Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

I am starting to hate the obsession with speedtests. Recently we cut the burst from 100 MBytes to about 6 MBytes (actually 8 seconds worth) at one tower while doubling everyone’s sustained speeds. Previously this tower had Trango APs and the highest burst speed you could get was about 8 Mbps,

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

That's true but I'm saying that customers won't understand you can reduce it from 10h to 2h if you upgrade. Even if the few that understand were aware, they wouldn't shell out the extra money. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

Today's Pearls Before Swine comic may be applicable: http://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2015/09/30 -Original Message- From: Andy Trimmell Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 11:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

Bingo, I was considering a fiber deployment recently and did some market research. Very few were willing to pay even $50 for 50Mbs. Canceled project. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 9:47 AM Simon Westlake wrote: > Is 85% of the country unable to get 50Mbps or unwilling to pay for

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

Depends where they are. If they have cable modem or good DSL in the area, perhaps not. If they have no cable and crappy DSL they do pay that much. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

I have serious doubts that most people could even tell the difference between 10mbps and 50mbps without running a speedtest (aside from large downloads)... They just need to run speedtests constantly to make sure their evil ISP isn't cheating them. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

I really don't believe they'd notice a difference in large downloads. All they do is start it and walk away. I believe it's a line - a few seconds and I can use it or minutes/hours+ so they come back to it later. Fiber company down here in Dayton started up and just got their first condo/rental

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

True, the only thing they'll notice with large downloads is that it says it's going to take 2 hours instead of 10 hours... realistically, it's probably not going to make any difference, since they'll just go to bed and it'll be done when they look at it again either way. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

Ah, yeah, good point. That's very true. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > That's true but I'm saying that customers won't understand you can reduce > it from 10h to 2h if you upgrade. Even if the few that understand were > aware, they wouldn't

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

But if you tell them they can pay an extra $10 a month and it'll finish in an hour, they'll most likely say "he can wait" ...or the son might call up and whine that they shouldn't have to pay that much because they're already paying more than his friend (who happens to live in the middle a major

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

The one I just got recently was "My son says the internet is too slow, All his friends have already downloaded the new Call of Duty Game, and are playing it, and he's still waiting for it to download, and it says it still has 5 hours left!" On 9/30/2015 2:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: Ah,

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

My suspicion is that people observe that something doesn't work or something is loading slowly. Then they run the speed test and find a reason not to like what they see. I think some folks run the speed test while their video is buffering and don't understand that while video is buffering,

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

With the speed package (I can pull up to 150Mbps down, but evening get 65Mbps or so) I have I can’t think of anything that has taken 2 hours to download… and realistically the servers are going to be your bottleneck anyways Thank you, Daniel White

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[http://www.speedtest.net/result/4706097948.png] From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 7:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country? This was a speedtest taken by one of my customers

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

15% of the country speed tests a greater than 52 mbps (down only I'm assuming). That includes a bunch of fiber customers I'm sure. The problem is the statistic of how many live in major cities - I think 97% of the population lives in a metro area? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

Is 85% of the country unable to get 50Mbps or unwilling to pay for it? 50Mbps is towards the top end of what TWC offers to residential customers around here, and I would be willing to be the majority take a cheaper package. On 9/30/2015 9:45 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

[AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

This was a speedtest taken by one of my customers this morning. The thing that surprised me was the 85% number. I'm not sure of the source of the data but if that's correct, then there is a huge opportunity that we all need to be looking at. In this case, it's a lowly Nanostation Loco M5 to

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

50 Mbps CIR... This is starting to become an issue at the FCC. When they are trying to allocate welfare funds (aka USF and CAF) they are trying to decide who is worthy. Folks with FTTH say that CIR has to be the standard. Anyone can do 50 Mbps MIR with a variety of low cost options these

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

I totally agree! There are huge areas of opportunity for wireless to get these speeds into the country and 'level up'. I think one of the bottlenecks is still getting that backhaul and middle mile fiber connectivity for cheaper to feed this. If the FCC could open more PTP frequency space in

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

Just got this. and yes this is my home internet connection I wonder what speed you need to get about the 85% benchmark. Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social:

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

More PTP spectrum in lower bands? Why??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > I totally agree! > > > > There are huge areas of opportunity for wireless

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

Penetration and near or no line of site PTP links. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country? More PTP spectrum in lower bands? Why???

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Oh I guess low is a relative word. I was thinking 1 GHz, 3 GHz, etc Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 30, 2015 12:50 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Long hops at high capacities? Something sub 10 GHz where you

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

Long hops at high capacities? Something sub 10 GHz where you can do something like 100 MHz channels. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

On 9/30/15 09:45, Sterling Jacobson wrote: If the FCC could open more PTP frequency space in the lower bands and make licensing more available, it would totally change things. Part 101 is already easy IMO, what's the problem? ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

Even though mine was slower than others on the download I got mine to 99% my guess is because of upload. WHAT IS THIS? Based on the currently displayed results, connection grades show how you stack up with others in your country and around the world. For example if your value is 77% (giving you a

Re: [AFMUG] 50mbps is faster than 85% of the rest of the country?

I dunno where the space is, but we probably can't be too picky with where we're looking for licensed PtP space at large enough channels. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman"