Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i AP + PacketFlux SBJ Aux

2017-01-03 Thread George Skorup
Yup, the sync pulse is present as you can see there in my screenshot. On 1/3/2017 9:07 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: No, it just means that if you sync the 450i via the timing port, the GPS status screen won't show up correctly. The sync itself works fine. On Tue, Jan 3, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i AP + PacketFlux SBJ Aux

2017-01-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
No, it just means that if you sync the 450i via the timing port, the GPS status screen won't show up correctly. The sync itself works fine. On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Jerry Head wrote: > Um, does this mean that when I hang my first 450i 900Mhz I cannot sync it >

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i AP + PacketFlux SBJ Aux

2017-01-03 Thread Jerry Head
Um, does this mean that when I hang my first 450i 900Mhz I cannot sync it my existing FSK gear? On 1/3/2017 3:40 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Cambium has a bug in serial receive in the 450i. I know it's on their to be fixed list. On Jan 3, 2017 12:45 PM, "George Skorup"

Re: [AFMUG] Infinite Electronics Acquires KP Performance Antennas

2017-01-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
L-Com/KP presents some interesting potential On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Must be these guys: > http://www.infiniteelectronics.com/ > > *From:* Timothy Steele > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:03 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Infinite

Re: [AFMUG] Infinite Electronics Acquires KP Performance Antennas

2017-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Must be these guys: http://www.infiniteelectronics.com/ From: Timothy Steele Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Infinite Electronics Acquires KP Performance Antennas

Re: [AFMUG] Infinite Electronics Acquires KP Performance Antennas

2017-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Have not heard of Infinite Electronics before. Not finding much on the google... There is an Infinite Electronics – Taiwan Linkedin say they make vacuum cleaners. From: Timothy Steele Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Infinite Electronics Acquires KP

Re: [AFMUG] Infinite Electronics Acquires KP Performance Antennas

2017-01-03 Thread Colin Stanners
Interesting, that company also owns Pasternack, Fairview and L-Com. KP has been doing very well (and is a nice Canadian success story), I hope this allows them to continue. On Jan 3, 2017 5:03 PM, "Timothy Steele" wrote: >

[AFMUG] Infinite Electronics Acquires KP Performance Antennas

2017-01-03 Thread Timothy Steele
http://www.antennasonline.com/main/news/infinite-electronics-acquires-kp-performance-antennas/

Re: [AFMUG] Pmp320 ap default

2017-01-03 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Yeah that's right. I remember being in the same situation. Cambium has a back-door password. Call them and have them remote in. Setup a keylogger first. Send it to me after the call ; ) On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > Radio is on the desk. Reset

Re: [AFMUG] Pmp320 ap default

2017-01-03 Thread Jon Langeler
Radio is on the desk. Reset plug only defaulted the IP Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Jan 3, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > > Climb up with reset plug or call into Cambium with RDP or teamviewer session. > They no longer support 320 platform,

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/3/17 13:24, Chuck McCown wrote: Interesting, motor driven knife switch. I guess it is fast enough to not arc too much. I wouldn't trust it over a contactor or static switch under load. Unloaded I guess it's cheap. But that's me, clearly I'm not a smartmeter designer. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Pmp320 ap default

2017-01-03 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Climb up with reset plug or call into Cambium with RDP or teamviewer session. They no longer support 320 platform, so they may tell you to fly a kite. On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > What do you do when the AP IP address defaults but not the

[AFMUG] Pmp320 ap default

2017-01-03 Thread Jon Langeler
What do you do when the AP IP address defaults but not the login password? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i AP + PacketFlux SBJ Aux

2017-01-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Cambium has a bug in serial receive in the 450i. I know it's on their to be fixed list. On Jan 3, 2017 12:45 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > I just got some of the SyncBox Junior Aux port version in and I connected > it up to a 900 450i AP running 15.0.2. Turned on UGPS power,

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Interesting, motor driven knife switch. I guess it is fast enough to not arc too much. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQdeLQqaStA

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Tyler Treat
oh yeah, and time of day billing. carrots and sticks, etc. From: Af on behalf of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question Ssssh! You’re

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQdeLQqaStA -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 2:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question On 1/3/17 12:26, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Why can it not

[AFMUG] ePMP+FSK co-lo

2017-01-03 Thread George Skorup
First time I've tried this. I have a site with two 5750APs. They are quite obviously overloading the receiver on the ePMP GPS AP. Put numbers in the co-lo spreadsheet, timing checks out. Running the ePMP in the 5.4 band. Still works for shit. This is a very compact micro-pop, so we have SMs

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/3/17 12:26, Ken Hohhof wrote: Why can it not be an electromechanical relay, maybe a latching type? http://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/features/residential-electricity-meter-disconnect-relay I would expect at 200 amps either a contactor or SCR because of the risk of contact welding,

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown
SSRs for AC normally have a triac for switching which is a bidirectional SCR. In any event, it has pretty low on resistance but you still have to heat sink them for any decent amount of current. Perhaps the smart meter has a way to get the heat out of the switch. I would think it would not be

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i AP + PacketFlux SBJ Aux

2017-01-03 Thread George Skorup
The receiver info section at the bottom is part of the serial data. I'm not sure why it would see that and nothing else. But that is Motorola binary format. And I remember Forrest saying something about the 450i not liking that. It'd be nice to have a jumper or something on the SyncBox to

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Why can it not be an electromechanical relay, maybe a latching type? http://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/features/residential-electricity-meter-disconnect-relay -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 2:09 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Nate Burke
He also said they're required to take pictures of the empty socket before they put the new meter on. The fires that have made the news are because of bent/loose contacts in the meter base. On 1/3/2017 2:11 PM, Bill Prince wrote: SSRs (Solid State Relays). These can be pretty robust in my

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/3/17 11:12, Nate Burke wrote: I just happened to be at a property today where they were install a new smartmeter. The Tech confirmed that they do have the ability to cut to the power to the house from the meter. Must have SCRs in it then. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Ssssh! You're supposed to pretend it's about making the grid more resilient and offering futuristic features to the ratepayers. You can't just blurt out the real reasons like that. Now they're going to have to bring in a PR team to clean up your mess, maybe tell us it was swamp gas and

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i AP + PacketFlux SBJ Aux

2017-01-03 Thread Bill Prince
Is it possible the sync pulse is working, but the serial data is not? On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 11:46 AM, George Skorup wrote: I just got some of the SyncBox Junior Aux port version in and I connected it up to a 900 450i AP running 15.0.2. Turned on UGPS power,

[AFMUG] PMP450i AP + PacketFlux SBJ Aux

2017-01-03 Thread George Skorup
I just got some of the SyncBox Junior Aux port version in and I connected it up to a 900 450i AP running 15.0.2. Turned on UGPS power, box powers up. Pretty cool. But still no GPS data. Turn off GPS message checksum and it still doesn't work, the receiver info section just gets all corrupt.

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 SMs

2017-01-03 Thread Josh Luthman
It's cute to see PMP450 catching up with ePMP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > 40 Mbps key with the latest firmware...for the 20 Meg price. I have

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 SMs

2017-01-03 Thread Timothy Steele
The 450d is better with a dish there is a little RF that falls off the back of a reflector dish with the 450d being inner feed you get rid of that issue resulting in much better performance even if you swap a dish for a 450d and signal stays the same you will still see better link caps from the

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Tyler Treat
I thought that was the point? Remote on/off and shitcan all their meter readers From: Af on behalf of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 SMs

2017-01-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
40 Mbps key with the latest firmware...for the 20 Meg price. I have a number of Cambium customer's that have settled on the 450d as their primary SM of choice. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Jan 3, 2017, at

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 SMs

2017-01-03 Thread George Skorup
The 450d is pretty much the same gain as a standard SM + 27RD style reflector. Maybe 1dB better. The 450d board is exactly the same as a standard SM. Integrated patch and all. The only difference is in software. It's locked to 24 or 25dBi total antenna system gain. The new wideband 5GHz SM

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 SMs

2017-01-03 Thread Josh Luthman
I've heard some reports that there's a 1-3 dbi difference between one and the other. I think it's the same in the grand scheme of things. The biggest thing is the 450d comes with a better license. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] RouterOS License question

2017-01-03 Thread Josh Luthman
License is tied to the serial of the disk. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > That's what I was hoping. > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Nate Burke
I just happened to be at a property today where they were install a new smartmeter. The Tech confirmed that they do have the ability to cut to the power to the house from the meter. On 1/3/2017 9:42 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Good news: would probably trip the breaker Bad news: probably not

[AFMUG] PMP450 SMs

2017-01-03 Thread Peter Kranz
I have not bought PMP450 SMs in some time.. we had a stock of PMP450 SMs w/ RCL-2 dishes.. We estimated an overall system gain of 25 dbi. The PMP450d spec sheet indicates 25 dbi as well. Has anyone compared the PMP450+RCL-2 with a PMP450d and can quickly comment on gain differences.

Re: [AFMUG] Question Regarding 11ghz Links.

2017-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Any idea who's waveguide transition they are using? Dual Pol N to Circular I presume, would have to be. -Original Message- From: Daniel White Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Question Regarding 11ghz Links. I'm way late to this... but

Re: [AFMUG] Question Regarding 11ghz Links.

2017-01-03 Thread Daniel White
I'm way late to this... but that is an all indoor installation most likely. They are using waveguide to the antenna (note the fixed losses on each side of the link). 3dB loss per side is the equivalent of losing an antenna size. I'd also assume this link was engineered to 99.%

Re: [AFMUG] RouterOS License question

2017-01-03 Thread Adam Moffett
That's what I was hoping. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 1/3/2017 10:26:39 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RouterOS License question As long as the "disk" didn't change your license will persist. Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Mirotik help - dual backhauls and bridges

2017-01-03 Thread Justin Wilson
The VLAN method does work. You can also do a full duplex link utilizing two sets of radios. This has been around for quite some time. But that also assumes you have radios of the same relative capacity. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting

Re: [AFMUG] Mirotik help - dual backhauls and bridges

2017-01-03 Thread Adam Moffett
What Eric said. Except, I believe you said the two links were of unequal capacity. OSPF can't natively load balance unequal paths. If you set them to equal cost, you'll actually get 2x the capacity of the smaller link, and the larger link will be underutilized. There was a trick somebody

Re: [AFMUG] OT - new Apprentice catchphrase(s)

2017-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Just trying to pump us up. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 9:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - new Apprentice catchphrase(s) When Austria sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re bringing barbells. They’re bringing steroids. They’re

Re: [AFMUG] OT - new Apprentice catchphrase(s)

2017-01-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
When Austria sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re bringing barbells. They’re bringing steroids. They’re bodybuilders. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 10:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT -

Re: [AFMUG] OT - new Apprentice catchphrase(s)

2017-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown
You won’t be back From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT - new Apprentice catchphrase(s) You’re terminated, now get to the choppa! Is it too late to choose Arnold for President and Donald for Celebrity Apprentice? Seriously. I mean

[AFMUG] OT - new Apprentice catchphrase(s)

2017-01-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
You're terminated, now get to the choppa! Is it too late to choose Arnold for President and Donald for Celebrity Apprentice? Seriously. I mean it would probably be bad for Apprentice, but priorities?

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Good news: would probably trip the breaker Bad news: probably not fast enough More bad news: that kind of voltage would probably arc right across the opening breaker contacts Maybe there's a fuse for that. Like the ones up on poles that you reset with a hot stick. -Original

Re: [AFMUG] RouterOS License question

2017-01-03 Thread Josh Luthman
As long as the "disk" didn't change your license will persist. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Trey Scarborough wrote: > On 1/3/2017 5:32 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >> I just backed up

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown
I doubt it. Much more energy involved when a primary gets into a secondary. Not short duration impulses like lightning. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question Would one of those

Re: [AFMUG] We don't need no stinkin' nuclear fusion.....or to burn fossil fuels for that matter.

2017-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown
I have seen this around for a while. Not understanding why they use PV to extract the energy at 20% conversion rate where thermal extraction will be close to 100%. Smacks of quakery when “dark matter” is invoked. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:04 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Don’t let the interns near it. OK, never mind, they’re easily replaced. And no issues disposing of the body, that machine will probably vaporize the evidence, just make sure you have an exhaust fan. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Chuck McCown
Not quite, 4000 volts at 150 amps with a specific waveform on the pulse. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question I don't know if you've seen a show called "White Rabbit Project". Episode 1 features Tory

[AFMUG] We don't need no stinkin' nuclear fusion.....or to burn fossil fuels for that matter.

2017-01-03 Thread Rory Conaway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siHCRp7TpoU There is a little bit of controversy here but they are going to field test this year and release product in 2018. This could be a game changer. Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542

Re: [AFMUG] RouterOS License question

2017-01-03 Thread Trey Scarborough
On 1/3/2017 5:32 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I just backed up and restored a RouterOS virtual machine. Is there a way to just confirm that the license is still valid? Go to System License in winbox or ssh /system license print

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

2017-01-03 Thread Adam Moffett
I don't know if you've seen a show called "White Rabbit Project". Episode 1 features Tory Belleci from Mythbusters standing on top of a Tesla coil wearing a chain mail suit and shooting lightning at stuff while cackling madly. I suggest something similar for your lightning impulse

[AFMUG] RouterOS License question

2017-01-03 Thread Adam Moffett
I just backed up and restored a RouterOS virtual machine. Is there a way to just confirm that the license is still valid?