Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower   Not within those margins of error, no.   Thank you, Brian Webster

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower Not within those margins of error, no. Thank you, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. Cooperstown, NY 13326 (607) 643-4055 Office (607) 435-3988 Mobile www.wirelessmapping.com <h

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower Oh, I see (said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw). They don’t trust Google Earth or topo maps for ground elevation? From: AF On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, April

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

, 2020 5:12 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower As far a height, a surveyor is not really needed. It’s 5 sections of Rohn with 5 feet buried in the ground, the laser rangefinder says 45 feet, or we can do a tape drop. You don’t need

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

, 2020 3:45 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower There is a document standard published from the FAA as to the reporting standards. I haven’t looked at that in 20 plus years but it does exist. You are right Lewis, for a surveyor

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: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower Many surveyors don't have any idea what that 1A should look like so they are lost. The cost to do a 1A and 2C is the same and their accuracy exceeds both of those requirements. If you need an example letter I produced and have had successfully filed

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

ven if you don’t change the height so that they can do an > RFI study again. > > > > Thank you, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Hardy > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2020

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] On Behalf Of Tim Hardy Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:59 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower The FAA Notice Criteria tool mentioned by Lewis is also more accurate than TOWAIR and we have seen instances where it will clear towers

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The FAA Notice Criteria tool mentioned by Lewis is also more accurate than TOWAIR and we have seen instances where it will clear towers that TOWAIR failed. All we had to do was file the FAA Report data along with the TOWAIR data and the application was accepted. > On Apr 14, 2020, at 7:45 PM,

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ay, April 14, 2020 6:02 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower > > > I have a TOWAIR report from Micronet, is that the same thing I’d get from > that form? > > It references a 100:1 slope, Chuck’s post seemed

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. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:45 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower > > > > The FAA had a tool to determine if you have to file. >

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

Depends on how far you are away. A steeper angle near the airport. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:02 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower I have a TOWAIR report from Micronet, is that the same thing I’d get from

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower The FAA had a tool to determine if you have to file. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/gisTools/gisAction.jsp?action=showNoNoticeRequiredToolForm On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:47 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

of ice once but for the most part it was uneventful. Have not been in the clouds in years. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower IFR is just a different way to scare the crap out

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f me. So I got an IFR ticket so I never had to do that again. > > From: Mark Radabaugh <> > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:38 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower > > Those numbers in the link

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Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower Those numbers in the link are the ones that determine if you need to check further.This is the procedure design manual https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/FAA_Order_8260.3D1.pdf It gets very detailed in how

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

The FAA had a tool to determine if you have to file. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/gisTools/gisAction.jsp?action=showNoNoticeRequiredToolForm On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:47 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it’s a 45 or 50 ft > probably Rohn 45G.

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

tenna-structure-height/ <> > > From: Ken Hohhof <> > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:47 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <> > Subject: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower > > We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it’s a 45

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower I doubt it will be much of an issue. It may already be on the approach charts and factored into the airport approaches already even without an ASR. The process will take some time but I wouldn’t expect it to be a big deal. Go

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

If you are farther than 2500’ from the runway you are good. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:47 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it’s a 45 or 50 ft probably

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Part of the ASR is frequency coordination with the airport. As long as you're not actually causing a hazard to air traffic they'll most likely approve it. If they don't approve it, I'm not sure what the process is. However at 45-50 ft, the chances of them caring about the height is so close to

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https://hamradioschool.com/g1b01-maximum-antenna-structure-height/ From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:47 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it’s a 45 or 50 ft

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may have to do some NEPA crap to prove you did not dig up an indian grave when you put it in. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:47 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

I doubt it will be much of an issue. It may already be on the approach charts and factored into the airport approaches already even without an ASR. The process will take some time but I wouldn’t expect it to be a big deal. Go to www.airnav.com , look up the airport.

[AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it's a 45 or 50 ft probably Rohn 45G. It is near a smallish regional airport but pretty much 90 degrees to the runway. We need to swap out the 5 GHz backhaul links on this tower for licensed. The frequency coordinator is telling us that