Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Jason Wilson]

A little.  How did water get into those connectors?


Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
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On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Based on the current thread subject, I'll just assume you pissed and
> moaned from up there.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jason Wilson" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 2/11/2017 8:53:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning
>
> Quick little climb this morning.
>
> 105'
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
>
> Jason Wilson
> Remotely Located
> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
> 530-651-1736 <(530)%20651-1736>
> 530-748-9608 <(530)%20748-9608> Cell
> www.remotelylocated.com
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Ha...
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2017 4:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>>
>> I have the fastest delete key in the West.
>>
>> *From:* Joshua Stump
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 11, 2017 3:55 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning
>>
>> Amen. I've been marking everything as read since November.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>> It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning on
>> this list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have left the
>> list because the pissing and moaning has been more than a third of the
>> messages the last three months.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Adam Moffett]

Based on the current thread subject, I'll just assume you pissed and 
moaned from up there.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jason Wilson" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/11/2017 8:53:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning


Quick little climb this morning.

105'




Jason Wilson
Remotely Located
Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
530-651-1736
530-748-9608 Cell
www.remotelylocated.com

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Jaime Solorza 
 wrote:

Ha...

On Feb 11, 2017 4:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

I have the fastest delete key in the West.

From:Joshua Stump
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 3:55 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

Amen. I've been marking everything as read since November.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning 
on this list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have 
left the list because the pissing and moaning has been more than a 
third of the messages the last three months.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 


Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 


The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Jaime Solorza]

Ha...

On Feb 11, 2017 4:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

I have the fastest delete key in the West.

*From:* Joshua Stump
*Sent:* Saturday, February 11, 2017 3:55 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

Amen. I've been marking everything as read since November.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning on this
list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have left the list
because the pissing and moaning has been more than a third of the messages
the last three months.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 




Midwest Internet Exchange 



The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Chuck McCown]

I have the fastest delete key in the West.

From: Joshua Stump 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 3:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

Amen. I've been marking everything as read since November. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:


  It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning on this 
list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have left the list 
because the pissing and moaning has been more than a third of the messages the 
last three months.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] OT... Got out too tired to cook

[Jaime Solorza]

Two tacos, two enchiladas, one chile relleno, beans, rice and cheese..
6.99...

On Feb 11, 2017 3:39 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Enjoy... Good Luck Cafe Mexican Plate
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Joshua Stump]

Amen. I've been marking everything as read since November. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2017, at 9:14 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning on this 
> list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have left the list 
> because the pissing and moaning has been more than a third of the messages 
> the last three months.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Adam Moffett]

It's not ourtageous to think it's possible.  It's outrageous to state as 
a fact that thousands of felonies are being committed without also 
saying how you know this and how nobody in the local election office 
noticed.


Mike Hammet shot JFK!  See.


-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/11/2017 9:02:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without 
Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To 
Illegally Vote



Why isn't it plausible? That seems like a perfectly simple thing to do.

I'm not saying it is happening, but it's not so outrageous that it 
couldn't happen. The left really needs to back that knob off of 11.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 


Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 


The Brothers WISP 





From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:00:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without 
Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To 
Illegally Vote


Yep,  I fell off the turnip truck... Headed to buy my Ivanka Trump 
spring ensemble.Plausible my ass


On Feb 11, 2017 6:29 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
That seems like an extremely plausible thing to have happen. I don't 
understand your outrage. Time to take part in the first directive of 
your subject.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 


Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 


The Brothers WISP 





From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:22:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without 
Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To 
Illegally Vote


https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 Heater POE Polarity

[Chris Fabien]

We've seen issues with epmp running on RB750up because the heater trips the
overcurrent limit... we had to change several towers this winter to
alternate power supplies.

On Feb 10, 2017 5:31 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Powered up just fine for us with a 750p yesterday.  Two of them.  It was
> like 15*?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Where are you testing?  It's like 40 degrees outside.  I assume you are
>> testing in a freezer?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 3:47 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 Heater POE Polarity
>>
>> I would like some confirmation, because I think that I'm repeating the
>> test now and coming up with different results.  Like the heater isn't
>> kicking on with either polarity now.
>>
>> On 2/10/2017 3:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>> > You'd think after Trango's miserable experience with preheaters in
>> their 5830 series radios, no one would do that ever again.
>> >
>> > I know I didn't answer your question, but it sounds like you've already
>> answered it and are just looking for confirmation.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
>> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 3:13 PM
>> > To: Animal Farm 
>> > Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 Heater POE Polarity
>> >
>> > I've been running some tests with Cold startup of EPMP1000 w/ sync
>> > Radios.  Does the Internal heater only function with 4/5-  7/8+?  A
>> > cold radio (18F) radio will power on but seems stuck in a reboot loop
>> > with 4/5+  7/8-  The same radio powered on and booted within 2 minutes
>> > or so with 4/5- 7/8+
>> >
>> > Power draw with 4/5+ 7/8- was around 4w, and would randomly spike to
>> around 15w The power light would stay on, but sync and ethernet lights
>> would go on and off, like it was continually rebooting.
>> >
>> > Power draw with 4/5- 7/8+ was a solid 15w for about 2 minutes with only
>> the power light on, then 4w once booted.
>> >
>> > I just presumed that since it would power on with both polarities, the
>> heater would work with both polarities as well.  It's looking like that
>> might not be the case.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S

[Josh Reynolds]

The first rule of that thing you said, is you don't talk about that thing
you said


:-)

On Feb 10, 2017 6:58 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Because Gino is a member of new exciting products cognoscenti, that's
> why...
>
> On Feb 10, 2017 5:48 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:
>
>> Gino uses a large number of different gear.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017, 5:51 PM Craig Schmaderer 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gino I thought you were a SAF man. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* Af  on behalf of Jon Bruce <
>>> jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 1:36:18 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S
>>> Yes. Piping Hot still shows up in some MAC lookups.
>>>
>>> On 2/10/2017 2:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>
>>> I remember my first PTP400 link I went out of my way to buy from
>>> Orthogon, rather than the relabeled Motorola version.  It was just a matter
>>> of weeks and the press release came out that Motorola had bought them.
>>> Wasn’t the legal name something like Piping Hot Networks Ltd.?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2017 1:20 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] So i got shafted by Cambium and a PTP820S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SAF is excellent in this regard, and the warranty is a relatively
>>> inexpensive insurance policy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cambium has never been as shitty to customers as motorola, but pretty
>>> close
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Seth Mattinen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/10/17 10:36, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/10/17 10:32, Gino Villarini wrote:
>>>
>>> Bought our first PTP820S for 6ghz High, one unit came faulty from
>>> factory.  I have to wait 30 days for replacement� geez�
>>>
>>> So Cambium is not stocking replacement radios? I guess this is what
>>> happens wen you relabel Ceragon�
>>>
>>> My MW business is going elsewhere�
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think 6GHz band gear is highly stocked by anyone. Why didn't you
>>> buy spares? =P
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually I should correct myself in that SAF will stock spares if you
>>> pay for their next day replacement plan. Otherwise you have to send it back
>>> to them for repair with a turnaround of about 4 weeks.
>>>
>>> ~Seth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Ken Hohhof]

How to bring the country together?  A new app finds 2 things everyone agrees 
on:  guacamole good, slow walkers bad.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/11/14579730/trump-clinton-hater-app-guacamole

 

Fair warning – it’s from a dating app that matches you with people who hate the 
same things you hate.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 9:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

 

Is the Glass half full or half empty ?

 

Is the Glass empty ?  ... Some folks believe that if there is even a drop of 
liquid in the glass it is not empty... Some folks believe that a few drops 
don't matter since the bulk of  the Glass is Empty

 

And some just feel like arguing about what exactly is 'a few drops' 
thousands !!

 

Meanwhile all of my good friends are missing the big picture.

Arguing about 'thousands of drops' is ridiculous, decisive, waste of time, 
energy and resources...  But apparently they appear to have been so wound up 
tight by the crap (FUD) from the extreme news sources that they believe it and 
sincerely feel that they are being discriminated by the system...

 

I came to realization of this from another conversation, I have say that I am 
flabbergasted. Never in my life I thought that 'Conservative', 'White' 
Americans, majority from the  middle of the Country, seriously and sincerely  
believe that the system has been discriminating against them...and they see the 
current Administration as someone who is going to 'fix' that..they are so wound 
up and angry that they don't care about at what cost this so called 'fix'  may 
take.. nor do they care 'who' it hurts...

 

Funny thing is that, they complain about the  "Millennials" and 'Liberals' 
being a 'me me me' generation, while right now they appear to be behaving in 
the same manner.. 'me me me' and hiding behind  'America First'...

 

I am not calling anyone out, and purposely generalizing, and right now the 
'split' appears to be half half Meanwhile, it is in the best interest of 
the ruling class to keep everyone fighting (arguing) with each other thus 
providing the cover to do what they want, or not do what they don't want to do, 
and somehow everything they want to do lends gain only to the select group and 
not to the American People

 

 

Enjoy the show I am waiting to see what will be the reaction from such 
folks when the 'hurt' starts to affect them, which will take a bit of time 
I just pray that we all come out on the plus side of the equation...I have no 
ill wishes for anyone, but the way things are headed do have some serious 
concerns as to where exactly we are headed.

 

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 

  _  

From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 9:00:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

Yep,  I fell off the turnip truck... Headed to buy my Ivanka Trump spring 
ensemble.Plausible my ass

 

On Feb 11, 2017 6:29 AM, "Mike Hammett"  > wrote:



That seems like an extremely plausible thing to have happen. I don't understand 
your outrage. Time to take part in the first directive of your subject.



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 





  _  


From: "Jaime Solorza"  >
To: "Animal Farm"  >
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:22:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Bill Prince]

If stupid is painful, that must be the reason I can hear old orange-face 
screaming from here.



bp


On 2/11/2017 9:04 AM, Wireless Administrator wrote:


The process of making America great again will require some things to 
be done proactively.  I for one am glad to have a President that plans 
to clean up stupid.  I accept and except that he will make some people 
unhappy along the way. I’m good with that.


I just wish being stupid was painful! Then things might stay fixed for 
a while.


Steve

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Saturday, February 11, 2017 9:01 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without 
Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To 
Illegally Vote


Yep,  I fell off the turnip truck... Headed to buy my Ivanka Trump 
spring ensemble.Plausible my ass


On Feb 11, 2017 6:29 AM, "Mike Hammett" > wrote:


That seems like an extremely plausible thing to have happen. I don't 
understand your outrage. Time to take part in the first directive of 
your subject.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







*From: *"Jaime Solorza" >

*To: *"Animal Farm" >
*Sent: *Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:22:01 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without 
Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To 
Illegally Vote


https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Wireless Administrator]

The process of making America great again will require some things to be done 
proactively.  I for one am glad to have a President that plans to clean up 
stupid.  I accept and except that he will make some people unhappy along the 
way. I’m good with that.  

 

I just wish being stupid was painful! Then things might stay fixed for a while.

 

Steve

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 9:01 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

 

Yep,  I fell off the turnip truck... Headed to buy my Ivanka Trump spring 
ensemble.Plausible my ass

 

On Feb 11, 2017 6:29 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

That seems like an extremely plausible thing to have happen. I don't understand 
your outrage. Time to take part in the first directive of your subject.



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 




  _  

From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:22:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532

 

Re: [AFMUG] 10G in x86 Mikrotik

[Faisal Imtiaz]

There is a list of supported cards on the Mikrotik wiki.

We have a few i7 based units running the following dual 10g Nic's.

Intel x520  (has locked optics, but if you use with DAC cables then it is not 
an issue)

Hotlava Card (excellent card, no issues)

Broadcom NetXtreme BCM57711 chipset based dual nic.. (
  (something like these  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-KJYD8-Broadcom-5711-NetXtreme-II-Dual-Port-10-Gbe-SFP-PCIe-Network-Card-/322333006598?hash=item4b0c8b5b06:g:r6UAAOSwj85YL6L6)

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Nate Burke" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 11:17:27 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] 10G in x86 Mikrotik

> I'm looking to add a 10G interface into one of my X86 Mikrotik boxes.
> Anyone have a recommendation for a card that is compatible with Tik and
> hopefully won't break the bank?

[AFMUG] 10G in x86 Mikrotik

[Nate Burke]

I'm looking to add a 10G interface into one of my X86 Mikrotik boxes.  
Anyone have a recommendation for a card that is compatible with Tik and 
hopefully won't break the bank?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines ToIllegally Vote

[Chuck McCown]

I was a victim of domestic terrorism via biological warfare. 
Boy was I sick.

And those people bussed in enough to take over the local government.  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Rajneeshee_bioterror_attack

From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 7:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without 
Evidence"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines ToIllegally Vote

That stuff isn't new.  Been happening for years, particularly in states where 
you can register and vote at the same time.

Jeff Broadwick 
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Feb 11, 2017, at 9:02 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:


  Why isn't it plausible? That seems like a perfectly simple thing to do.

  I'm not saying it is happening, but it's not so outrageous that it couldn't 
happen. The left really needs to back that knob off of 11.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: "Jaime Solorza" 
  To: "Animal Farm" 
  Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:00:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote


  Yep,  I fell off the turnip truck... Headed to buy my Ivanka Trump spring 
ensemble.Plausible my ass

  On Feb 11, 2017 6:29 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

That seems like an extremely plausible thing to have happen. I don't 
understand your outrage. Time to take part in the first directive of your 
subject.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP








From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:22:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote



https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Bill Prince]

You can turn it off with a filter.


Adios.

bp


On 2/11/2017 6:14 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning on 
this list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have left 
the list because the pissing and moaning has been more than a third of 
the messages the last three months.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Bill Prince]

Provide one ounce of evidence. There is none. This guy just makes things 
up. Get used to it, because he also doesn't seem to get much sleep.



bp


On 2/11/2017 6:02 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Why isn't it plausible? That seems like a perfectly simple thing to do.

I'm not saying it is happening, but it's not so outrageous that it 
couldn't happen. The left really needs to back that knob off of 11.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Is the Glass half full or half empty ? 

Is the Glass empty ? ... Some folks believe that if there is even a drop of 
liquid in the glass it is not empty... Some folks believe that a few drops 
don't matter since the bulk of the Glass is Empty 

And some just feel like arguing about what exactly is 'a few drops' 
thousands !! 

Meanwhile all of my good friends are missing the big picture. 
Arguing about 'thousands of drops' is ridiculous, decisive, waste of time, 
energy and resources... But apparently they appear to have been so wound up 
tight by the crap (FUD) from the extreme news sources that they believe it and 
sincerely feel that they are being discriminated by the system... 

I came to realization of this from another conversation, I have say that I am 
flabbergasted. Never in my life I thought that 'Conservative', 'White' 
Americans, majority from the middle of the Country, seriously and sincerely 
believe that the system has been discriminating against them...and they see the 
current Administration as someone who is going to 'fix' that..they are so wound 
up and angry that they don't care about at what cost this so called 'fix' may 
take.. nor do they care 'who' it hurts... 

Funny thing is that, they complain about the "Millennials" and 'Liberals' being 
a 'me me me' generation, while right now they appear to be behaving in the same 
manner.. 'me me me' and hiding behind 'America First'... 

I am not calling anyone out, and purposely generalizing, and right now the 
'split' appears to be half half Meanwhile, it is in the best interest of 
the ruling class to keep everyone fighting (arguing) with each other thus 
providing the cover to do what they want, or not do what they don't want to do, 
and somehow everything they want to do lends gain only to the select group and 
not to the American People 


Enjoy the show I am waiting to see what will be the reaction from such 
folks when the 'hurt' starts to affect them, which will take a bit of time 
I just pray that we all come out on the plus side of the equation...I have no 
ill wishes for anyone, but the way things are headed do have some serious 
concerns as to where exactly we are headed. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 




From: "Jaime Solorza"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 9:00:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote 




BQ_BEGIN

Yep, I fell off the turnip truck... Headed to buy my Ivanka Trump spring 
ensemble. Plausible my ass 

On Feb 11, 2017 6:29 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 

BQ_BEGIN

That seems like an extremely plausible thing to have happen. I don't understand 
your outrage. Time to take part in the first directive of your subject. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:22:01 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote 

https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532
 

BQ_END


BQ_END

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Jaime Solorza]

I will, Ken... Got to go earn... Long day I play tonight 9 to 1 with a
classic rock band

On Feb 11, 2017 7:56 AM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

> Chuck himself has posted about pissing and moaning, check your archive.
> Something about a dog, a phoneline and a bad ground.
>
>
>
> Jaime, remember to include a photo with the recipe!
>
>
>
> Also, does AF = “Alternative Facts”?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:51 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning
>
>
>
> It's not pissing and moaning... He won,  I don't like it but he did... He
> can't let it go that he didn't get the popular vote. FACT... You are a
> poster just like me..you are not the boss of me If Chuck asks me to
> stop,  I will... And maybe this afternoon, I will share a recipe to balance
> this out.   Got to go work at ICE detention center... Ironic, huh?
>
>
>
> On Feb 11, 2017 7:14 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
> It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning on
> this list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have left the
> list because the pissing and moaning has been more than a third of the
> messages the last three months.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Ken Hohhof]

Chuck himself has posted about pissing and moaning, check your archive.  
Something about a dog, a phoneline and a bad ground.

 

Jaime, remember to include a photo with the recipe!

 

Also, does AF = “Alternative Facts”?

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:51 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

 

It's not pissing and moaning... He won,  I don't like it but he did... He can't 
let it go that he didn't get the popular vote. FACT... You are a poster just 
like me..you are not the boss of me If Chuck asks me to stop,  I will... 
And maybe this afternoon, I will share a recipe to balance this out.   Got to 
go work at ICE detention center... Ironic, huh?  

 

On Feb 11, 2017 7:14 AM, "Mike Hammett"  > wrote:

It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning on this 
list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have left the list 
because the pissing and moaning has been more than a third of the messages the 
last three months.



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Mike Hammett]

I do most of my political pissing and moaning on Facebook where everybody else 
does. 

Food pics, recipes, weather girls, wiring boxes, all nice. :-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jaime Solorza"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:51:00 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning 


It's not pissing and moaning... He won, I don't like it but he did... He can't 
let it go that he didn't get the popular vote. FACT... You are a poster just 
like me..you are not the boss of me If Chuck asks me to stop, I will... And 
maybe this afternoon, I will share a recipe to balance this out. Got to go work 
at ICE detention center... Ironic, huh? 


On Feb 11, 2017 7:14 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning on this 
list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have left the list 
because the pissing and moaning has been more than a third of the messages the 
last three months. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Jaime Solorza]

It's not pissing and moaning... He won,  I don't like it but he did... He
can't let it go that he didn't get the popular vote. FACT... You are a
poster just like me..you are not the boss of me If Chuck asks me to
stop,  I will... And maybe this afternoon, I will share a recipe to balance
this out.   Got to go work at ICE detention center... Ironic, huh?

On Feb 11, 2017 7:14 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning on
> this list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have left the
> list because the pissing and moaning has been more than a third of the
> messages the last three months.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
>

[AFMUG] OT Pissing and Moaning

[Mike Hammett]

It's probably time to cut back on the off topic pissing and moaning on this 
list. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of the people have left the list 
because the pissing and moaning has been more than a third of the messages the 
last three months. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Mike Hammett]

*nods* I'm not even trying to say that it did happen... just that it's such a 
low bar to pass that it would be unreasonable to think that it couldn't happen. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:09:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote 


That stuff isn't new. Been happening for years, particularly in states where 
you can register and vote at the same time. 

Jeff Broadwick 
ConVergence Technologies , Inc. 
312-205-2519 Office 
574-220-7826 Cell 
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com 

On Feb 11, 2017, at 9:02 AM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 





Why isn't it plausible? That seems like a perfectly simple thing to do. 

I'm not saying it is happening, but it's not so outrageous that it couldn't 
happen. The left really needs to back that knob off of 11. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:00:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote 


Yep, I fell off the turnip truck... Headed to buy my Ivanka Trump spring 
ensemble. Plausible my ass 


On Feb 11, 2017 6:29 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




That seems like an extremely plausible thing to have happen. I don't understand 
your outrage. Time to take part in the first directive of your subject. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:22:01 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote 


https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532
 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

That stuff isn't new.  Been happening for years, particularly in states where 
you can register and vote at the same time.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

> On Feb 11, 2017, at 9:02 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> Why isn't it plausible? That seems like a perfectly simple thing to do.
> 
> I'm not saying it is happening, but it's not so outrageous that it couldn't 
> happen. The left really needs to back that knob off of 11.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:00:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
> "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote
> 
> Yep,  I fell off the turnip truck... Headed to buy my Ivanka Trump spring 
> ensemble.Plausible my ass
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2017 6:29 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>> That seems like an extremely plausible thing to have happen. I don't 
>> understand your outrage. Time to take part in the first directive of your 
>> subject.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
>> To: "Animal Farm" 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:22:01 AM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
>> "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote
>> 
>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Mike Hammett]

Why isn't it plausible? That seems like a perfectly simple thing to do. 

I'm not saying it is happening, but it's not so outrageous that it couldn't 
happen. The left really needs to back that knob off of 11. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jaime Solorza"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 8:00:38 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote 


Yep, I fell off the turnip truck... Headed to buy my Ivanka Trump spring 
ensemble. Plausible my ass 


On Feb 11, 2017 6:29 AM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




That seems like an extremely plausible thing to have happen. I don't understand 
your outrage. Time to take part in the first directive of your subject. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Jaime Solorza" < losguyswirel...@gmail.com > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:22:01 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote 


https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532
 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep,  I fell off the turnip truck... Headed to buy my Ivanka Trump spring
ensemble.Plausible my ass

On Feb 11, 2017 6:29 AM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> That seems like an extremely plausible thing to have happen. I don't
> understand your outrage. Time to take part in the first directive of your
> subject.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" 
> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:22:01 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without
> Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally
> Vote
>
> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-
> revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Mike Hammett]

That seems like an extremely plausible thing to have happen. I don't understand 
your outrage. Time to take part in the first directive of your subject. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jaime Solorza"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:22:01 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence 
"Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote 


https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532
 

[AFMUG] OT: Take your meds dude!! Trump Claims Without Evidence "Thousands" Of People Were Bused Across State Lines To Illegally Vote

[Jaime Solorza]

https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzfeed.com%2Famphtml%2Fsalvadorhernandez%2Ftrump-revives-voter-fraud-claims#pt0-11532