Jason, I am new to posting here. I cannot seem to see your direct
email address, please email me at s...@webformix.com so I can respond
back. Our Sandvine stuff was a bit more expensive than the Procera and
Allot options that ran around 30-35k but not too much. The support
contract is the killer
... also, I dont know if any have noticed. I have the spelling and grammar
of a two year old of late, thats a side effect of medication Im on for me
not to be stabbing people, I apologize if it gets confusing and I forget
the spellchecker
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:24 AM, That One Guy via Af
Steve,
Yes, we are considering doing a point release to 2.3 to add this support.
Thanks,
Sriram
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Wireless Admin via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 4:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP feature
Anyone know when Cambium is going to
Yes 450 only
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:45 AM, TJ Trout via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Is the focus ring a 450 only product? Epmp?
On Oct 28, 2014 7:50 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
The old ones (with the screw in the back) needed some double-stick tape
to hold
Been away from email for a few days. Just getting back to responding now.
One could always connect the GPS Sync AP radio to the Force dish and have a GPS
Sync’ed PTP radio.
That is supported. We do not at this time plan to offer a bundled solution
that provides that.
Latency is higher when
Thanks,
Steve
_
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sriram Chaturvedi via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP feature
Steve,
Yes, we are considering doing a point release to 2.3 to add this support.
The sooner the better!
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Sriram Chaturvedi via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:45:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP feature
Steve,
Yes,
That has got to be one of the best e-mails I have read in a long time :-)
Commscope makes a nice option for a large non-pen mast – but I’d steer away
from anything with less than a 4” OD mast for a 4ft antenna. Rohn makes a
similar one, and Baird has a few options.
Daniel White |
Depends – is speed measured by latency or capacity *ducks*
Daniel White | Managing Director
SAF North America LLC
Cell:
(303) 746-3590
Skype:
danieldwhite
E-mail:
mailto:daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
I don't have the calcs handy atm but it was calculated 5x9 at 2048QAM.
Short link though, 3.5 miles with 3'/4' dishes, RSL low 30's. Quite
aware of how quick 2048 will drop down, and 80mhz channels would have
given more wiggle room to drop rates and still maintain 1Gbps but
there was a time
Honestly couldn't tell you, that's not my side of the house. The only
numbers I saw included all the integration and such.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
General price?
Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
All will do 1gbps. I think these are listed in order of price. I am
using Exalt now. Looking heavily at the PTP820c for QoS and OAM features.
Cambium PTP820c with 80mhz channels, 1024QAM(~$23k)
Exalt ExtremeAir with XPIC and 80mhz channel, 256QAM (~$25k)
Ceragon IP20c, 60mhz channels, 2048QAM
+1
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:31 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP feature
The sooner the better!
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
If you want to mount a 4' dish on a non-pen mount use a Rohn BRM6
(http://www.rohnnet.com/filedownload/downloadfile/fileid/47/filenum/0/src/@random4a720ea8974f5).
I prefer the BRM64510M so I can put the dish at whatever height I want.
I have a 4' HP and a 3' HP dish on one of these with about
Steve you are truly one of my favorite people. Keep on keepin' on.
-Ty
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 1:20 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
... also, I dont know if any have noticed. I have the spelling and grammar
of a two year old of late, thats a side effect of medication Im on for me
The other schools in the area have them. Like Mike stated none have had
anything bad to say nor anything good to say.
The district went to all chrome books and they are saturating their AP's (my
guess from the symptoms he was describing). Unfortunately they use a
consultant group for their E-Rate
Thanks Jaime. I’m not sure what they are using right now although I did see a
few UBNT poe bricks scattered about.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:35 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerohive AP's
We
Just say on the meds, for the love of God, stay on the meds...
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting
... also, I dont know if any have noticed. I have the spelling and grammar of a
two
What do these cost you?
-Original Message-
From: Matt Jenkins via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] first approved licensed link mounting
If you want to mount a 4' dish on a non-pen mount use a Rohn BRM6
Gotch ya Robert. That does happen quite often with the schools only going one
way with a certain vendor and not looking at other alternatives. Ruckus would
be a good fit since it excels in high density situations like this, where they
have a bunch of Chromebooks connecting at the same time.
I checked our PO database and discovered I linked the wrong one. I use
the BRM4
(http://www.rohnnet.com/filedownload/downloadfile/fileid/46/filenum/0/src/@random4a720e6be1bdd).
Model: BRM44510 which has a 10ft 4.5 mast. Cost from Tessco is about $1000.
Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
A question on your list:
Cambium PTP820c with 80mhz channels, 1024QAM(~$23k)
Ceragon IP20c, 60mhz channels, 2048QAM (I think this is about $35k?)
These are the same radios right? So I assume the PTP820c can do 2048QAM as
well..? but it sounds like its being offered for a lower price than the
So the going paperless is way easier than you think.
Buy a signature pad like a Topaz Sig Lite (usb) send with installer.
Your contract is probably already in PDF form. Create Information
boxes and add a signature field. This can be done with Acrobat reader
I think. They save on the computer
my network runs at the speed of light 186,282 miles per second ;-)
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Depends – is speed measured by latency or capacity **ducks**
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*Daniel White* | Managing Director
*SAF
I’m going to second paperless. We just use google drive with a folder for open
sales orders and a folder for completed sales orders. In the office, we just
save new sales orders to the open folder. Tech opens them on an iPad mini, has
the customer sign them, and saves them to completed.
On 10/29/14, 10:41, CARL PETERSON via Af wrote:
I�m going to second paperless. We just use google drive with a folder
for open sales orders and a folder for completed sales orders. In the
office, we just save new sales orders to the open folder. Tech opens
them on an iPad mini, has the
Anyone using the PTP450 in 5.8GHZ? What king of throughput are you
getting? Same range as PTP230?
At the risk of getting my testicals chopped off, I’d recommend wall mounting if
you can. SBWM-412 from Sitepro is $150 and the HWK58 for mounting is ~$30.
Throw in 6’ 0f 4-1/2” pipe for $160 and your looking at a solid mount for $340
that takes less time to install then it would take to lug
in 2000 president Clinton signed the Electronic Signature Act which in
the US (many other countries have followed suit) makes a digital click as
legally binding as your scribbled John Hancock
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Seth Mattinen via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
On 10/29/14, 10:41, CARL
Those are real radios that Matts referring too, not little 5 mile toys
On Oct 29, 2014 10:44 AM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
my network runs at the speed of light 186,282 miles per second ;-)
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Daniel White via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Depends – is
+1 on the meds.
Steve, if you ever leave this list, I will have a lot fewer coffee
stains to clean off my monitor...
bp
On 10/29/2014 6:55 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Just say on the meds, for the love of God, stay on the meds...
*From:* That One Guy via Af mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:*
I remember an ATT U-Verse installer finishing the job and then wanting me
to sign a 7 page agreement on his iPad. He stood there killing time for 154
minutes while I read the agreement. Apparently they count on people not
reading what they sign. Also it seems like the time to get it signed
we normally get ours signed ahead of time
We used to have a customer sign off form, but when they did get filled out
they rarely made it back to the shop
We are looking at options through powercode to get customer signatures,
even if its just a tablet upload as a file.
I dont know why people are
There are a large number of possible software licenses available for
these platforms that can really move the price around. Some are
needed, others unlikely for most of our applications. Hard to compare
like for like without a side by side BOM comparison.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Bill
Excellent feedback from everyone, I greatly appreciate it. The concept of the
quick PDF is nice, as well as the Google Drive folders. Our agreement is only
a couple pages, the install work order is a couple pages as well, but nothing
to consuming for someone to read through and then have an
We have a new subscriber we're providing dedicated 24x24 service right now.
He's asked for a quote for dedicated 100x100 service. The link is ~~
8.5 miles. Right now, I'm thinking we need to put in a licensed link.
The site is active with 2 PMP450 APs, and I do not want to interfere on
a
$1500 - $2500 a month is a competitive range.
On 10/29/2014 1:57 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
We have a new subscriber we're providing dedicated 24x24 service right
now.
He's asked for a quote for dedicated 100x100 service. The link is ~~
8.5 miles. Right now, I'm thinking we need to put
Nothing is more rage inducing than the term software license
Sent from my portable confuser
On Oct 29, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
There are a large number of possible software licenses available for
these platforms that can really move the price around. Some
What part number are you talking about? I've never heard of a focus ring.
--danp
On 10/28/2014 04:35 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
Are you supposed to add some kind of adhesive to keep the focus ring
from blowing off?
**
*-Peter*
Don't know the part number. Here's a picture of it:
http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=79
bp
On 10/29/2014 12:06 PM, tcidan via Af wrote:
What part number are you talking about? I've never heard of a focus ring.
--danp
On 10/28/2014 04:35 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
Are you
I wonder how much the e-signing companies charge per document?
VoIP Innovations and Lease Corp both use e-signing services and I like it.
Makes it seem very professional, even though basically you are just clicking to
sign. It’s nice to be able to use the link and go back later and see what
$20 - $50 a month per user is what some of them charge.
On 10/29/2014 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
I wonder how much the e-signing companies charge per document?
VoIP Innovations and Lease Corp both use e-signing services and I like
it. Makes it seem very professional, even though
Or check out open esignforms for free :)
http://open.esignforms.com/
On 10/29/2014 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
I wonder how much the e-signing companies charge per document?
VoIP Innovations and Lease Corp both use e-signing services and I like
it. Makes it seem very professional,
Adobe is roughly $15/user/mth
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Keefe John via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Or check out open esignforms for free :)
http://open.esignforms.com/
On 10/29/2014 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:
I wonder how much the e-signing companies charge
Last time I looked at SAF Integra it didn't do 1gig in 11ghz on one
channel with XPIC. Also I don't have to combine the data at the bottom
of the tower. Its all one radio interface which is much easier for
routing. For us those were huge requirements. Exalt has done that for a
couple of years.
Cambridge VectaStar!
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Jason McKemie via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
FTTA? I hate that crap, let's call it what it is - wireless, or more
generically, high speed. Am I the only person who wants to smack this
marketing department in the mouth?
On Friday, October
Right. The price was meant as a very rough estimate. Quantity discounts
from vendors and different feature sets can change those prices quite a
bit too.
Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net
530.272.4000
On 10/29/2014 11:43 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af wrote:
There are a large number
I agree to an extent, however there are some cases where I think it
makes sense. For a platform that's a few $k, totally agree. But some
of these high end systems support a ton of telco/celco derived
features that are not part of the standard transport feature set we
care about and that we'll
What are Comcast\TW\ATT\Zayo\etc. selling 100 megs for? That's where you want
to sell your 100 megs, assuming you're not losing your ass at that rate.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Bill Prince via Af
No Comcast here. No ATT here. Others as well.
Only real competition at this site would be bonded T1 lines. Qty 1 T1
in this location would be ~~ $500 per month.
There might be another Wireless provider that could get through the hole
in the trees, but the number would be very, very
Well, okay, but in that general area. The only fiber network available at my
house is the one I had brought to my house. However, I would still price out a
service as Windstream, Comcast, Frontier, etc. would as they're in my area.
None of them have fiber anywhere close to me, but they're in my
Anyone know where you can get a custom engraving stencil? Want to put
property of XXX on all our hand tools. Small enough to go on wrenches
as well.
Base Price:
1yr Contract: $1980/mo
2yr Contract: $1870/mo
3yr Contract: $1760/mo
We negotiate discounts from those prices. Usually end up giving
customers 20-30% off to make a deal. DIA services are always
negotiable. Sometimes we have to add to them to deal with all the
upgrades necessary to
x31 x32 x33
Back to you TJ
bp
On 10/29/2014 2:07 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote:
I have a feeling the focus ring shapes the pattern of the 100/450 antennas to
be more like the 430 already is. So there’s nothing to gain with 430.
Apparently whatever magic Cambium used to get higher gain from the single pol
430 patch could not be replicated in a dual pol patch for 450.
Done.. whats next?
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Dennis Burgess via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
Tim,
Shoot me a e-mail and I can get you the logo etc for towercoverage.com. J
Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net
They are stating that they have a 6-8 week turn around for a new radio.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:20 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
out of curiousity, why not go through Dragon wave for a replacement? are
they not stocking them?
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Sam Lambie via
going Digital is note that hard now days all you have to do is get youre
Techs Galaxy Note Phones with a PDF Editor app have them Sign the PDF have
tech email a copy to billing.. then billing can e-mail copy to customer or
mail with next bill..
not sure what about that needs a plan..
On Wed, Oct
OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also powered via
POE.
does such a beast exist? Hook me up with a model # please
thanks
We have a three part work order form. Installer keeps a copy, office keeps a
copy, office keeps a copy.
Basically without this form the installer isn't paid for those hours (not that
we've ever had to fight it)
- Original Message -
From: Ben Royer via Af
To: af@afmug.com
493, 493G, 2011, 1100AHx2, CRS109, CRS125
From: CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org ; Principal WISPA Member List
Subject: [AFMUG] what i needmikrotik
OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also
493g?
___
Mangled by my iPhone.
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Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.
tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
___
On Oct 29, 2014, at 5:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
RB2011?
Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
On 10/29/2014 02:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:
OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also
powered via POE.
does such a beast exist? Hook me up with a model
RB493, RB2011, RB1100, RB1200.
bp
On 10/29/2014 3:40 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:
OK, i need a board that has more than 5 ports on it that is also
powered via POE.
does such a beast exist? Hook me up with a model # please
thanks
What you are describing is a performance/discipline incentive. Those types of
merit-based programs are generally going to be ok, at least from a wage and
hour standpoint (though they can always raise other issues of their
own--implement plans like this only with the benefit of legal advice,
The Square POS application for iPad uses card-swipe and finger signatures.
Seems good enough for VISA, Mastercard, the payment card industry as a
whole.
That pricing is similar to what we charge when using PTP600 directly back to a
fiber fed hub site. At the customer site, we install an APC 1500 UPS (with
SNMP management) and a Juniper SRX router - fully managed and monitored from
NOC.
-Original Message-
From: Af
We still use a the carbon copy forms.. No hardware .
The cost of printing (ink) is approx .25 - .75 cents a print or more
depending on usage. The carbon prints from a professional printing company
runs us about 120 bucks for a full CASE of triple copy contracts ready
to sign.
I say the
We do similar and if the customer doesnt have these things at the
termination point we offer a lease or purchase for the extended equipment.
I still cant get away from Mikrotiks CCR routers instead of the latter.
On 10/29/2014 7:29 PM, Paul Stewart via Af wrote:
That pricing is similar to what
Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock...
I also want all these style boards or at least the CCR to have a
Terminal jack near the AC power port (You know the little green ones
with screws in them )..
For DC input up to 30Volts or even 48volt would be great. Why is it so
hard to have a
Me want.. CCR1009?, dual AC or DC power supplies, 4 SFP or SFP+ slots,
two 5-port copper GigE switch groups. 4 backhauls, 8 sectors and two
extra ports for whatever.
On 10/29/2014 8:02 PM, David Milholen via Af wrote:
Mikrotik are you listening... Knock knock...
I also want all these style
Chris,
Been hitting about 450 at peak. I'll keep my eyes on it. Thanks for
the heads up.
--
Best regards,
Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com
Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
I think the short answer is:
I’ve got 350kW of co-location.. It’s easy to break even and hard to make
money.. there is a lot of competition from people who will do anything to
undercut your pricing.
You need a lot of things to do it well, and it all adds up.
-Peter
From: Af
That we have announced, of course.
Of course we also don't announce radios then don't have inventory for 6 months
either. We don't even talk roadmap under NDA for things that are less than a
realistic 6 months out.
FYI Integra does support LAG (or PLA as other vendors call it) and I'd also
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