: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
That we have announced, of course.
Of course we also don't announce radios then don't have inventory for 6 months
either. We don't even talk roadmap under NDA for things that are less than a
realistic 6 months out.
FYI
*Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM
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licensed
radio currently
yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the
threshold
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*Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 7:52:04 AM
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currently
Yeah it's getting a bit crowded even in markets that you'd think would be
pretty open. Not bad yet but getting there. 10 years from now we'll
: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
Yeah it's getting a bit crowded even in markets that you'd think would be
pretty open. Not bad yet but getting there. 10 years from now we'll be in
rocking chairs remembering the good old days when there were open channel
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From: Caleb Knauer via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:31:34 AM
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I just threw up in my mouth a little.
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9
] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
What's the top 3 fastest single radio's available right now? I'm assuming it
will be 80mhz and 2048qam+?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014
I don't have the calcs handy atm but it was calculated 5x9 at 2048QAM.
Short link though, 3.5 miles with 3'/4' dishes, RSL low 30's. Quite
aware of how quick 2048 will drop down, and 80mhz channels would have
given more wiggle room to drop rates and still maintain 1Gbps but
there was a time
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
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We just put
*From: *Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
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*Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM
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radio currently
A question on your list:
Cambium PTP820c with 80mhz channels, 1024QAM(~$23k)
Ceragon IP20c, 60mhz channels, 2048QAM (I think this is about $35k?)
These are the same radios right? So I assume the PTP820c can do 2048QAM as
well..? but it sounds like its being offered for a lower price than the
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio
currently
yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the threshold required to
run at 2048QAM vs. when it will step down to 256QAM and no longer be a 1
Gbps radio?
If I recall right an IP20C requires an RSSI of something
...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:42 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio
currently
What's the top 3 fastest single radio's available right now? I'm assuming
it will be 80mhz and 2048qam
There are a large number of possible software licenses available for
these platforms that can really move the price around. Some are
needed, others unlikely for most of our applications. Hard to compare
like for like without a side by side BOM comparison.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Bill
Nothing is more rage inducing than the term software license
Sent from my portable confuser
On Oct 29, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
There are a large number of possible software licenses available for
these platforms that can really move the price around. Some
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Right. The price was meant as a very rough estimate. Quantity discounts
from vendors and different feature sets can change those prices quite a
bit too.
Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net
530.272.4000
On 10/29/2014 11:43 AM, Caleb Knauer via Af wrote:
There are a large number
I agree to an extent, however there are some cases where I think it
makes sense. For a platform that's a few $k, totally agree. But some
of these high end systems support a ton of telco/celco derived
features that are not part of the standard transport feature set we
care about and that we'll
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig
licensed
radio currently
yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the
threshold
required to run at 2048QAM vs. when it will step down
Cambium PTP820c
Exalt ExtremeAir
Both will give you 1gig in a single radio.
Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net
530.272.4000
On 10/27/2014 03:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the best
bargain?
*Peter Kranz
We just put up a Ceragon IP20c link last week, 3.5 miles, one 60Mhz
frequency pair, 1030Mbps full duplex using 2048QAM, uses two cores
(same frequency) in a single FODU chasis and a combiner on the
antenna. Looks like any other single FODU install, very clean. Not
inexpensive however.
On Tue,
The SAF links were around $15k-16k with dishes and accessories etc (I
think, I don't buy stuff I just make it work)
Again, call a distributor or Daniel at SAF :)
On Monday, October 27, 2014, Keefe John via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
what's their pricing?
Keefe
On 10/27/2014 5:45 PM, Darin
99% of the time it will be at max modulation. Offering lots of cheaper
bandwidth compared to cellular hotspots fits many wisp business models...
-Jon
On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the threshold required
: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the threshold required to run
at 2048QAM vs. when it will step down to 256QAM and no longer be a 1 Gbps
radio?
If I recall right
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*Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio
currently
yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the threshold
required to run at 2048QAM vs. when it will step down to 256QAM
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*Sent: *Tuesday, October 28, 2014 5:22:08 PM
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Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the best
bargain?
Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
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Alcoma has the lowest cost per meg.
On Monday, October 27, 2014, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the best
bargain?
*Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
Desk: 510-868-1614
Distance?
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Oct 27, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Peter Kranz via Af
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the best bargain?
Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.comhttp://www.unwiredltd.com/
we just installed two SAF integra 2+0 links in 18Ghz. It's 2 radio pairs
per link and they do their own link aggregation. you license two 60Mhz
channels one V and one H. it's technically 948Mbps without compression
(compression can get you the extra 52Mbps if you really want to split hairs)
we
Hey Sean, what distance do you get out of them? Size antennas?
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
we just installed two SAF integra 2+0 links in 18Ghz. It's 2 radio pairs
per link and they do their own link aggregation. you license two
what's their pricing?
Keefe
On 10/27/2014 5:45 PM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote:
Alcoma has the lowest cost per meg.
On Monday, October 27, 2014, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the
best bargain?
Distance is 2.6 miles..
Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the best
bargain?
Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
will e-band work @ 2.6 miles with 2ft antennas and full tx power? (i.e. not
siklu?)?
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Distance is 2.6 miles..
Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the best
bargain?
*Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO
Depends a great deal on where you are and the maximum mm/hour rain rate
expected. That's 4.18 km. I would do it with +19 Tx power radios, very
stable mounts, 60cm dishes and very precise aiming. But only with a 5.x GHz
link (Nanobeam M5-400 or similar) installed in parallel on a higher OSPF
cost.
For 24 GHz, the Trango Stratalink24 will also work. Your pricing may vary
depending on your relationship with Trango. It can operate in a two dish,
two OMT, four radio head configuration for 1.5 Gbps full duplex (1024QAM,
100 MHz wide channel if I remember right). One link is 750 Mbps.
Could save
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*Sent: *Monday, October 27, 2014 9:24:12 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio
currently
For 24 GHz, the Trango Stratalink24 will also work. Your pricing may vary
depending on your relationship with Trango. It can operate in a two dish,
two OMT, four
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To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:31:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio currently
correct, two dishes total
two OMT, one on each dish. the OMT is the T-shaped orthomode transducer that
separates the H V wavelengths.
the radio
: *Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, October 27, 2014 9:24:12 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cheapest Full duplex / Full Gig licensed radio
currently
For 24 GHz, the Trango Stratalink24 will also work. Your pricing may vary
depending on your relationship with Trango
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