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On 4/18/17 4:40 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
People still use tape? I haven't seen a tape in many years.
I have an LTO autoloader of tapes and a NAS for backups. Both are at
different locations. The tapes are effectively a backup of the backups.
~Seth
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Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:28:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
careful. UP is listening.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:22 AM Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:
No, what would it be if you had continuous railcar transport??? We could
eliminate all the fiber wit
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Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:15:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
Chicago to LA is 30 hours by truck.
Typical 53 foot trailer is 3816 cubic feet.
A LTO-7 tape can hold 6TB
The volume of a LTO-7 tape is just under 0.01 cubic foot (0.00839973) We'
Excellent way to illustrate the difference between bandwidth and latency.
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On 4/17/2017 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Very high res...
*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 11:20 AM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
I like i
Very high res...
From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:20 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
I like it, you may be on to something. So we basically just need to convince
the gamers to become good old fashioned bums that ride around on freight trains
all day
hysically fight. Much more
> realistic and very low latency.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 11:06 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
>
> The gamers won't like the latency at all...
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> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:40 A
:)
- Josh
On Apr 17, 2017 11:15 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
> Chicago to LA is 30 hours by truck.
>
> Typical 53 foot trailer is 3816 cubic feet.
>
> A LTO-7 tape can hold 6TB
> The volume of a LTO-7 tape is just under 0.01 cubic foot (0.00839973)
>
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
Well, assuming that the rail was moving at a similar speed to the trucks
- say 60MPH, And the rail cars were ~60 feet in length, and had the same
volume as the 53 foot truck.
60MPH = 316,800 FPH / 60 Feet = 5280 Railcars per hour, 88 railcars per
Gamers have to actually get in a RR car and physically fight. Much more
realistic and very low latency.
From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:06 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
The gamers won't like the latency at all...
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:40 AM
train...
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>
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> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> No, what would it be if you had continuous railcar transport??? We could
>> eliminate all the fiber with railroads!
>>
>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List
Time to invest in RR stock. Screw fiber.
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:33 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
Well, assuming that the rail was moving at a similar speed to the trucks - say
60MPH, And the rail cars were ~60 feet
wrote:
> No, what would it be if you had continuous railcar transport??? We could
> eliminate all the fiber with railroads!
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 10:15 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
>
> C
ay, April 17, 2017 10:15 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
> Chicago to LA is 30 hours by truck.
>
> Typical 53 foot trailer is 3816 cubic feet.
>
> A LTO-7 tape can hold 6TB
> The volume of a LTO-7 tape is just under 0.01 cubic foot (0.00839973...
No, what would it be if you had continuous railcar transport??? We could
eliminate all the fiber with railroads!
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:15 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
Chicago to LA is 30 hours by truck.
Typical 53 foot
: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:16 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
Chicago to LA is 30 hours by truck.
Typical 53 foot trailer is 3816 cubic feet.
A LTO-7 tape can hold 6TB
The volume of a LTO-7 tape is just under 0.01 cubic foot (0.00839973)
We'll use 0.01 cubic foot.
A 53 foot
Chicago to LA is 30 hours by truck.
Typical 53 foot trailer is 3816 cubic feet.
A LTO-7 tape can hold 6TB
The volume of a LTO-7 tape is just under 0.01 cubic foot (0.00839973)
We'll use 0.01 cubic foot.
A 53 foot trailer packed completely full can hold 381600 Tapes X 6TB =
2,289,600TB, or
I can't remember which but there was a nanog presentation a few years
ago about max bandwidth and the top of the chart was still listed as a
747 cargo full of optical media.. Now as far as getting that data on
and off the media
On 04/17/2017 07:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
Oh, a couple of things I meant to add but forgot:
Other shippable media is an option as well I thankfully haven't had to
deal with tapes recently, but it looks like single tapes will hold around
6TB. The advantage of tapes is you have a copy of the data if something
happens to your storage
For the seed you need to understand this quote:
"*Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes
hurtling down the highway*." —Tanenbaum, Andrew S. (1989). Computer
Networks. New Jersey: Prentice-Hall. p. 57. ISBN 0-13-166836-6.
I'd highly recommend you think about how to
I'll tell you what other companies do here, and you might be surprised.
Tapes and FedEx.
Shock resistant, and a pallet of tapes doesn't clog your wan. It scales
pretty darn well. I am currently a SME contractor for a large federal
agency that does this, and private industry does this as well.
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Subject: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer
I work for a medical data company and we have a possible project where will be
getting data from a human genome company. What would be a
I work for a medical data company and we have a possible project where will
be getting data from a human genome company. What would be a option for
move the data between our datacenter and there datacenter? We are in the
southeast and they are in the midwest. The data amount would be a seed of
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