Over on the bottom left, they now have an "Admin1" tab that has data broken out by state. And an "Admin2" tab that has data broken out by US County On

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

This seems to be the only daily new case (United States) graph, too. I look every once in a while but this is the only one. Not that it's wrong or anything, just like seeing multiple sources. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

I wish they had these charts per state or metro area, but I haven't found that anywhere yet (not that I've spent a lot of time looking... ) The problem with this, is that it's pretty much just showing the NYC curve at this point (since everything else is buried under those numbers), and doesn't

[AFMUG] Happy Monday

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Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

It's too bad there's no GPS in it though... On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:30 AM Steve Jones wrote: > This thing is pretty cool. Looks like they just robbed the guts of a 3k > ap and put it in the e500 housing. If it's got the aux port then you could > use a force 300 to backhaul into it with just

Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

Too bad. It would have been nice to have it all in one. Having one unit coming in and it not look any different on a roof would have been beneficial. I did think the new mu-mimo antenna looked promising though. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

This thing is pretty cool. Looks like they just robbed the guts of a 3k ap and put it in the e500 housing. If it's got the aux port then you could use a force 300 to backhaul into it with just one power supply and cable. This would be good for some of our hog farm customers with multiple buildings

Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

I think the thought is that you backhaul to the ePMP MP3000 using an ePMP SM connected to an ePMP 3K access point on a tower. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:14 AM Andy Trimmell wrote: > So am I reading this correctly that it’s a backhaul and omni antenna in > one? > > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

Not correct. It's an AP, not a backhaul. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 7:14 AM Andy Trimmell wrote: > So am I reading this correctly that it’s a backhaul and omni antenna in > one? > > > > > https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/epmp/epmp-mp-3000-micropop-fixed-wireless-access-point/ > > > > > >

[AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

So am I reading this correctly that it's a backhaul and omni antenna in one? https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/epmp/epmp-mp-3000-micropop-fixe d-wireless-access-point/ Andy