Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

2017-03-24 Thread Joe
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow Good to know. I didn’t know Ditch Witch had such a beast. How deep are you putting the drops? From: Joe Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8

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2017-03-24 Thread Joe
To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow How deep can the zahn go though? Last I looked, it was considerably lighter duty than the 410sx. On Wednesday, March 22, 2017, Joe <j...@highspeedcrow.ca <mailto:j...@highspeedcrow.ca> > wrote: We did extensive testing… Our LM

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2017-03-24 Thread Joe
“ideal conditions”. And shale/rocks is not ideal… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 6:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow What happens when the topsoil contains rocks the size of basketballs? What

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2017-03-24 Thread Joe
This one https://www.ditchwitch.com/literature/R300/offline/download.pdf From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow Is it an R80? That is the only one that seems tracked

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2017-03-24 Thread Joe
Dyn-o-mite… :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 4:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow What about granite? Never mind. I think I already know. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 3/23/2017 1

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2017-03-23 Thread Chuck McCown
nal Message -- From: "Joe" <j...@highspeedcrow.ca> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/22/2017 10:54:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow We did extensive testing… Our LM42 we bought was great with direct burial, but not good with a chute for ¾” pipe. It

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2017-03-23 Thread Robert
;Joe" <j...@highspeedcrow.ca <mailto:j...@highspeedcrow.ca>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 3/22/2017 10:54:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow We did extensive testing… Our LM42 we bought was great with direct burial, but not good

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2017-03-23 Thread Bill Prince
fmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 3/22/2017 10:54:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow We did extensive testing… Our LM42 we bought was great with direct burial, but not good with a chute for ¾” pipe. It was reliable, but in harder ground it was an issu

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2017-03-23 Thread Gerard Dupont III
- Original Message -- > From: "Joe" <j...@highspeedcrow.ca> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 3/22/2017 10:54:09 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow > > We did extensive testing… > > > > Our LM42 we bought was great with direct burial, but not good w

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2017-03-23 Thread Jason McKemie
Both have that option? Any advantage to either one? The 410 seems more versatile. On Thursday, March 23, 2017, Chuck Hogg wrote: > My guys use the DW 410 and Case Maxi Sneaker. Almost daily they use the > Roto Bore to go under driveways and sidewalks and small roads. > >

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2017-03-23 Thread Chuck Hogg
My guys use the DW 410 and Case Maxi Sneaker. Almost daily they use the Roto Bore to go under driveways and sidewalks and small roads. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I'm trying to decide what make/model of plow to get.

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2017-03-23 Thread Adam Moffett
ow.ca> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/22/2017 10:54:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow We did extensive testing… Our LM42 we bought was great with direct burial, but not good with a chute for ¾” pipe. It was reliable, but in harder ground it was an issue – no setting for the angle wh

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2017-03-22 Thread Jason McKemie
used a lot of > water to be effective. Think of how a big tree mover sends the big knifes > into the ground easier with water…that was the model we compared it to. > Very functional… just impractical in practice. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com > &

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2017-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Is it an R80? That is the only one that seems tracked and articulated. From: Joe Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow We did extensive testing… Our LM42 we bought was great with direct burial, but not good with a chute for ¾” pipe

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2017-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Good to know. I didn’t know Ditch Witch had such a beast. How deep are you putting the drops? From: Joe Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow We did extensive testing… Our LM42 we bought was great with direct burial, but not good

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2017-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
McCown wrote: I don’t think I have ever seen this. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow Chuck you might be thinking of a different process. The compaction boring setup is just a small high-

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2017-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
What I am talking about is a hydra bore attachment for the maxi sneaker. From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow Like this one? http://www.southern-tool.com/store/uw_boring_machines.php On 3/22/2017 7:12 PM, Chuck

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2017-03-22 Thread Joe
compared it to. Very functional… just impractical in practice. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow I'm trying to decide what make/model of plow to get. The options, as I

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2017-03-22 Thread Gerard Dupont III
PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I don’t think I have ever seen this. > > *From:* Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:50 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow > > Chuck you might be thinking of a different process. The compaction b

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2017-03-22 Thread Nate Burke
Like this one? http://www.southern-tool.com/store/uw_boring_machines.php On 3/22/2017 7:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I don’t think I have ever seen this. *From:* Chris Fabien *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:50 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow Chuck you might

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2017-03-22 Thread Chris Fabien
rom:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:54 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow > > I assume you don't mean the type of missile you launch at your enemies. > > I googled for "underground cable missile" and I'm directed to an a

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2017-03-22 Thread Chris Fabien
In addition to using it to make a trench for the boring tool, we also find it handy for crossing ditches that are too steep or wet to drive the machine across. You can trench across a fairly wide trench if you can pull the machine up to the edge on either side of it. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:06

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2017-03-22 Thread Gerard Dupont III
ay, March 22, 2017 10:22 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow > > We use the hell out of the roto witch on our 410sx to cross under > sidewalks, driveways, and county roads. It doesn't need as large of an > entry/exit pit as a mole does. It doesn't req

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2017-03-22 Thread Adam Moffett
They don't use water in the demonstration videos I've watched. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/22/2017 12:31:03 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow But you have to have water, right? From:Gerard Dupont III

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2017-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
But you have to have water, right? From: Gerard Dupont III Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow We use the hell out of the roto witch on our 410sx to cross under sidewalks, driveways, and county roads. It doesn't need as large

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2017-03-22 Thread Gerard Dupont III
wrote: > Yes, if you get them aimed when you are starting them they do a pretty > good job. > Easy to transport, setup and use. No mess compared to boring. > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:54 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] V

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2017-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Trenchers are nice for when you want to lay 1.25” duct. Smaller plows will not plow that size. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow What do you find that you use the trencher for? Getting close to things

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2017-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Search on mole missile pneumatic boring tool. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow Yes, if you get them aimed when you are starting them they do a pretty good job. Easy to transport, setup and use. No mess compared

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2017-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes, if you get them aimed when you are starting them they do a pretty good job. Easy to transport, setup and use. No mess compared to boring. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow I assume you don't mean the type

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2017-03-22 Thread Adam Moffett
uck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/22/2017 10:50:53 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow I think a missile is more useful than the small drill attachments. From:Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:47 AM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow We

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2017-03-22 Thread Chuck McCown
I think a missile is more useful than the small drill attachments. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow We have an older maxi sneaker and pretty happy with it. They are somewhat tippy as Chuck stated but if you get

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2017-03-22 Thread Chris Fabien
We have an older maxi sneaker and pretty happy with it. They are somewhat tippy as Chuck stated but if you get the dual tires they help a lot. Ours has been rolled down into a ditch once with no damage. Any of these machines will tip if you do something stupid. The LM42 I see used a lot by drop

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2017-03-21 Thread Craig Schmaderer
rch 21, 2017 5:36:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow I didn't realize that the 410sx had that option. Is it very difficult to attach/remove? On Tuesday, March 21, 2017, Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com<mailto:cr...@skywaveconnect.com>> wrote: We have

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2017-03-21 Thread Jason McKemie
m');>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:26:16 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow > > I never found the drill attachment on the Ditch Witch to be very useful. > I have used the maxi sneaker man

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2017-03-21 Thread Craig Schmaderer
7 3:26:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow I never found the drill attachment on the Ditch Witch to be very useful. I have used the maxi sneaker many times. They used to be terribly top heavy. I rolled one on a side hill once. Mini excavators are nice for start and end

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2017-03-21 Thread Chuck McCown
:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Vibratory Plow I'm trying to decide what make/model of plow to get. The options, as I see them, are the Vermeer LM42, Ditch Witch 410SX, or Case Maxi Sneaker. I'll be using this for customer drops as well as some main-runs. I like the mini excavator

[AFMUG] Vibratory Plow

2017-03-21 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm trying to decide what make/model of plow to get. The options, as I see them, are the Vermeer LM42, Ditch Witch 410SX, or Case Maxi Sneaker. I'll be using this for customer drops as well as some main-runs. I like the mini excavator attachment for the LM42, although I don't know how limiting