Re: [AFMUG] rodent repellant

2016-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Very common around here to grow peppermint around homes and gardens...helps keep critters away... On Jun 15, 2016 9:42 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > What you don't like pussycats? Find a few ferrel cats... let them > clean our place and move on. > On Jun 15,

Re: [AFMUG] rodent repellant

2016-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
What you don't like pussycats? Find a few ferrel cats... let them clean our place and move on. On Jun 15, 2016 9:33 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > I remember a thread about Mouse Magic. We are in a tower shelter that has > a mouse problem, and I couldn't find the rodent

Re: [AFMUG] Weird 450 SM

2016-06-15 Thread George Skorup
Yep, build 17 is working pretty good for me too across a couple sectors. On 6/15/2016 10:10 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: 14.1.2(beta 17) is extremely stable. They should be releasing the final 14.1.2 any day now. -Sean On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, David Milholen

[AFMUG] rodent repellant

2016-06-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
I remember a thread about Mouse Magic. We are in a tower shelter that has a mouse problem, and I couldn't find the rodent killer place packs I was looking for, but the hardware store had packets of Mouse Magic. Basically like big tea bags filled with peppermint/spearmint impregnated ground

Re: [AFMUG] Weird 450 SM

2016-06-15 Thread Sean Heskett
14.1.2(beta 17) is extremely stable. They should be releasing the final 14.1.2 any day now. -Sean On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, David Milholen wrote: > At least move to 13.4 it has been really stable for us but have been doing > beta on our 3.65 gear. > > > > On 6/15/2016

Re: [AFMUG] Toughbooks

2016-06-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Here's a bargain installer laptop that'll take a beating: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ITRONIX-GOBOOK-IX-605-VR2-CORE-2-DUO-2-20GHz-DVD-RW-Rugged-80-GB-Laptop-Linux-/252414343516?hash=item3ac511395c:g:TaEAAOSwDV1XQ4HF $56 with shipping... Doesn't come with power supply, so you'd need to find

Re: [AFMUG] Toughbooks

2016-06-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Yeah, it is amazing how much brighter sunlight is than any LCD, even cranked up to max brightness. In a dark room with my 5.5" phone turned up to maximum brightness, it's unbearably incredibly bright. Same brightness setting in direct Seattle sunlight may be barely usable. Worth mentioning that

Re: [AFMUG] Toughbooks

2016-06-15 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm really not sure what you would be doing with an installer/technician laptop that wouldn't work just fine on a Core 2, but all we really do with them is program radios and align antennas... and the ePMP interface is slow, but not *that* slow. However, on the subject of Toughbooks, it is well

Re: [AFMUG] OT... Rokutel

2016-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Sad part one of the guys in group is a radio technician I know from some training classes on surveillance systems we both took. Really sharp guy... I know the Mexican Marines are taking down a ton of illegal UHF 2way repeaters after FCC complained about interference on US side. SCT finally grew

Re: [AFMUG] OT... Rokutel

2016-06-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
That sucks. On Wed, Jun 15, 2016, 5:12 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Some guys in Chihuahua City have "opened" up the Roku 3 system and folks > are getting a premium channels like HBO free!!! They call it Rokutel just > like Piratel for pirated cellphones >

Re: [AFMUG] Weird 450 SM

2016-06-15 Thread David Milholen
At least move to 13.4 it has been really stable for us but have been doing beta on our 3.65 gear. On 6/15/2016 11:27 AM, George Skorup wrote: Mine was 13.2.1 On 6/15/2016 11:23 AM, David wrote: Which Firmware was this? On 06/15/2016 11:18 AM, TJ Burbank wrote: I have had 3 radios do this

Re: [AFMUG] Toughbooks

2016-06-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Ummm, a core i3 is a dual core CPU, it's the *type *of cores and architecture that's newer... Yes a 3rd/4th generation core i3 will be a lot faster than a core 2 duo based laptop. In my experience a fast SSD and 8GB of RAM will run an xubuntu/XFCE4 based desktop environment on a

Re: [AFMUG] Toughbooks

2016-06-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Those are great, solid descendants of the IBM ThinkPad. Love them. On Jun 15, 2016 6:02 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Based on our experience, dual-core doesn’t cut it any longer, you need an > I3 at minimum. To that end, we still like the Lenovo T420 units for > battery

Re: [AFMUG] Toughbooks

2016-06-15 Thread Rory Conaway
Based on our experience, dual-core doesn’t cut it any longer, you need an I3 at minimum. To that end, we still like the Lenovo T420 units for battery life and toughness. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:14 PM To: af

Re: [AFMUG] TOS, AUP, Etc.

2016-06-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
DON'T BE A DICK On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Jon Langeler wrote: > Anyone willing to share one? > > Thanks > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. >

[AFMUG] OT... Rokutel

2016-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Some guys in Chihuahua City have "opened" up the Roku 3 system and folks are getting a premium channels like HBO free!!! They call it Rokutel just like Piratel for pirated cellphones

Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning

2016-06-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Naw, a dude in a thong would have to pay me to clean my office. From: Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning Also, if their outfit is a thong only, that will make the price go way up L www.linktechs.net –

Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning

2016-06-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
Also, if their outfit is a thong only, that will make the price go way up ☹ [DennisBurgessSignature] www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning

2016-06-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Are they in little French maid outfits? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:11:53 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] TOS, AUP, Etc.

2016-06-15 Thread Jon Langeler
Internet Service. Apparently we're supposed to have onemaybe even posted on the website :) Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Jun 15, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > For what? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] TOS, AUP, Etc.

2016-06-15 Thread Jeremy
www.bluespring.me/legal/ On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > For what? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Jon Langeler

Re: [AFMUG] TOS, AUP, Etc.

2016-06-15 Thread Josh Luthman
For what? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > Anyone willing to share one? > > Thanks > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. >

[AFMUG] TOS, AUP, Etc.

2016-06-15 Thread Jon Langeler
Anyone willing to share one? Thanks Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

2016-06-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I like their website, makes me feel like a guy is gonna punch me in the face with positive product fists, might load it I have a dude server running now, I see this will take some work to get the data usable, and stupid mikrotik right now only lets it log to the base disk not the extended

Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

2016-06-15 Thread Josh Luthman
OVA is something like open virtualmachine appliance or something, I thought most if not all the big solutions would import it natively. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Josh Reynolds

Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

2016-06-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
It's an ova, so you can convert it and load into proxmox with a little work. On Jun 15, 2016 12:50 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Is there some way to load this into Proxmox, or is VMware necessary? > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Chris Wright

Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning

2016-06-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Depends on the cleaning crew. Do they have papers? What kind of tats and colors? Can they speak engrish? Can you keep them in the basement and charge them rent equal to their pay? From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 11:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT

Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning

2016-06-15 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I think that’s close to what I am paying. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 11:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning $65 per cleaning On 6/15/2016 12:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: clean it once,

Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

2016-06-15 Thread Jason McKemie
Is there some way to load this into Proxmox, or is VMware necessary? On Wednesday, June 15, 2016, Chris Wright wrote: > It doesn’t get much easier than SexiLog if you’re running a hypervisor. > > http://www.sexilog.fr/ > > > > > > Chris Wright > > Network Administrator > >

Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning

2016-06-15 Thread Travis Johnson
In our area, actual cleaning companies charge around $25/hour per person... so it depends on how much you want done and how long it takes. Travis On 6/15/2016 10:54 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: I know this is subjective, but how much should I be paying to have someone clean a 2000 sqr foot

Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning

2016-06-15 Thread Keefe John
$65 per cleaning On 6/15/2016 12:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: clean it once, take that time times your lowest paid lackeys rate of pay times 1.5 and thats what it should be On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Sterling Jacobson > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning

2016-06-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
clean it once, take that time times your lowest paid lackeys rate of pay times 1.5 and thats what it should be On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > I know this is subjective, but how much should I be paying to have someone > clean a 2000 sqr foot

[AFMUG] Kinda OT Office Cleaning

2016-06-15 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I know this is subjective, but how much should I be paying to have someone clean a 2000 sqr foot space? It is very lightly occupied, has two bathrooms, and mostly open floorplan with laminate flooring. Right now I'm cleaning it about 2-3 times a month.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] camping....campsites

2016-06-15 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Probably 45 total route miles too Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" To: , Subject: [WISPA Members][AFMUG] campingcampsites Date: Wed, Jun 15, 2016 11:35 AM In this

Re: [AFMUG] camping....campsites

2016-06-15 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
In this particular link it is Fiber - mimosa - mimosa - mimosa - 5 ghz rocket (about to be ac) - powerbeam ac - 5 ghz rocket - 5 ghz rocket - 2 .4 ghz rocket - 2.4 ghz nanobeam. Got 10/7 testing yesterday. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Brandon

Re: [AFMUG] Weird 450 SM

2016-06-15 Thread George Skorup
Mine was 13.2.1 On 6/15/2016 11:23 AM, David wrote: Which Firmware was this? On 06/15/2016 11:18 AM, TJ Burbank wrote: I have had 3 radios do this exact same thing but could never bring them back to life. Working 1 days the next not registering. AP Eval showed nothing, SA showed energy on

Re: [AFMUG] Weird 450 SM

2016-06-15 Thread George Skorup
Maybe a minute or two. On 6/15/2016 11:18 AM, TJ Burbank wrote: I have had 3 radios do this exact same thing but could never bring them back to life. Working 1 days the next not registering. AP Eval showed nothing, SA showed energy on AP frequency, factory defaults, firmware upgrades,

Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

2016-06-15 Thread Chris Wright
It doesn’t get much easier than SexiLog if you’re running a hypervisor. http://www.sexilog.fr/ Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Weird 450 SM

2016-06-15 Thread David
Which Firmware was this? On 06/15/2016 11:18 AM, TJ Burbank wrote: I have had 3 radios do this exact same thing but could never bring them back to life. Working 1 days the next not registering. AP Eval showed nothing, SA showed energy on AP frequency, factory defaults, firmware upgrades,

Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

2016-06-15 Thread David
when its free its not easy.. Got to work for it LOL Im linux all the way so not an issue of easy or hard just a little time to set up. On 06/15/2016 10:06 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: Doesn't fit into the 'easy' requirement, but you might find https://www.elastic.co/products/logstash

Re: [AFMUG] Weird 450 SM

2016-06-15 Thread TJ Burbank
I have had 3 radios do this exact same thing but could never bring them back to life. Working 1 days the next not registering. AP Eval showed nothing, SA showed energy on AP frequency, factory defaults, firmware upgrades, etc... Still nothing. How long did you let SA run before switching it off?

[AFMUG] Cambium epmp 1000 stock

2016-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Who has shipping stock on these dual band units? Thanks Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] camping....campsites

2016-06-15 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Jay, What type of pipe are you feeding the connection with? I realize I am not answering your question . Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

2016-06-15 Thread Josh Baird
.. or just use Graylog2 which again doesn't fall into the 'easy' requirement. On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: > Doesn't fit into the 'easy' requirement, but you might find > https://www.elastic.co/products/logstash interesting. You can combine it >

Re: [AFMUG] camping....campsites

2016-06-15 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
wifi too - Original Message - From: Chris Fabien To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] campingcampsites Are you providing a wifi system for them or just a pipe to the campground? On Jun 15, 2016 10:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"

Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

2016-06-15 Thread Simon Westlake
Doesn't fit into the 'easy' requirement, but you might find https://www.elastic.co/products/logstash interesting. You can combine it with https://www.elastic.co/products/kibana and https://www.elastic.co/products/elasticsearch to setup what is commonly referred to as the 'ELK' stack which can

Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

2016-06-15 Thread David
Couldnt remember that frontend we used but thats it. Run some Fail-to-ban action scripts on it and wallah you have an automated security system. Been doing this for a long time :) On 06/15/2016 09:43 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: rsyslog with loganalyzer as a 'front end':

Re: [AFMUG] Downtilt Calculator

2016-06-15 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I use this as a cheat for coverage data: http://www.proxim.com/products/knowledge-center/calculations/calculations-downtilt-coverage-radius ryan On 6/11/16 10:55 AM, David Milholen wrote: /I like this one/ /http://www.gyokovsolutions.com/G-NetTilt/G-NetTilt.html/ On 6/10/2016 12:37 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] camping....campsites

2016-06-15 Thread Chris Fabien
Are you providing a wifi system for them or just a pipe to the campground? On Jun 15, 2016 10:43 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > We have a few sites that are campgrounds. We are trying to standardize > and "upgrade" > What speed would you provide on average for a 50

Re: [AFMUG] Session Counts in ePMP

2016-06-15 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Brandon, As you grow you will need to move to something like Powercode. Knowing how your network works Powercode will really help you. You want to drop the monies now before you are so busy you can't stop to implement it. :) Before powercode: +1 on cacti.

Re: [AFMUG] easy logging server

2016-06-15 Thread D. Ryan Spott
rsyslog with loganalyzer as a 'front end': https://ciscoskills.net/2014/06/11/install-rsyslog-loganalyzer-on-centos-6-5/ The boss/spouse loves this. ryan On 6/14/16 11:06 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: what is an easy server to set up and get reports from for catching logs. I set

[AFMUG] camping....campsites

2016-06-15 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
We have a few sites that are campgrounds. We are trying to standardize and "upgrade" What speed would you provide on average for a 50 site campground? What about a 100 site? These are seasonal and right now we're trying to deliver 10x10 but by the time peak arrives average speed is down

Re: [AFMUG] OT: large copies of paper.

2016-06-15 Thread Kerry
A local electrician shop here has a large format printer/plotter. You might check with the electricians that design whole building electric service. On 6/14/2016 11:18 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I would recommend googling "blueprint scanning service", there's a lot of places you can ship the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: large copies of paper.

2016-06-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes, many times. Scanned lots of large D & E size drawings over the years and made many copies. From: Brandon Yuchasz Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 6:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: large copies of paper. Thanks everyone for the feedback. Not sure if we have any

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

2016-06-15 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Cisco has an OC-48 SPA that has modular optics… SPA-1XOC48-POS. I’ve seen this one in use before. > On Jun 15, 2016, at 5:08 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > Now that I think about it I am actually not sure I have ever seen a modular > SFP sized optic used for an OC-48, all

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

2016-06-15 Thread Mike Hammett
The platform will be available all the way down to 6 GHz. Watch the TBW videos from the shows to stay current on the platforms out there. The Trango interview is three months old now. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

2016-06-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Now that I think about it I am actually not sure I have ever seen a modular SFP sized optic used for an OC-48, all of the interfaces I've personally handled have the optic soldered onto the board. SC duplex connectors in the faceplate of, for example, a Juniper PB-OC48 in a FPC2.

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

2016-06-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I very much doubt that it's intended as OC-48 capacity SONET/SDH transport... Based on previous experience with the higher end Bridgewave products (1Gbps bridges) which have SFP ports, they do have a software/firmware option on the same platform to enable OC-3 and OC-12 functionality but very few

Re: [AFMUG] Trango StrataPro Xi

2016-06-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
FWIW, 2.5g optics came from the TDM world, typically used for OC-48 ports, and yes all of the major router platforms support it (not necessarily under ethernet). Then because of this, there were a lot of 'waves' fiber channels available, as in LH transport, for 2.5g. Today due to cost, ROI and