Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Jeremy
I use a drill doctor also, but with the ability to do a split point. I have found the split point to help immensely in getting the bit started. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > I was doing some cable work on the second story of our local bank and had > to drill some holes th

Re: [AFMUG] powering a Mimosa B5 integrated with GigE-APC-POE

2015-06-03 Thread Stefan Englhardt
We start using the netonix miniswitches. We power them with the mimosa brick and power mimosa/epmp/mikrotik with the switch. Working fine so far. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Sean Heskett Datum: 04.06.2015 05:22 (GMT+01:00) An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] power

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Edward Brooks
How does it go on without nicking that thin foil? Is there a tool for the Cat5? I looked at the Commscope installation guide and it said smooth copper coax (Heliax) or braided.-EdSent from my slightly heavy military grade SmartphoneJaime Solorza wrote:We  use those on super flex but not on heliax.

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like Elon Musk is getting into the game

2015-06-03 Thread Sean Heskett
http://www.slashdot.org/story/294967 On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Rory Conaway wrote: > > https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=66082&license_seq=66693 > > > > *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* > > *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040* > >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP sync differences CMM3 vs CMM4.

2015-06-03 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Forrest, What’s the down size of making the change for you? Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 3:22 PM To

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Jay Weekley
I was doing some cable work on the second story of our local bank and had to drill some holes through the floor and rented a rotary hammer for the job. I forgot to tell the folks in neighboring offices that I was about to set that thing off for the first hole. Some poor lady showed up in the do

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like Elon Musk is getting into the game

2015-06-03 Thread Sean Heskett
Looks like it's for their satellite internet service. Personally I think they are just trying to create their own demand for their launch systems (space X) since all the commercial and DOD launches are already spoken for by Lockheed and Boeing. If the Internet thing works then they have another i

[AFMUG] Looks like Elon Musk is getting into the game

2015-06-03 Thread Rory Conaway
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/442_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=66082&license_seq=66693 Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Rotary hammers, fucking beasts. We were talking about our tapered bits. We have tons with one dull ring. 46 bucks for 20 holes adds up. On Jun 3, 2015 10:00 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > I must have never used a rotary hammer then, hammer drills seem to work > just fine for stone, masonry, etc. >

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Nsa, this stupid fucking update my bastard cock phone took is about to get it shoved up somebody's ass. On Jun 3, 2015 10:11 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > I was wondering why the new needs such a large archive facility, now I > know, there's a ish drive for each of us. > On Jun 3, 2015 9:

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I was wondering why the new needs such a large archive facility, now I know, there's a ish drive for each of us. On Jun 3, 2015 9:44 PM, "Chuck Hogg" wrote: > When we did consulting for the ATF, the courts required that the recording > devices be single dedicated hard drives. I was shocked to w

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP tx power bug continues

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Luthman
For ptp I want max power and then I'll turn it down later. I don't remember the rules when I'm on the tower. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 3, 2015 11:05 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > ohhh... I know I've seen that bug before,

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP tx power bug continues

2015-06-03 Thread Mathew Howard
ohhh... I know I've seen that bug before, but I don't remember exactly what caused it... I generally don't try setting the power that high in 5.1. It used to work right... but that was probably in like 2.3 or so. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > In 5.1 you can enter 21 to 2

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Jason McKemie
I must have never used a rotary hammer then, hammer drills seem to work just fine for stone, masonry, etc. On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Rotary hammer very different beast than hammer drill which is only good > for stuff like tapcons. > > *From:* Jason McKemie > > *Sent:* W

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Chuck Hogg
When we did consulting for the ATF, the courts required that the recording devices be single dedicated hard drives. I was shocked to walk into the server room and see 40+ USB drives plugged into a nice Dell Server. The chain of custody had to remain on the single drive for some reason. They laug

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Luthman
There's a business down the hall that does 100s of gigs a month and he has several terabytes of storage. He's a video "guru". A lot of his projects are videos for memorials/funerals. High quality repeating hour long videos take a lot of disk space. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Tyler Treat
Somebody get that man a NAS! On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Rory Conaway mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote: He does photos and presentations. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subje

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
We had two 50 port systems for iPads and other devices we used at district to upgrade or commission. Jaime Solorza On Jun 3, 2015 7:52 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > Most I’ve ever seen and he is adding more. > > > > > > *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* > > *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Tyler Treat
That's the only think I could think of. On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Keefe John mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>> wrote: that's a lot of porno On 6/3/2015 9:05 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: +1 But why...? ??(1/2)Failing to compute what I just saw. ??(1/2) On Jun 3, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Darin Steffl mail

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Rory Conaway
He does photos and presentations. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 7:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer +1 But why...? �Failing to compute what I just saw. � On Jun 3, 2015, at 8:55 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Porn. Obviously! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 3, 2015 10:08 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > wtf? why? > > Josh Reynolds > CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com > > On 06/03/2015 05:52 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > > Most I�ve eve

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP tx power bug continues

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Luthman
In 5.1 you can enter 21 to 26 but it complains when you try to save. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 3, 2015 9:55 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > It'll never let you go above 20dbm in 5.1... or possibly 18, I'm not > actually sur

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
wtf? why? Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 06/03/2015 05:52 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: Most I�ve ever seen and he is adding more. *Rory Conaway **� Triad Wireless �**CEO* *4226 S. 37^th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040* *602-426-0542* *r...@triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Keefe John
that's a lot of porno On 6/3/2015 9:05 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: +1 But why...? �Failing to compute what I just saw. � On Jun 3, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Darin Steffl > wrote: I was expecting to see 18 USB flash drives but was amazed he actually has 18 USB hard

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Adam Moffett
+1 But why...? Failing to compute what I just saw. On Jun 3, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Darin Steffl > wrote: I was expecting to see 18 USB flash drives but was amazed he actually has 18 USB hard drives instead! On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Tyler Treat
But why...? Failing to compute what I just saw. On Jun 3, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Darin Steffl mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote: I was expecting to see 18 USB flash drives but was amazed he actually has 18 USB hard drives instead! On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Rory Conaway mailto:r...@tr

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-03 Thread Darin Steffl
I was expecting to see 18 USB flash drives but was amazed he actually has 18 USB hard drives instead! On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Most I’ve ever seen and he is adding more. > > > > > > *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* > > *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP tx power bug continues

2015-06-03 Thread Mathew Howard
It'll never let you go above 20dbm in 5.1... or possibly 18, I'm not actually sure - it tells you the max is 18, but it at least used to let me set it as high as 20, depending on the antenna. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread George Skorup
Yes On 6/3/2015 8:16 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: Replacing UBNT with what? 450? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2015, at 8:08 PM, George Skorup > wrote: I don't buy the LTE NLOS pitch. It's too goddamn expensive to get good performance (3 or 4 4x4 sectors instead of a du

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP tx power bug continues

2015-06-03 Thread Mathew Howard
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > In 5.7 maybe, not 5.1 > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Jun 3, 2015 4:18 PM, "joseph marsh" wrote: > >> We don't have a issue with ours yet we just got our stuff

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread Mathew Howard
You can still add new 3.65 AP locations from any of the currently available manufacturers, as long as you already have a 3.65 license. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Interesting. I agree with the dream of having someone re-write the > firmware to interface 320 stuff with

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
We use those on super flex but not on heliax...use the other old school version Jaime Solorza So, something like this then? https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=445755 On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: > Simpl

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Rotary hammer very different beast than hammer drill which is only good for stuff like tapcons. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 8:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits Yeah, never use anything but a hammer drill on stone/concrete/etc. On Wednesda

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc
Bingo! That's what you need Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Steve Utick wrote: > > So, something like this then? > https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=445755 > > > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc >> wrote: >>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP tx power bug continues

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Luthman
In 5.7 maybe, not 5.1 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 3, 2015 4:18 PM, "joseph marsh" wrote: > We don't have a issue with ours yet we just got our stuff in a few days > ago I believe mine is 26dBm > On Jun 3, 2015 2:42 PM, "Jo

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread Jon Langeler
Replacing UBNT with what? 450? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2015, at 8:08 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > I don't buy the LTE NLOS pitch. It's too goddamn expensive to get good > performance (3 or 4 4x4 sectors instead of a dual omni or split 2x2 sectors) > to put 30, 40 or even 50 customers

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP tx power bug continues

2015-06-03 Thread Mathew Howard
I've seen it happen - it's annoying, but I haven't had it happen in awhile... I may have just gotten used to setting the power to what it allows. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:18 PM, joseph marsh wrote: > We don't have a issue with ours yet we just got our stuff in a few days > ago I believe mine is

Re: [AFMUG] powering a Mimosa B5 integrated with GigE-APC-POE

2015-06-03 Thread Mathew Howard
I've done it too... works perfectly, I don't remember the pinout off hand, but just follow what's printed on the Mimosa PoE. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:05 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > yep. pinout is on the poe brick > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > >> Has anyone tried to power

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Jason McKemie
Yeah, never use anything but a hammer drill on stone/concrete/etc. On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Josh Reynolds wrote: > What you want for the concrete is a rotary hammer. A little spendy and > the bit cost is astronomical, but they will bite through granite like it's > nothing in seconds. We use

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Steve Utick
So, something like this then? https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=445755 On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: > Simple: buy cat 5 grounding kits for > Shielded cable. Use them at top, middle and bottom. No more

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
What you want for the concrete is a rotary hammer. A little spendy and the bit cost is astronomical, but they will bite through granite like it's nothing in seconds. We use rotary hammers for rohn wall mount kits going into brick, concrete, and stone. Have only tried the corded hitachi's, altho

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Reynolds
It's funny to find this discussion on the list today, we have been talking about our drill doctor since this morning. We use a lot of 5/8"x18" Irwin installer bits. We like them because they are reasonably priced, long enough to get through most of the log cabins here, and come with a 90deg an

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc
Simple: buy cat 5 grounding kits for Shielded cable. Use them at top, middle and bottom. No more no less. Doesn't involve cutting cable just connect into shield and water proof like hell. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I would NOT put Cat5 surge pro

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
Nope Jaime Solorza On Jun 3, 2015 6:17 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Then you're not following the single-point/everything connected principle. > > On 6/3/2015 7:09 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > I run the ground wire directly to dedicated ground rod. We DO Not tie in > to ring or grid. This is

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread George Skorup
Then you're not following the single-point/everything connected principle. On 6/3/2015 7:09 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: I run the ground wire directly to dedicated ground rod. We DO Not tie in to ring or grid. This is a straight shot... Jaime Solorza On Jun 3, 2015 5:15 PM, "Edward Brooks"

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Rory Conaway
I bought a drill doctor and even though the bits looked good, they didn't work as well. We do mostly wood but installers are sometimes too lazy to change the bit when they get to the stucco and that dulls them faster. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
I run the ground wire directly to dedicated ground rod. We DO Not tie in to ring or grid. This is a straight shot... Jaime Solorza On Jun 3, 2015 5:15 PM, "Edward Brooks" wrote: > So, to clarify things. These are Cyclone 2450-VS APs set to 120deg. > That said, the idea with the ground wires

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread George Skorup
I don't buy the LTE NLOS pitch. It's too goddamn expensive to get good performance (3 or 4 4x4 sectors instead of a dual omni or split 2x2 sectors) to put 30, 40 or even 50 customers on a site which is all we have in rural areas. We'll never make any money buying Telrad. I can put up 4 sectors

Re: [AFMUG] rack mount UPS.

2015-06-03 Thread George Skorup
I've tested RB750GL's directly on the AD-155B which I have set to float the batteries at 27.6V. The 750GL seems to handle this fine. 493AH boards will NOT take over 26.5-ish volts. Not sure about the 493G's. I really doubt the 1100 models will handle >27 volts. The RSD is a DC-DC converter and

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-03 Thread George Skorup
I asked Forrest about a UGPS-like pipe. If it's going to cost as much as a UGPS because of the power circuit, then forget it, just buy a UGPS. I would much rather have a parasitic sync-over-power pipe right now for those ePMP micro sites and 110PTP backhauls. PoE/ethernet in, PoE/ethernet/sync

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP sync differences CMM3 vs CMM4.

2015-06-03 Thread George Skorup
I wonder if this affects the 450 at all. I have a site with funky GPS problems from time to time. Two 5GHz 450 sectors back to back on the same freq. Each have their own Parasitic pipe. Sometimes one will lose sync on the timing port and switch to on-board. The other is still happily running on

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Edward Brooks
So, to clarify things. These are Cyclone 2450-VS APs set to 120deg. That said, the idea with the ground wires for the omni may not work. A surge arrestor at the top and bottom (not part way up). Try not to be the tallest thing on the tower. Aerial at top with dedicated ground wire to ground rod t

Re: [AFMUG] Square mutli-sector mount

2015-06-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
No, they fab and galvanize everything in Florida. They have made slightly customized sidearms for me in the past. Most tower steel parts are knockoffs of some Andrew or Rohn part, so yes if you use a Commscope/Andrew part you can likely find an equivalent from CI Wireless, just like Nello and

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Edward Brooks
I saw that at the NATE Unite show this year. BIG! On 6/3/2015 4:57 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: At IWCE there was someone settling an $8000 vandegraph generator looking thing that said they had never had a hit on a protected tower. On Jun 3, 2015 5:54 PM, "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Jaime Solorza
Old Franklin system is still the best according to science and my experience if that means anything. Aerial at top. Good copper cable to grounding rod buried 8 to 10 ft. Has worked well for us. The aerials are the highest point. We are in the desert and winds cause lots of static build up. O

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Lewis Bergman
At IWCE there was someone settling an $8000 vandegraph generator looking thing that said they had never had a hit on a protected tower. On Jun 3, 2015 5:54 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I have used them. I believe the theories. But I think you would have > to talk to broadcasters to get a good

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Chuck McCown
I have used them. I believe the theories. But I think you would have to talk to broadcasters to get a good opinion. They don’t seem to be as popular as they once were. From: Edward Brooks Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning

Re: [AFMUG] Square mutli-sector mount

2015-06-03 Thread Peter Kranz
Isn’t Connect-It just reselling the commscope part? Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Lewis Bergman
I think I have one left you could get pretty cheap. I haven't noticed them preventing anything. On Jun 3, 2015 5:51 PM, "Edward Brooks" wrote: > Thanks Ken, > Has anyone had any experience with dissipators? Are they worth the > money and labor? > > -Ed > -- > Edward Brooks > > *Outside Pl

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
Same here. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits That is how I do them. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-03 Thread Matt
How about a sync pipe that uses UGPS Power so it only needs to plug into the timing port? > Get answers to your questions on Synchronization from expert Forrest > Christian. Post your questions and comments now, and Forrest and the Cambium > team will answer them, or join us live today between 1

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Chuck McCown
That is how I do them. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits *doing it with a bench grinder. I was at a machine shop where they were doing it with a ben You can do it by hand with a bit of practice. �

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Edward Brooks
Thanks Ken, Has anyone had any experience with dissipators? Are they worth the money and labor? -Ed -- Edward Brooks /Outside Plant Manager The Montana Internet Corporation/ 406-443-3347 X506 On 6/3/2015 4:35 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I would NOT put Cat5 surge protectors every 50-75 feet,

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Adam Moffett
I was at a machine shop where they were doing it with a ben You can do it by hand with a bit of practice. *From:* Glen Waldrop *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits My dad has

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Adam Moffett
*doing it with a ben*ch grinder*. I was at a machine shop where they were doing it with a ben You can do it by hand with a bit of practice. � *From:* Glen Waldrop *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Sean Heskett
We sharpen them again and again until they won't hold an edge anymore On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Rory Conaway wrote: > We are paying $15-$25 for longer drill bits. When they start to get > dull, just wondering if anyone has had success sharpening them or do you > just buy new ones? > > > > *R

Re: [AFMUG] Square mutli-sector mount

2015-06-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
If that’s really what you want, I’d call Connect-It and ask for a quote on a custom version of this: http://www.ciwireless.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Product-Specifications-TP3.pdf From: Peter Kranz Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Square mutli-secto

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
Not really. We use a smaller gauge copper for the omni. The cheapo ground rod is about a foot away from everything else. It was my first tower. Given what I know now I would do things quite differently, but the copper on the omni and the ground rod seemed to have worked. There were dozens of

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Lewis Bergman
Do you notice any change in pattern of the antenna? That really should influence the pattern I would think. Maybe Chuck will chime in. On Jun 3, 2015 5:33 PM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > On my first tower we ran a 10ft section of conduit at the top as > lightning rod with a number 4 or 6 copper wire

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
I would NOT put Cat5 surge protectors every 50-75 feet, you will likely get Ethernet errors and/or negotiation problems. At most there should be one at each end. You are probably thinking of coax, and even so I suspect those are shield grounds, not actual surge protectors. I do agree with not

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
On my first tower we ran a 10ft section of conduit at the top as lightning rod with a number 4 or 6 copper wire from the ground rod all the way to the top. It is the highest point on my tower. The only time lightning has been an issue here it hit a tree nearby and came in through the buried cab

Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Lewis Bergman
We always run a 2/0 ground to the router top and exothermically weld it to a bus bar and ground everything up there to the same bus bar. The thought is that after a while the connection between the sections deteriorates. I honestly have no imperial evidence to support the practice. I don't see how

[AFMUG] Square mutli-sector mount

2015-06-03 Thread Peter Kranz
Anyone seen this design in a square or rectangle format? I need a sturdy mount to fit inside this fancy copper roof area that bolts to the floor only. I don't want to touch the railings. http://www.commscope.com/catalog/wireless/product_details.aspx?id=1888

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Chuck McCown
You can do it by hand with a bit of practice. From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits My dad has always sharpened his own, so I tend to do the same. In my experience, if used in wood they can be sharpened with little

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
My dad has always sharpened his own, so I tend to do the same. In my experience, if used in wood they can be sharpened with little issue. If you drill through metal, buy a new one. It loses some of the hardness on the edge. It really needs to be tempered again after sharpening. - Origin

[AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-03 Thread Edward Brooks
Here goes... We have a new 118' Super Titan Max tower that has been grounded per manufacturers recommendations. Each leg is physically bonded (not exothermically) to a 10' ground rod, all ground rods are then connected to each other in a ring. The equipment cabinet is bonded to an 8' gr

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Bill Prince
Both. I do have a drill doctor, and it works pretty well. bp On 6/3/2015 3:18 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: We are paying $15-$25 for longer drill bits. When they start to get dull, just wondering if anyone has had success sharpening them or do you just buy new ones? *Rory Conaway **� Triad

[AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-03 Thread Rory Conaway
We are paying $15-$25 for longer drill bits. When they start to get dull, just wondering if anyone has had success sharpening them or do you just buy new ones? Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread Paul Stewart
At my old job they were keeping them for as long as possible - way too much invested in that platform to walk away . 450's on new sites as they were being built . From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AF

Re: [AFMUG] customers and roofers (rant)

2015-06-03 Thread Glen Waldrop
lol We've had decent luck here as well, but it's only been two or three times. I have had the home owner "line up" the antenna more than once though, since I obviously had it pointing the wrong way... Routerboard inside a Rootenna. Good luck lining that up without the GUI. - Original Me

Re: [AFMUG] customers and roofers (rant)

2015-06-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
roofers around here, for whatever reason are masters at blind pointing our gear. I guess its all the corn guns and bibles that bring us the good luck. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > It seems like using Roofing nails for Jlegs and tripods are what's taught > at roofing school

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Ive said that forever, there should be a "lite license" basically, you can use whatever gear you want wherever you want to use it. but if an operator moves into the area that uses a standardized colocation/sync (fcc approved, blech) they can force you off the band. That way podunk dead areas dont h

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread Bill Prince
With the near-universal grousing about the lack of spectrum, why aren't there any initiatives toward find more/better ways to share spectrum? AKA if we could only get along... bp On 6/3/2015 2:37 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Interesting. I agree with the dream of having someone re-write the f

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread Paul McCall
But, if you are using 320 for NLOS solutions, the 450 trade up means you’re going to lose customers since the 450 doesn’t do nearly as good a job as the 320 Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [A

Re: [AFMUG] customers and roofers (rant)

2015-06-03 Thread Nate Burke
It seems like using Roofing nails for Jlegs and tripods are what's taught at roofing school. From a textbook I'm sure roofers use: "Has the antenna fallen off the roof before your truck leaves the property? If not, then it was installed properly. If it falls off after this point, then it is

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread Paul McCall
Interesting. I agree with the dream of having someone re-write the firmware to interface 320 stuff with the FCC database. Probably just a dream though. On the 450, you mention being able to sync with customers down the road. The way I understand it, there is no standard being proposed that wo

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Don’t they have another WiMAX-to-450 tradeup going on? Kind of a 3650 MHz cash-for-clunkers program. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using Im stuck with it. We bought an overstock load of APs and SMs.

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread Eric Muehleisen
We still use it. Tons of it. However, we are not doing any new builds or installing any new customers. Purely maintenance mode at this point. Hoping something better comes along that we can migrate to. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:08 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Im

Re: [AFMUG] customers and roofers (rant)

2015-06-03 Thread Mike Hammett
It could be a warranty thing... but likely not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 4:23:58 PM

[AFMUG] customers and roofers (rant)

2015-06-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Why do customers say things like "if your guy is going to mount anything to my roof, then my roofing guy will have to be here to supervise", yet they feel fine having roofers take down our equipment and cables and remount them without telling us? And then act like we're saying stupid stuff when

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Im stuck with it. We bought an overstock load of APs and SMs. We have a dream of Telrad working out to save the day with their firmware load. Some creative Telrad AP deployments gradually replacing the 320 APs, utilizing the 320 CPEs until we migrate the site to LTE with telrad CPEs, giving us 320

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mill machine

2015-06-03 Thread Paul McCall
That's nice of you Chuck! -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 11:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mill machine Send them on over, we can probably knock them out. -Original Message- From

Re: [AFMUG] rack mount UPS.

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Luthman
PacketFlux SiteMonitor. [image: Inline image 1] Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Keefe John wrote: > Does anyone make something to monitor this setup? > > On 6/3/2015 3:24 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] rack mount UPS.

2015-06-03 Thread joseph marsh
Kick ass I'm gonna explore this more On Jun 3, 2015 3:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > If you zoom in closely you'll see the sticker on the batteries =) > > use code SLABATT10 > Genesis NP12-12 > http://www.jmacsupply.com/EnerSys_NP12_12T_p/enersys-np12-12t.htm > > Last time I did the math it was 8

Re: [AFMUG] rack mount UPS.

2015-06-03 Thread Keefe John
Does anyone make something to monitor this setup? On 6/3/2015 3:24 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: RSD B24 is a DC to DC power supply. The output is 24Volt, the input accepts a wider range (but nominally 24 Volt). The AD155B will output the float voltage of the batteries when AC is on (26V or so), a

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP sync differences CMM3 vs CMM4.

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes that would probably make sense to do then. I'm more ePMP and couldn't care less about Canopy. Anything that's needed to make ePMP improvements I would certainly suggest. I'd rather avoid a sync source and ePMP GPS conflict. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

Re: [AFMUG] rack mount UPS.

2015-06-03 Thread Josh Luthman
If you zoom in closely you'll see the sticker on the batteries =) use code SLABATT10 Genesis NP12-12 http://www.jmacsupply.com/EnerSys_NP12_12T_p/enersys-np12-12t.htm Last time I did the math it was 8 hours of runtime for these $100 batteries on a full Ubnt tower. Even if it's halved with ePMP y

[AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-03 Thread Paul McCall
I am just curious how many of you have decided to keep using the 320 series because it goes through trees a lot better than the 450 series 3.65 product? Are you expanding with it as far as towers go? Or, are you just adding SMs to what you already have? Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florid

Re: [AFMUG] rack mount UPS.

2015-06-03 Thread joseph marsh
Thanks. Who's a good supplier to buy from On Jun 3, 2015 3:22 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Genesis batteries. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:21 PM, joseph marsh > wrote: > >> Is them alarm

Re: [AFMUG] rack mount UPS.

2015-06-03 Thread Adam Moffett
RSD B24 is a DC to DC power supply. The output is 24Volt, the input accepts a wider range (but nominally 24 Volt). The AD155B will output the float voltage of the batteries when AC is on (26V or so), and output battery voltage when AC is off, which will start around 24V when they're full char

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