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Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:03:46 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS It's clearly not hard. It's obviously not expensive. I'm already doing i

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omeone remind me again why I have my own recursive DNS. >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 4/2/2018 3:22:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS >> >>

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: > >> >> i saw 18 ms to cloudfair, 15 ms to google >> >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] new DNS >> >>

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to:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: i saw 18 ms to cloudfair, 15 ms to google - Original Message - *From:* Seth Mattinen <mailto:se...@rollernet.us> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM *Subje

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; > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] new DNS > > On 4/3/18 8:09 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: > > I've seen cloudflare racks and they have a ton of gear and reliability > > built in. They also host two of the root dns servers. Thei

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i saw 18 ms to cloudfair, 15 ms to google - Original Message - From: Seth Mattinen To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS On 4/3/18 8:09 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: > I've seen cloudflare racks and they have a ton of g

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f@afmug.com Sent: 4/3/2018 11:31:31 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS What’s in it for them? From:Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 9:25 AM To:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS We seem to be close to both 8.8.8.8 (3ms RTT), and 1.1.1.1 (2ms RTT). Might be inclined to do a blend.

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On 4/3/18 8:17 AM, Robert wrote: Cloudflare has also screwed-the-pooch at least once in a major way that got national headlines... There's a Quad9 9.9.9.9 node here, and of all of them, PCH's motivations are the least commercial in nature.

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For Google or Cloudflare? bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 4/3/2018 8:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: What’s in it for them? *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2018 9:25 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] new DNS We seem to be close to both 8.8.8.8 (3ms RTT), and 1

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What’s in it for them? From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 9:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS We seem to be close to both 8.8.8.8 (3ms RTT), and 1.1.1.1 (2ms RTT). Might be inclined to do a blend. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 4/3/2018 8:21 AM

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; <c...@infowest.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 4/3/2018 11:28:40 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS Wondering if Google is going to up their game and announce 8.8.8.8 from their GGC cache clusters so it’s faster/closer than the 1.1.1.1 Cloudflare clusters. On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Bill P

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Wondering if Google is going to up their game and announce 8.8.8.8 from their GGC cache clusters so it’s faster/closer than the 1.1.1.1 Cloudflare clusters. > On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > We seem to be close to both 8.8.8.8 (3ms RTT), and 1.1.1.1

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We seem to be close to both 8.8.8.8 (3ms RTT), and 1.1.1.1 (2ms RTT). Might be inclined to do a blend. bp On 4/3/2018 8:21 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Well then. I’ll put a few more routers in my network. So they have to put equipment in my datacenter. :) On Apr 3,

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Well then. I’ll put a few more routers in my network. So they have to put equipment in my datacenter. :) > On Apr 3, 2018, at 11:18, Darin Steffl wrote: > > Cloudflare has posted that their goal is to be within 10ms of every ISP in > the world. So they're adding their

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Cloudflare has posted that their goal is to be within 10ms of every ISP in the world. So they're adding their to gear to regional datacenter's and peering exchanges, not just major ones. On Tue, Apr 3, 2018, 10:16 AM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 4/3/18 8:09 AM, Darin Steffl

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Cloudflare has also screwed-the-pooch at least once in a major way that got national headlines... On 4/3/18 8:09 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: The new cloudflare dns is 3ms away from our core, opendns and Google are 12ms away. And I believe that cloudflare can run way more reliable dns than we

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On 4/3/18 8:09 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: I've seen cloudflare racks and they have a ton of gear and reliability built in. They also host two of the root dns servers. Their cache rate will be much higher than our own servers as well. Oh well I host 6 root servers for redundancy: D, E, F, J, K,

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; simple, we would be looking for something that we could do regular firmware >> updates only, and monitor with SNMP just like all our other network devices. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> David Coudron >> >> >> >> *From:

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t we could do regular firmware > updates only, and monitor with SNMP just like all our other network devices. > > > > Regards, > > > > David Coudron > > > > *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:04 AM > *

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, David Coudron From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS It's clearly not hard. It's obviously not expensive. I'm already doing it and have been for years. But it's more than $0. I'v

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because it > > > actually makes sense or are we doing it because we've always done > > it and > > > we can't imagine another way? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Original Message -- > > > From: &qu

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al Message -- > From: "Justin Wilson" <li...@mtin.net <mailto:li...@mtin.net> <mailto:li...@mtin.net <mailto:li...@mtin.net>>> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>

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imagine another way? > > > > > > > > -- Original Message -- > > From: "Justin Wilson" <li...@mtin.net <mailto:li...@mtin.net>> > > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > > Sent: 4/3/2018 8:48:33 AM > > Subject:

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d we can't imagine another way? -- Original Message -- From: "Justin Wilson" <li...@mtin.net <mailto:li...@mtin.net>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 4/3/2018 8:48:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS You have your own DNS for one huge reason. Geo

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<mailto:li...@mtin.net>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: 4/3/2018 8:48:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS You have your own DNS for one huge reason. GeoLocation for when it comes to Content Networks such as Netflix.  One of the mechanisms they employ is using DN

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- Original Message -- From: "Justin Wilson" <li...@mtin.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 4/3/2018 8:48:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS You have your own DNS for one huge reason. GeoLocation for when it comes to Content Networks such as Netflix. One of the mechanisms they emplo

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*Date:*Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 4:33 AM *To:*af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] new DNS Because it's good for your customers, and it should take very little time to set one up. The main reason for this is so that websites serve data from the

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operate our own anycasted DNS …actually two of them. One set of > servers for recursive caching and another set for authoritative DNS. > > Paul > > > *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "Forrest Christian (List > Account)" <li...@packetflux.com>

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ristian (List > Account)" <li...@packetflux.com> > Reply-To: <af@afmug.com> > Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 4:33 AM > To: af <af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS > > Because it's good for your customers, and it should take very little time to

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oun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <li...@packetflux.com> Reply-To: <af@afmug.com> Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 4:33 AM To: af <af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS Because it's good for your customers, and it should take very little

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sage -- > From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: 4/2/2018 3:22:57 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS > > Yes, bunch of discussions over the past few days on NANOG and some of the > vendor mailing lists. > > On Mon, Apr 2,

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Someone remind me again why I have my own recursive DNS. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 4/2/2018 3:22:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS Yes, bunch of discussions over the past few days on NANOG and some of th

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That is my dream too. Play with grandkids more. But I keep starting businesses... -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 2:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS On 4/2/18 13:30, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So many lists, so many time. It would

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On 4/2/18 13:30, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So many lists, so many time.  It would cut into my TV watching I am afraid... I used to work really hard all the time, but since but August of last year I decided it's been enough for what I'm getting out of it and shifted focus to remodeling, TV,

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So many lists, so many time. It would cut into my TV watching I am afraid... From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 2:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS If you guys aren't on NANOG, you really should be. On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 2:50 PM Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet

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If you guys aren't on NANOG, you really should be. On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 2:50 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 4/2/18 12:43, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Wonder how they got that IP address. > > APNIC has it and agreed to let cloudflare use it or something, > apparently there's

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From APNIC.. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 2, 2018, at 3:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > Wonder how they got that IP address. > > From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 1:33 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new D

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On 4/2/18 12:43, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Wonder how they got that IP address. APNIC has it and agreed to let cloudflare use it or something, apparently there's some upset about it not being a transparent process, but I don't follow APNIC happenings. I guess they felt left out from the public

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Wonder how they got that IP address. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 1:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS It's not On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 2:24 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: You sure it's not an April's Fool gag? Jaime S

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It's not On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 2:24 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > You sure it's not an April's Fool gag? > > Jaime Solorza > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 1:21 PM Travis Johnson wrote: > >> >>

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You sure it's not an April's Fool gag? Jaime Solorza On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 1:21 PM Travis Johnson wrote: > > https://gizmodo.com/how-to-speed-up-your-internet-and-protect-your-privacy-1824256587 > > Faster and more private than Google or others. :) > > Travis > >

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I fail to see how this is going to protect the user from their evil spying ISP in any meaningful way. On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > https://gizmodo.com/how-to-speed-up-your-internet-and-protec > t-your-privacy-1824256587 > > Faster and more private than

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Yes, bunch of discussions over the past few days on NANOG and some of the vendor mailing lists. On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 2:21 PM Travis Johnson wrote: > > https://gizmodo.com/how-to-speed-up-your-internet-and-protect-your-privacy-1824256587 > > Faster and more private than Google or