Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Chuck McCown
There are a few I think. Something to do with WAAS. Or perhaps the geosynchronous birds are just transmitting WAAS corrections. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 6:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing GPS isn't geosynchronous. - Mike Hammett

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2015-08-12 Thread Chuck McCown
To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing Ok, if you really want to know, I finally found a (somewhat data) document which describes this in semi-understandable terms. And yes, the real time does fall out of the equations (see watch error - which is how fast or slow your reference clock is). http

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread George Skorup
11:39 AM *To:* af mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing You need an accurate 3d position to get accurate timing. To have an accurate 3d position using GPS alone, you need four satellites. Three only gets you a 2d lock, and less

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing You need an accurate 3d position to get accurate timing. To have an accurate 3d position using GPS alone, you need four satellites. Three only gets you a 2d lock, and less than that you don't get a lock at all. There are receivers out there which

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread George Skorup
Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:21:46 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing Not to mention that RF

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
] GPS Timing You need an accurate 3d position to get accurate timing. To have an accurate 3d position using GPS alone, you need four satellites. Three only gets you a 2d lock, and less than that you don't get a lock at all. There are receivers out there which will survey a position

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 2:08 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing That's what I thought too. Once one of these little beggars has been online for a half hour or more, the location should be set so to speak. I would then expect them to hold

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
, and without exploiting the proletariat photons. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:22 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing not to worry Comrade RF is universal Jaime Solorza Wireless

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
*To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing not to worry Comrade RF is universal Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:52 AM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Cambium is using a new receiver on the 450APs

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Shayne Lebrun
lazy capitalist RF, and without exploiting the proletariat photons. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:22 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing not to worry Comrade RF is universal Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Chuck McCown
Not to mention that RF was invented by the Soviets... From: Shayne Lebrun Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing Nyet, Tovarich. Superior SOVIET RF works four times as hard as any lazy capitalist RF, and without exploiting the proletariat

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:21:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing Not to mention that RF was invented by the Soviets... From: Shayne Lebrun Sent: Wednesday, August 12 , 2015 11:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing Nyet, Tovarich

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Josh Luthman
, August 12, 2015 11:36 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing Nyet, Tovarich. Superior SOVIET RF works four times as hard as any lazy capitalist RF, and without exploiting the proletariat photons. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Vlad Sedov
Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:22 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing not to worry Comrade RF is universal Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 tel:915-861-1390 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:52 AM, George Skorup geo

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
as any lazy capitalist RF, and without exploiting the proletariat photons. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:22 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing not to worry Comrade RF is universal Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Bill Prince
timing pulse with one satellite. *From:*Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com *Sent:*Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:39 AM *To:*af mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Bill Prince
PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing not to worry Comrade RF is universal Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 tel:915-861-1390 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:52 AM, George

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing You need an accurate 3d position to get accurate timing. To have an accurate 3d position using GPS alone, you need four satellites. Three only gets you a 2d lock, and less than that you don't get a lock at all. There are receivers out there which

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Shayne Lebrun
mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing You need an accurate 3d position to get accurate timing. To have an accurate 3d position using GPS alone, you need four satellites. Three only gets you a 2d lock, and less than that you don't get a lock at all. There are receivers out

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Mathew Howard
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:22 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing not to worry Comrade RF is universal Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:52 AM, George

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-12 Thread Bill Prince
. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:22 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing not to worry Comrade RF is universal Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:39 AM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing You need an accurate 3d position to get accurate timing. To have an accurate 3d position using GPS alone, you need four satellites. Three only gets you a 2d lock, and less than that you don't get a lock

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread George Skorup
. Two for sure. Three will give you a 2D fix and 4 will give you a 3D fix. -Original Message- From: Dan Petermann Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] GPS Timing What is the minimum amount of satellites needed for a proper GPS sync pulse? And does

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Bill Prince
alone. Two for sure. Three will give you a 2D fix and 4 will give you a 3D fix. -Original Message- From: Dan Petermann Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] GPS Timing What is the minimum amount of satellites needed for a proper GPS sync pulse

[AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Dan Petermann
What is the minimum amount of satellites needed for a proper GPS sync pulse? And does that differ across products (CMM, CTM, SyncPipe, etc.)?

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Chuck McCown
I don't know for certain, but I would think one satellite could do it for timing alone. Two for sure. Three will give you a 2D fix and 4 will give you a 3D fix. -Original Message- From: Dan Petermann Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] GPS

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Josh Luthman
. -Original Message- From: Dan Petermann Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] GPS Timing What is the minimum amount of satellites needed for a proper GPS sync pulse? And does that differ across products (CMM, CTM, SyncPipe, etc.)?

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Sean Heskett
should be able to calculate the delay and arrive at a pretty accurate timing pulse with one satellite. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:39 AM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing You need an accurate 3d

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Bill Prince
data, you should be able to calculate the delay and arrive at a pretty accurate timing pulse with one satellite. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:39 AM *To:* af mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing You need

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Chuck McCown
(List Account) Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:39 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing You need an accurate 3d position to get accurate timing. To have an accurate 3d position using GPS alone, you need four satellites. Three only gets you a 2d lock, and less than that you don't get

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Sean Heskett
should be able to calculate the delay and arrive at a pretty accurate timing pulse with one satellite. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:39 AM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing You need an accurate 3d

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Bill Prince
accurate timing pulse with one satellite. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:39 AM *To:* af mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing You need an accurate 3d position to get accurate

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Account) *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:39 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing You need an accurate 3d position to get accurate timing. To have an accurate 3d position using GPS alone, you need four satellites. Three only gets you a 2d lock, and less than that you don't get

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Sean Heskett
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Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Shayne Lebrun
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing That's what I thought too. Once one of these little beggars has been online for a half hour or more, the location should be set so to speak. I would then expect them to hold time sync even with 1 satellite in view. Knowing that the location is static and unmoving, I

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Mike Hammett
, 2015 5:54:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing Hum ? So geosynchronous is just a suggestion? On Aug 11, 2015 12:25 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: the satellites are constantly moving tho and since they are moving faster in orbit than we are here on earth you need to account

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
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Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Bill Prince
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Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Sean Heskett
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Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

2015-08-11 Thread Sean Heskett
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