Re: [AFMUG] Just in time

2017-07-18 Thread Jay Weekley
I figured you would have zip lined down a guy wire. Jaime Solorza wrote: Was on tower when I spotted this heading our way...off I go...put tools away quickly and loaded gear in truck...10 minutes later it hit with lightning , wind and rain... Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Just in time

2017-07-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hairs on my arms as detector have worked well so far Jaime Solorza On Jul 18, 2017 7:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I had a storm scope (sferics) that displayed on a moving map in an > airplane. > > It was OK I guess, you could see the storm with your eyes just about as >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

2017-07-18 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

2017-07-18 Thread Steve Jones
we are a Motorola user group roun here tho, you best get with the program On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Hi Donnie, > > Which model of the Radwin Radios are you using ? > > > Regards. > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

2017-07-18 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hi Donnie, Which model of the Radwin Radios are you using ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] OT wages

2017-07-18 Thread Steve Jones
MIT just announced "audit" ... this is a big deal Your boy will do fine, who needs buying power when your dad has paydays (you still have paydays?) On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > One of my son’s finished his college education today. He “graduated” a >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

2017-07-18 Thread Mathew Howard
We're always kind aren't we? On Jul 18, 2017 6:36 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > Well the first days are the hardest days, don't you worry any more, > 'Cause when life looks like Easy Street, there is danger at your door. > Think this through with me, let me know your

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

2017-07-18 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hmm lots of options... Not sure what your limitations are.. 1) Yes, shorter the distance, better the uptime , less the rain fade. 24ghz or 80ghz or even 60ghz (***) 2) Don't count out the 2.5G Metrolinq with lR Brackets, especially if you are looking at sub 1mile link. 3) you can always

Re: [AFMUG] Just in time

2017-07-18 Thread Chuck McCown
I had a storm scope (sferics) that displayed on a moving map in an airplane. It was OK I guess, you could see the storm with your eyes just about as good. But then when Nexrad radar became available, I never looked at the storm scope data again. The radar is soo good. Red== Dead,

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy CMM3 Synced with PacketFlux SyncInjector

2017-07-18 Thread George Skorup
This backwards? http://manuals.packetflux.com/index.php?page=using-a-cmm-or-canopy-radio-as-a-sync-source I'm remembering something about the CMM3 to CMM3 wanting pins 1 and 6 reversed on one side. Or maybe that was the CMM2. I haven't used a CMM in like 10 years. On 7/18/2017 7:04 PM, Matt

Re: [AFMUG] Just in time

2017-07-18 Thread Chuck McCown
I know that TV and FM transmitters (some of them, Harris for one) have options for equipment that can detect a strike on their tower and disconnect the transmitter before the strike gets to it. Those high power transmitters use a circulator hybrid of thing that will send the RF to a dummy

Re: [AFMUG] Just in time

2017-07-18 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Among the things which have reached proof of concept stage but I haven't developed further is a lightning detector which uses a commodity distance-to-strike IC to provide lighting data via SNMP and Web. I glanced at my list and it's in the pile of stuff to do after the next generation of base

Re: [AFMUG] Just in time

2017-07-18 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
You need one of these: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps=lightning+detector On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Was on tower when I spotted this heading our way...off I go...put tools > away quickly and loaded gear

Re: [AFMUG] Just in time

2017-07-18 Thread David Milholen
Here is what ya need https://create.arduino.cc/projecthub/runtimeprojects/a-lightning-detector-for-arduino-9f679c I have a few of these guys in play doing my tower light monitoring and control at our sites. I got a little inquisitive about how to detect lightning before it hits and with

Re: [AFMUG] DIY DDoS box with iptables?

2017-07-18 Thread Paul Stewart
I guess it depends on what you are trying to accomplish here …. are you looking to scrub the traffic clean or just block dirty traffic? How will you determine what traffic is dirty and apply rules on the fly? Sorry - many questions come to mind here and don’t mean to sound negative but it

Re: [AFMUG] DIY DDoS box with iptables?

2017-07-18 Thread Mike Hammett
First find your scrubbing platform of choice, then build whatever they support. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Dev" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July

[AFMUG] OT wages

2017-07-18 Thread Chuck McCown
One of my son’s finished his college education today. He “graduated” a few months back, but had some classes to finish. And part way through the summer semester he discovered he still needed one more. It was RF design. And it was being taught at the same time as another class he needed.

[AFMUG] Canopy CMM3 Synced with PacketFlux SyncInjector

2017-07-18 Thread Matt
Is there a simple way to take the daisy chain sync output from a PacketFlux SyncInjector and provide sync to a Canopy CMM3?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

2017-07-18 Thread Steve Jones
Well the first days are the hardest days, don't you worry any more, 'Cause when life looks like Easy Street, there is danger at your door. Think this through with me, let me know your mind, Wo, oh, what I want to know, is are you kind? On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

2017-07-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Jump on in. Water is fine...Radwin? There are several thousand Radwins 4.9GHz links for surveillance at intersections and buildings across in Cd. Juarez installed by Israeli and Mexican team ...I did site survey with armed Federal police back in 2006. Took four days... Jaime Solorza On Jul

[AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

2017-07-18 Thread chuck
Welcome Donnie the Radwin user to the list. Please be kind From: Donnie McCorkle Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:11 PM To: ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product Compatibility Gotcha, I'm getting emails from the list now. Thanks again, didn't expect such a quick reply.

Re: [AFMUG] DIY DDoS box with iptables?

2017-07-18 Thread Josh Baird
Sounds like a job for your providers. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Dev wrote: > What is the feasibility of building a DDoS protection box out of a bare > Linux server running a dual-10G/40G NIC inline with iptables handling junk > traffic, and then a third eth for

[AFMUG] DIY DDoS box with iptables?

2017-07-18 Thread Dev
What is the feasibility of building a DDoS protection box out of a bare Linux server running a dual-10G/40G NIC inline with iptables handling junk traffic, and then a third eth for management? Seems like the 10G/40G card could help scrub traffic before it hits your core? Has anyone built one?

Re: [AFMUG] AM Tower vs Cell site

2017-07-18 Thread Jerry Head
Within 100 feet will probably be inside the radials. So a no go I would think. On 7/17/2017 4:10 PM, George Skorup wrote: The cell tower can become a radiator or director of the AM transmitter/antenna system and distort their pattern. It needs engineering and will typically get detuning

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product Compatibility

2017-07-18 Thread chuck
They merged... (Radwin) From: Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product Compatibility Radwin or Raytheon? :) On Tuesday, July 18, 2017, Chuck McCown wrote: Anyone use our stuff with Radeon? Sent from

Re: [AFMUG] Alternate Trango Apex Plus power supply?

2017-07-18 Thread George Skorup
That Trango 5830 stuff worked great for a long time. But in all honesty, the greatest thing was that it used the same POE polarity and voltage as Canopy. Because we simply couldn't put up any more of it without frequency reuse and GPS sync. On 7/18/2017 10:14 AM, John Seaman wrote: Trango

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT question

2017-07-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
OLT is UPC, ONT is APC. This is the standard from most OLT/ONT I've seen deployed in North America. On Jul 18, 2017 4:39 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > The OLTs are UPC from what I've read. > > On 7/18/2017 3:39 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > > We got a Beta in of the UBNT OLT

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT question

2017-07-18 Thread George Skorup
The OLTs are UPC from what I've read. On 7/18/2017 3:39 PM, Paul McCall wrote: We got a Beta in of the UBNT OLT that came with an SC SFP (blue pop up tab) that I assumed was APC. Even though the ONT is APC (Green) I know they could be different on each end and ordered some SC APC � SC

[AFMUG] UBNT OLT question

2017-07-18 Thread Paul McCall
We got a Beta in of the UBNT OLT that came with an SC SFP (blue pop up tab) that I assumed was APC. Even though the ONT is APC (Green) I know they could be different on each end and ordered some SC APC - SC UPC cables by assumption. uf-gp-B+ is the SFP that is included and I can't seem to

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product Compatibility

2017-07-18 Thread Adam Moffett
Send me one and I'll test it with a Radwin 2000 :) or I guess if were sending a sample it would make more sense to send it to that guy. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 7/18/2017 2:57:54 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product

Re: [AFMUG] Astronomers don't know what's causing these weird radio waves from a…

2017-07-18 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Which is kind of BS, since technically according to ham radio rules you can't operate crypto of any sort on ham radio bands, but most modern 802.11n/802.11ac 5100 to 6000 MHz capable radios (Mikrotiks which will ignore the US country code, for example) will not even form a link unless you're using

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product Compatibility

2017-07-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Video cards? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:57:54 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product Compatibility

2017-07-18 Thread Adair Winter
I've never used the mentioned module, but we do use the Radwin 5000 JET radios with other MTC modules and they have been fine. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Radwin or Raytheon? :) > > On Tuesday, July 18, 2017, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Astronomers don't know what's causing these weird radio waves from a…

2017-07-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
Found it. They were forced to remove it by the FCC in 2014-ish. If you can provide documentation to UBNT authorizing use, they can send you firmware with it enabled. On Jul 18, 2017 2:29 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > There was a big huffpuff about this awhile back. I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Astronomers don't know what's causing these weird radio waves from a…

2017-07-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
There was a big huffpuff about this awhile back. I'm pretty sure the end result was that they were pissed that it was not longer available. There's a thread somewhere, too lazy to dig it up on mobile. On Jul 18, 2017 12:45 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > Ham radio

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product Compatibility

2017-07-18 Thread Jason McKemie
Radwin or Raytheon? :) On Tuesday, July 18, 2017, Chuck McCown wrote: > Anyone use our stuff with Radeon? > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* "Donnie McCorkle" > > *Date:*

[AFMUG] Fwd: Inquiry: Product Compatibility

2017-07-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Anyone use our stuff with Radeon? Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "Donnie McCorkle" > Date: July 18, 2017 at 12:48:17 PM MDT > To: "sa...@wbmfg.com" > Subject: Inquiry: Product Compatibility > > Hello, > > I am wondering if you

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

2017-07-18 Thread Carl Peterson
Our experience with Siklu is that their link calculator is pretty accurate. For repeater setups, I like multiple interfaces on the 2X00 radios for so I can create separate A-B-C and A-C connections when doing a repeater setup. This is missing on the 5500s. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Mike

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

2017-07-18 Thread Sean Heskett
yes the siklu's are a good idea. you can calculate the paths here: http://lbc.siklu.com/home.php On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > So we have a link that's around ~1.7 miles running on an airFiber24, which > we needs to be upgraded to something

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

2017-07-18 Thread Mike Hammett
You should be good. https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/1152763711515746 based on math in: https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/956205354504917 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original

Re: [AFMUG] Astronomers don't know what's causing these weird radio waves from a…

2017-07-18 Thread chuck
Yep, they can also install beacons and in some bands up to 1kW. From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]Astronomers don't know what's causing these weird radio waves from a… Ham radio operators are allowed test mode in US On Mon, Jul

Re: [AFMUG] Astronomers don't know what's causing these weird radio waves from a…

2017-07-18 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Ham radio operators are allowed test mode in US On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > You know that's not a thing anymore for US sold gear right? Do you have a > naughty neighbor? > > > > On Jul 17, 2017 4:50 PM, "Steve Jones"

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

2017-07-18 Thread Rory Conaway
Siklu is a good idea and a good price. Cablefree is another one, more expensive but can go to 10Gbps. RFcom is another vendor. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:31 AM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links So we have a link

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap

2017-07-18 Thread Chris Wright
ePMP might make sense to build in a new area, but when you have 100+ clients in a single 90 degree sector, replacing your triple-stacked PMP450 APs with a single 450M, saving 40MHz of spectrum, offering faster speeds, AND not having to swap 100+ radios feels mighty nice. Chris Wright

[AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

2017-07-18 Thread Mathew Howard
So we have a link that's around ~1.7 miles running on an airFiber24, which we needs to be upgraded to something faster (looking for more than 1 gig), ideally with less rain fade... We happen to have another tower, which is almost exactly half way between, so I could split the distance in half. My

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 ~50mbps cap

2017-07-18 Thread Adam Moffett
I've had ePMP's do some weird things here and there, like refusing to reboot or accept config changes. Nothing a power cycle didn't fix. I've had to power cycle a PMP100 or 450 to fix a problem approximately zero times. I know a neighbor who had a tower hit by lightning an ePMP and a

Re: [AFMUG] Alternate Trango Apex Plus power supply?

2017-07-18 Thread John Seaman
Trango is alive and well although there is not much going on there in terms of new products. It was time for me to move on. After focusing only on microwave for the last few years I am loving being back in the ptmp game! Nice to be with a company with a lot of great product lines and more to

Re: [AFMUG] Alternate Trango Apex Plus power supply?

2017-07-18 Thread Dustin Jurman
It’s like when Vader came back to the force. DSJ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alternate Trango Apex Plus power supply? Oh. oh I see Didn’t catch that the first time around.

Re: [AFMUG] Alternate Trango Apex Plus power supply?

2017-07-18 Thread chuck
I hear they were abducted... From: Joe Novak Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alternate Trango Apex Plus power supply? Can we start talking conspiracy about Trango yet? Because they kinda seem. MIA. Which is scary considering how many Lynx we have

Re: [AFMUG] Alternate Trango Apex Plus power supply?

2017-07-18 Thread Joe Novak
Can we start talking conspiracy about Trango yet? Because they kinda seem. MIA. Which is scary considering how many Lynx we have deployed. On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:47 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Maybe... more $? > > > On 7/17/2017 10:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz)

2017-07-18 Thread Rory Conaway
Yea, typo. Thanks for pointing that out so eloquently. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz) #savage From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On

Re: [AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz)

2017-07-18 Thread Andy Trimmell
#savage From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz) Rogue vs. rouge A rogue is (1) a scoundrel, (2) a vicious or solitary animal, or (3) a fraudulent

Re: [AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz)

2017-07-18 Thread Bill Prince
Rogue vs. rouge A*rogue*is (1) a scoundrel, (2) a vicious or solitary animal, or (3) a fraudulent piece of software. The word is also anadjective meaning/vicious and solitary/.*Rouge*is a pinkish color or a reddish powder. It’s also averb