Re: [AFMUG] Expeto

2015-09-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Sprint has that program for rural operators. It's called their RRPP. I'm guessing these guys are participating in that program and subbing it out to others. Depending on what Sprint is doing in your area, you could gain access to 5x5 at 850 MHz, 5x5 at 1900 MHz and Nx20 TDD at 2.5 GHz. It would

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-08 Thread George Skorup
I run the backbone/area 0 only. But I have less than 15 routers speaking OSPF. Convergence time is fine so I see no reason to go to multi-area any time soon. On 9/8/2015 12:39 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: Can an area have multiple ABR routers connecting to area 0 (Is there any way to add

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-08 Thread Mathew Howard
I have everything in area 0 too, and we've get well over 100 routers running OSPF and I really don't see any good reason to change it at this point. On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:08 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I run the backbone/area 0 only. But I have less than 15 routers speaking

[AFMUG] Verizon Will Test Faster, 5G Technology in 2016 - Fortune

2015-09-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://fortune.com/2015/09/08/verizon-5g-wireless/

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-08 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
It’s all about memory and how many routes to process. http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=309 That’s a blog article I wrote which may help some. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Nate Burke
Do the new dishes have a new part number? Or just what you get from distributors as they go through stock? On 9/8/2015 4:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: They already know about the hardware, the new Force dishes are much much better.� As far as current stuff I don't know... Josh Luthman

[AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Nate Burke
We've had to start doing our first couple EPMP takedowns (Force dishes), and it seems that the stainless nuts have seized on. Should we be hitting all installs with Anti-Seize, or would we be better off just replacing the hardware with brass/bronze nuts ala LMG? I haven't used Anti-Seize

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Can you replace parts with hot dipped galvanized ones instead? BTW what is Force EPMP ? On Sep 8, 2015 2:54 PM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > We've had to start doing our first couple EPMP takedowns (Force dishes), > and it seems that the stainless nuts have seized on. > > Should we

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
They already know about the hardware, the new Force dishes are much much better. As far as current stuff I don't know... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 8, 2015 5:00 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Mathew Howard
That's what I thought... so it seems like it's going to be awhile before there's a replacement for the 110. On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Force 180 is no dish. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St >

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don’t think brass nuts have the required strength or corrosion resistance, and good luck finding M8 silicon bronze nuts or whatever metric size the Force dishes take. I have been using the Permatex nickel anti-seize, I am confident this will prevent seizing, but it is messy. Not really a

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Special bees will construct it on site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uSVM3tJVPk From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 4:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts When will this magical new dish be out? Will it keep my installers from Swearing

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Mathew Howard
I've started just swapping al the nuts with UBNT antennas (Powerbeams, specifically - which are galvanized)... but that only works if you use UBNT stuff too. On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Can you replace parts with hot dipped galvanized ones

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Mathew Howard
I see some places have the Force 200 and the Force 180 listed now, so I'm guessing it won't be too much longer. but... the Force 200 seems to only be 2.4ghz, and I have figured out what exactly the 180 is yet. On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > When will

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Dunno yes maybe probably no Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 8, 2015 5:30 PM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > When will this magical new dish be out? Will it keep my installers from > Swearing while assembling them?

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Chuck McCown
I am a big believer in the brass nuts. I am sure anti-seize works most of the time, brass works all of the time. (Even though brass monkeys are on the endangered species list, we gotta have 'em.) -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 2:54 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
It'll be a new part entirely. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 8, 2015 5:24 PM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > Do the new dishes have a new part number? Or just what you get from > distributors as they go through

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Nate Burke
When will this magical new dish be out? Will it keep my installers from Swearing while assembling them? Can it be installed by Drone? I can just program the drone and release it from the roof of my office to go do the install? On 9/8/2015 4:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It'll be a new part

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Force 180 is no dish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 8, 2015 5:34 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > I see some places have the Force 200 and the Force 180 listed now, so I'm > guessing it won't be too much

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Bill Prince
We have used all 3 methods. Anti-seize, silicon-bronze nuts, and HDG nuts. All 3 methods work, with varying amounts of difficulty and/or mess. Silicon-bronze are hard to find in some sizes. Anti-seize is messy. HDG can be had in almost all sizes and is not messy. bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

2015-09-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
In 2006? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:21 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce I had good service with ElectroComm On Sep 8, 2015 5:01 PM, "Jerry Head" wrote: Although I quit CTI over a year ago, Jonte was my guy

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

2015-09-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
I had good service with ElectroComm On Sep 8, 2015 5:01 PM, "Jerry Head" wrote: > Although I quit CTI over a year ago, Jonte was my guy and he was very good. > Having said that, I will go back into the wrecker business before I trade > with CTI again. > I HATED

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

2015-09-08 Thread Jerry Head
Although I quit CTI over a year ago, Jonte was my guy and he was very good. Having said that, I will go back into the wrecker business before I trade with CTI again. I HATED the wrecker business On 9/3/2015 6:43 PM, Jon Auer wrote: I'm fairly happy with CTI (our rep: James until last year

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like I'm back

2015-09-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
It is also best to not document anything On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Yup. Only change what needs done, not everything. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Sep

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like I'm back

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Did you charge for the service call? :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 8, 2015 11:26 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > i just save an engineers butt because I write everything down in >

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like I'm back

2015-09-08 Thread Glen Waldrop
hahaha Well played. If there is no documentation they can't get rid of you can go through your stuff. - Original Message - From: Mathew Howard To: af Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looks like I'm back Job security... if there's no

Re: [AFMUG] Don't Update Chrome

2015-09-08 Thread Patrick Leary
Alvarion used java for BreezeMAX. Telrad scrapped it when we re-built an entirely new management system, this one using Netconf. Patrick Leary, Telrad 727-501-3735 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 10:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] OT BYU vs Nebraska

2015-09-08 Thread Aaron Schneider
Nebraska is my alma mater. I saw that play in all of its glory live with a room full of Husker fans. You could hear a pin drop! My first thought was that now we know how Northwestern felt when Nebraska did that same thing to them 2 years ago from midfield. Which would you rather have? Won

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

2015-09-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep. Liked those cats On Sep 8, 2015 5:40 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > In 2006? > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:21 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce > > > I had good service with

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Yeah, true enough … there was a very large cable provider in the USA that I did consulting work for several years ago – they were running backbone area in OSPF (single area 0) with over 650k routes! No, it was not ideal and convergence was “challenging” to say the least. It wasn’t why I was

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-08 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
We have swapped all of ours out with hot dipped galvanized bolts and nuts in standard threads (US) its working well. Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-08 Thread Paul Stewart
Yup … have seen some *really* large networks run everything in backbone area … In previous job, we had 6000+ routes in backbone area with no noticeable issues. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 3:28 PM To: af

Re: [AFMUG] OT BYU vs Nebraska

2015-09-08 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
oh, if you want the full story and you somehow missed it a few years ago... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR7s2m5Z5GA :) - Original Message - From: Aaron Schneider To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT BYU vs Nebraska

Re: [AFMUG] OT BYU vs Nebraska

2015-09-08 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Even better moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GKmkD1pUG0 :) - Original Message - From: Aaron Schneider To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT BYU vs Nebraska Nebraska is my alma mater. I saw that play in all of

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
32 megs? Wow... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 8, 2015 8:55 PM, "Justin Wilson - MTIN" wrote: > Areas came to being when routers had 32 megs of ram small processors. It > was mainly a mechanism to cut down

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-08 Thread Christopher Gray
The blog article seems to imply an area can have multiple ABRs. It looks like I'm quite far from needing areas, but I'm also entertaining them as a mechanism to separate customer IPs from the backbone area. I'll continue with a single area for the time being. I am still interested to know whether

[AFMUG] Looks like I'm back

2015-09-08 Thread Chuck McCown
When re-aiming your domain, good to just move the Web DNS stuff and not the whole domain (assuming that domain is also your email domain) I hosed myself for the last two days.

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like I'm back

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Yup. Only change what needs done, not everything. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 8, 2015 11:08 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > When re-aiming your domain, good to just move the Web DNS stuff and not > the whole

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like I'm back

2015-09-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
i am old schooli have yellow notepads and spiral notebooks going back to 1992!!! some important stuff is a fire proof safe Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I have two spreadsheets full of

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like I'm back

2015-09-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Just don’t take his red stapler. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 10:31 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looks like I'm back Job security... if there's no documentation, they need you :P On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like I'm back

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
You're a sick man. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 8, 2015 11:16 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > It is also best to not document anything > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Josh Luthman

[AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-08 Thread Christopher Gray
Can an area have multiple ABR routers connecting to area 0 (Is there any way to add redundancy to an area)? How big is too big for an OSPF database (At what point should one really start using areas)? With Mikrotik hardware, if there is no current need for VPLS tunnels or MPLS-TE, is there any

Re: [AFMUG] OT eCommerce

2015-09-08 Thread Daniel White
I’d drive my truck down there and fill up a trailer full of stuff all the time. Was nice having a big stocking distributor in your backyard. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social: