/watch?v=JNqLSch84aQ
Not sure if he is a Comcast customer though. J
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Jack Shit? Is he another Comcast customer?
http
: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
No one on this List or the FCC will convince me that the telco needed this to
get federal funds to help them with network builds. THEY have PISSED AWAY all
USF funds
, January 30, 2015 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
I don't know if we can answer that question until we see how the rule is
worded if and when it actually becomes a rule.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 1/30/2015 12:21 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
Even if you don�t
: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Just the cost of BLM compliance to extend fiber to a few homes in Nevada exceed
$20K per home. When you do it the government way, it costs 10 times more than
in reasonable. So they compensate with providing a way to serve the debt.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Just as WISPs have been, I think RLECs have been painted with a large brush.
Many good, fewer (but too many) bad apples. Those stories of $20k+/year in
subsidies per line. The reception of subsidies (of any amount) to bring
...@wbmfg.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:12:38 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Just the cost of BLM compliance to extend fiber to a few homes in
Nevada exceed $20K per home. When you do it the government way, it
costs 10 times more than in reasonable
10:21:19 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
People have been complaining about that for decades.
Think we will make a difference here?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/31/2015 8:14 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Seems more logical to fix the high cost process than to enable
questions
Jack Shit? Is he another Comcast customer?
http://elliott.org/blog/hello-dummy-comcast-calls-customers-shocking-names/
From: Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:45:52 AM
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I don’t think the USF pool happened prior to NECA. It started with the 1996 act
I believe. Before NECA ATT was in charge of sharing the bounty with the rural
telcos. There was a doctrine
: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
I did not realize that. I thought that both the cable and telcos were
subsidized. That makes sense why they would be opposing it then.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net
is a different story, as Chuck notes.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:54 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Just as WISPs have been, I think RLECs have been painted with a large brush.
Many good, fewer (but too many) bad apples. Those stories
.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 11:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
I honestly believe the following:
The FCC and the powerful lobbies don’t give a rat’s ass about WISPS and they
wish they would die.
Hell will reach a temperature 100
In reality, with the subsidies that exist, rural telcos could bury fiber for
telco only.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Are rural telcos willing to bury fiber and only get Internet revenue, while
to bury
fiber and try to attain peer status with the ILECS. Then maybe a piece of the
pie could be shared.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
I didn't expect Chuck to fix it, but because something is hard
...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
In reality, with the subsidies that exist, rural telcos could bury fiber for
telco only.
From: Ken Hohhofmailto:af...@kwisp.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:15 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Are rural telcos
They are, slowly.
From: Tyler Treat
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Why aren't they?
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Mangled by my iPhone.
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Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.
tyler.tr
questions
You didn't just use the word logical in reference to anything involving our
government, did you?
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From: Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related
You didn't just use the word logical in reference to anything involving our
government, did you?
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From: Mike Hammett
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Seems more logical to fix
, 2015 3:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
+1. They have the added complication that they are way oversubscribed
compared to almost everything else.
Let's not even mention latency.
If broadband included something about latency (like just 200 ms
sugar low sodium food, just a
couple years after handing out pork rinds, moon pies and Jolt cola in the
school lunch program.
*From:* Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 3:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
+1. They have
Jacobson
*Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 12:21 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Even if you don’t deliver 25Mbps as defined, can’t you just put a plan
rate for 25Mbps and give it some ridiculous price that no one will ever
buy, then claim broadband?
I
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
at those sustained speeds, the only tech that could realistically
deliver to the rural market right now would be satellite wouldnt it
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband
li...@smarterbroadband.com mailto:li
Doubtful. They can't sustain those speeds wide spread any better than we can.
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From: That One Guy
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
at those sustained speeds, the only tech
+1
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Even if you don't deliver 25Mbps as defined, can't you just put a plan rate
for 25Mbps and give it some
: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
at those sustained speeds, the only tech that could realistically
deliver to the rural market right now would be satellite wouldnt it
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband
li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote:
+1
*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun
sustain those speeds wide spread any better than we
can.
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*From:* That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
at those sustained speeds, the only tech
years after handing out pork rinds, moon pies and Jolt cola in the school lunch
program.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
+1. They have the added complication that they are way oversubscribed compared
-
From: Bill Prince
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
I don't know if we can answer that question until we see how the rule is
worded if and when it actually becomes a rule.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 1
','af@afmug.com');
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
+1. They have the added complication that they are way oversubscribed
compared to almost everything else.
Let's not even mention latency.
If broadband included something about latency (like just 200 ms
for instance
fresh whole grain organic locally grown low sugar low sodium food, just a
couple years after handing out pork rinds, moon pies and Jolt cola in the
school lunch program.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
On 1/30/15 11:39, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc wrote:
1.Is the 25Mbps classification immediate?
2.What are you NOW going to call your previously determined �broadband�
service?
Internet access
High speed internet
Turbo speed internets
Faster than the other guy's internet
, January 30, 2015 7:06:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Doesn't this just mean if you don't offer service of at least 25mbps your area
won't count as served? I'm pretty sure you can call your service whatever you
damn well please.
On Friday, January 30, 2015, Mark
, January 30, 2015 3:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
+1. They have the added complication that they are way oversubscribed
compared to almost everything else.
Let's not even mention latency.
If broadband included something about latency (like just
*From: *Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, January 30, 2015 7:06:38 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Doesn't this just mean if you don't offer service of at least 25mbps
your area won't count as served? I'm
So will that take more than 2 years?
What happens if Jeb beats Hillary and picks the new FCC chairman?
(Rick Perry would probably eliminate the FCC. Oops.)
From: Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 7:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
It doesn't
we can.
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*From:* That One Guy mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 3:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
at those sustained speeds
: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
at those sustained speeds, the only tech that could realistically deliver to
the rural market right now would be satellite wouldnt it
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:46 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com
wrote:
+1
From: Af [mailto: af
Jack Shit? Is he another Comcast customer?
http://elliott.org/blog/hello-dummy-comcast-calls-customers-shocking-names/
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
According to Corran, it doesn't mean jack shit yet
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Jack Shit? Is he another Comcast customer?
http://elliott.org/blog/hello-dummy-comcast-calls-customers-shocking-names/
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:21:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
Mike,
I hope you are doing what the rest of us are doing
and Jolt cola in the
school lunch program.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions
+1. They have the added complication that they are way oversubscribed
compared to almost everything else.
Let's
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