Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

The same way the Flat Earth Society has members "all around the globe". *cough* :) On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Roland Houin wrote: > how do you orbit a flat earth. > > roland > >> I would love it if they were able to get it in orbit. > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 2:25 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

Hi here, I'm glad to see discussions about UBNT UFiber GPON here. I'd like to clarify some of the statements which I read in this thread. > Ubnt initially released a spec saying the Nano would be rated for -40C. After resting they revised this to -10C... this told me they didn't design properly

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

It look like something wile coyote would chase the roadrunner in. Would have been awesome if ACME was painted on the side. If he does get it to launch with him in it, the youtube monetization check may cover the funeral expenses and most of the damages to the buildings he blows up On Feb 18, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

Would be cool if jaime did some beatnik jazz type spoken word performance of it... that effin hippy On Feb 18, 2018 10:49 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Yep > > -Original Message- From: Bill Prince > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:31 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] How to create echo on an analog tel line

Far end echo isnt fixable sometimes, nor can you replicate it, as ive come to find out with a year plus battle on a fortivoice system with analog lines. Swapping to sip trunks is the resolution. We tried all kinds of stuff, but the sauce only goes so far. After dealing with all the audio sides of

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

Never happened..  set it up in windows, view it in linux... On 2/18/18 7:30 PM, Edward H. Winters wrote: from the amazon page for your camera. Use computer for initial setup, and then remotely view the camera using Smartphone (android & iOS: XMEye, IP Cam Viewer & Tiny Cam Pro); Email Motion

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

It works fine here. Problem free(ish). Those that want to donate can cover the costs. Pauls been very reliable, and never needs a snickers so little to no risk of an "i quit" Id say we should just have a swear jar, but i dont have that kind of money. One option would be to stick half the fund

Re: [AFMUG] Lumina management subnet

Shoot them an email and they will tell you, it breaks something else though, i dont recall what it was but ended up having to use a /29 and a failover gateway On Feb 18, 2018 5:39 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: Apparently I'm stupid or just not searching with the right

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

how do you orbit a flat earth.   roland   > I would love it if they were able to get it in orbit.On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:> No, I don't think so. I read somewhere that it wouldn't launch when they> tried.>> But wait... you're trying to tell me

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

I would love it if they were able to get it in orbit. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > No, I don't think so. I read somewhere that it wouldn't launch when they > tried. > > But wait... you're trying to tell me the Earth really isn't flat?? > > On Feb

[AFMUG] Lumina management subnet

Apparently I'm stupid or just not searching with the right terminology. What's the command to make two Lumina's communicate remote statuses when in different subnets?

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

These guys: https://www.emwd.com/mailman-hosting/ advertise they can do it for $3/month. Perhaps they can. I just don’t want to make a change I will regret. And I do not want to have to personally be the mechanic. From: Ryan Ray Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:02 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

I am hoping Paul McCall will reply with what the actual costs are. If we can host it somewhere else, have it work this well, with zero effort, at a lower cost I am all for it. From: Ryan Ray Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive I agree.

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

I agree. Toss some money at him, I'm sure we can spare it On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Yep... this always comes up. I think the consensus has always been that > it's easier for those of us who are willing, to just chip in occasionally > and keep

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

But if I stand, it looks a little more roundish. bp On 2/18/2018 12:29 PM, Bill Prince wrote: The part I'm sitting on is pretty flat. bp On 2/18/2018 12:25 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: No, I don't think so. I read somewhere that it

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

The part I'm sitting on is pretty flat. bp On 2/18/2018 12:25 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: No, I don't think so. I read somewhere that it wouldn't launch when they tried. But wait... you're trying to tell me the Earth really isn't flat?? On Feb 18, 2018 1:30 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

No, I don't think so. I read somewhere that it wouldn't launch when they tried. But wait... you're trying to tell me the Earth really isn't flat?? On Feb 18, 2018 1:30 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Did they ever get their rocket to fly to prove Earth is flat? Forget

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Yep... this always comes up. I think the consensus has always been that it's easier for those of us who are willing, to just chip in occasionally and keep it as is, then to mess with what's been working well. On Feb 18, 2018 1:36 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: > Seems like

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

I’ll host it in a VM in my datacenter. Blacklists are the recipients problem though. As long as nothing funky is going on on the server. > On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:36, Robert Andrews wrote: > > Seems like this same conversation came up last year. Folks, if you don't

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Seems like this same conversation came up last year. Folks, if you don't want to pay, propose doing the work. Seems like it's well worth 100 bucks for the enjoyment I get out of it. I pay way more than that for things way less enjoyable, but necessary to keep peace at home... On

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Then is a pledge drive needed? Blacklists are the recipients problems. Not the mailing list owners problem - as long as nothing shady is going on. > On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:15, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Those that run the list are happy to pay for not dealing with blacklists,

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

Did they ever get their rocket to fly to prove Earth is flat? Forget physics, math and science...trust your eyes Jaime Solorza On Feb 18, 2018 12:20 PM, "TJ Trout" wrote: You sound like a paranoid flat earther :) On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Robert

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

what a scary subject linei thought moviepass had died. - Original Message - From: TJ Trout To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was... You sound like a paranoid flat earther :) On Sun, Feb 18, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

When it comes to my "red" network, yeah, I'm paranoid... Two firewalls and now a forever sniffer... Stuff like Nests and others that have back doors go between the firewalls... On 02/18/2018 11:20 AM, TJ Trout wrote: You sound like a paranoid flat earther :) On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 8:12

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

You sound like a paranoid flat earther :) On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Robert wrote: > Could be phoning home, but now I've got s/w trying to phone into my DNS > servers... > > On 2/18/18 8:04 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >> You sure it is not just the camera phoning

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Those that run the list are happy to pay for not dealing with blacklists, etc. whatever SES provides. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hoppes"

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

What is SES? Amazon? That seems overkill for a mailing list. > On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:09, Mike Hammett wrote: > > SES > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Matt Hoppes"

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

SES - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hoppes" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:05:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

100 less than it was On 02/18/2018 09:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive. Please clean out your couch cushions and paypal the revenue created to pa...@pdmnet.net Paul,

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Support of what??? What the heck costs that much? Mailman takes all of 10 minutes to install and just lives after that. > On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:52, Ryan Ray wrote: > > > Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year including > support, $1800 not

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year including support, $1800 not including support. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Can it really be more than $5 > > How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

SES - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hoppes" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:41:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Can it really be more than $5 How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list take when virtualized? > On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:20, Keefe John wrote: > > Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate this list? > >> On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST,

Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive

Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate this list? On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown wrote: >I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the >not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive. > >Please clean out your

[AFMUG] Pledge drive

I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive. Please clean out your couch cushions and paypal the revenue created to pa...@pdmnet.net Paul, what is the current status of our deficit?

Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

Yep -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck Didn't we (Chuck?) reverse-acronym AFMUG to be Advanced Fiber and Microwave Users Group? bp On 2/18/2018 7:31 AM, Jay

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was..

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HTYW2Q4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8=1 On 2/18/18 8:23 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: It would be more useful to know what brand and source you bought from. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018, 10:12 AM Robert >

[AFMUG] Genset. Maybe a good deal, maybe not

https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIA08C6V29837?utm_medium=Email_source=MP021818_mmc=EMC-MP021818-_-EMC-021818-Index-_-index-_-9SIA08C6V29837

Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

Didn't we (Chuck?) reverse-acronym AFMUG to be Advanced Fiber and Microwave Users Group? bp On 2/18/2018 7:31 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: What poem was that? I think I remember some kind of poem that was put needle point and framed and given to someone. Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was..

It would be more useful to know what brand and source you bought from. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018, 10:12 AM Robert wrote: > Could be phoning home, but now I've got s/w trying to phone into my DNS > servers... > > On 2/18/18 8:04 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > You sure it is not

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

Could be phoning home, but now I've got s/w trying to phone into my DNS servers... On 2/18/18 8:04 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: You sure it is not just the camera phoning home for a software update? -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 8:43 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

You sure it is not just the camera phoning home for a software update? -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 8:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was... Frick'n peoples republic. So I bought a couple of those $300 PTZ cameras.

Re: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

Resistance is futile. -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 8:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] To good to be true... it was... Frick'n peoples republic. So I bought a couple of those $300 PTZ cameras. & my monitoring system saw some attempts to

[AFMUG] To good to be true... it was...

Frick'n peoples republic. So I bought a couple of those $300 PTZ cameras. & my monitoring system saw some attempts to intrude from inside my network. So I am now on the alert and when the cameras start up I see some traffic when there shouldn't be. It's the cameras reaching out from

Re: [AFMUG] Lake level monitoring

They turn off the stations in the Winter. They will probably be getting them running here soon if this lack of Winter keeps up. " The stations employ float driven digital shaft encoders to measure the depth of the water flowing through a calibrated weir. "

Re: [AFMUG] Lake level monitoring

I think that is my favorite idea. Adam Moffett wrote: Mark feet and inches on a pier and point a camera at it. :) -- Original Message -- From: "Jaime Solorza" > To: "Animal Farm" > Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Lake level monitoring

We provide service to the local canal company to measure both levels and flow. They have a hole dug out the side with a float in it, and a sensor measures the flow as it pushes by. It runs to a device in a small box on a utility pole, and everything runs on a car battery and small solar panel.

Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

What poem was that? I think I remember some kind of poem that was put needle point and framed and given to someone. Chuck McCown wrote: Well, your poetry was read at one AnimalFarm... you are a bit of a celebrity. *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Friday, February 16, 2018 8:07 PM *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] PTP820C radios not booting up - ideas?

For initial installs, I typically have exactly the opposite experience. Probably because when I actually do the system design it isn't a problem since I use trusted power supplies which I carefully oversize. This creates a bit of a blind spot for me. Because I only got involved in this case